HessStation Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Weird that Carr's basically looking like the safest pick at this point. I don't think the best pick, but the safest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The record on "safe" picks, in any sport, doesn't seem to be outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 When I read that Buffalo drafted EJ Manuel because his over 10" hands were so large, I thought they were crazy. Reading more, it seems that NFL teams have been paying more and more attention to hand size for years. I think Tyler Bray was cut almost as soon as they saw the size of his hands. So we might be seeing the norm with these hand size comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Seriously can't believe all the hate this kid is getting, especially from people on this forum. Are you guys seriously hating on this kid cause he had a sh*t combine and had crappy workouts? Ever heard of a guy named Brady, Brees? Or what about the combine master Jamarcus Russell? Bridgewater is honestly the smartest qb in this draft and he's a hell of a competitor. This is a guy who people who viewed as the best qb when playing. The teams that pass on him are going to regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Seriously can't believe all the hate this kid is getting, especially from people on this forum. Are you guys seriously hating on this kid cause he had a sh*t combine and had crappy workouts? Ever heard of a guy named Brady, Brees? Or what about the combine master Jamarcus Russell? Bridgewater is honestly the smartest qb in this draft and he's a hell of a competitor. This is a guy who people who viewed as the best qb when playing. The teams that pass on him are going to regret it. He's my favorite too. Garoppolo second (of course). Manziel the wildcard (i really dunno). Everyone else I don't like besides Murray in the later rounds if still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Seriously can't believe all the hate this kid is getting, especially from people on this forum. Are you guys seriously hating on this kid cause he had a sh*t combine and had crappy workouts? Ever heard of a guy named Brady, Brees? Or what about the combine master Jamarcus Russell? Bridgewater is honestly the smartest qb in this draft and he's a hell of a competitor. This is a guy who people who viewed as the best qb when playing. The teams that pass on him are going to regret it. not hate just not love Weaknesses: Good, but not great, skill set Is prone to throwing the ball late Should improve ball placement Inconsistent accuracy Should improve footwork Slight frame Can he maintain weight? Decent, but not a powerful, arm Balls can flutter downfield Takes sacks Not a dual-threat Player Comparison: Sam Bradford brees and brady, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 not hate just not love Weaknesses: Good, but not great, skill set Is prone to throwing the ball late Should improve ball placement Inconsistent accuracy Should improve footwork Slight frame Can he maintain weight? Decent, but not a powerful, arm Balls can flutter downfield Takes sacks Not a dual-threat Player Comparison: Sam Bradford brees and brady, lol</p> Brady doesn't have a great deep ball either. He was a twig at the combine Doesn't have a cannon Everything else can be fixed What's your point? Edit::: dual threat? He has to run now? Why because he's black? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Brady doesn't have a great deep ball either. He was a twig at the combine Doesn't have a cannon Everything else can be fixed What's your point? Edit::: dual threat? He has to run now? Why because he's black? Lol the point is he is hardly some once in every 10 years prospect. his game does not translate well to the NFL in my opinion. they compared him to sam bradford, I don't think race is an issue here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 hes my favorite in the draft. the way he dissected florida in the sugar bowl 2 seasons ago really cemented it for me. florida probably had the best defense in the country that year and teddy shredded them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 not hate just not love Weaknesses: Good, but not great, skill set Is prone to throwing the ball late Should improve ball placement Inconsistent accuracy Should improve footwork Slight frame Can he maintain weight? Decent, but not a powerful, arm Balls can flutter downfield Takes sacks Not a dual-threat Player Comparison: Sam Bradford brees and brady, lol Inconsistent accuracy and ball placement is just lies. The perceived deep ball issues are largely the product of Louisville using short to deep progression reads and aren't really a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 the point is he is hardly some once in every 10 years prospect. his game does not translate well to the NFL in my opinion. they compared him to sam bradford, I don't think race is an issue here And who is? Where are we going to get this guy? You think it's Winston or Mariota? Hardly, both of them are right now no where near the complete qb Bridgewater is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 not hate just not love Weaknesses: Good, but not great, skill set Is prone to throwing the ball late Should improve ball placement Inconsistent accuracy Should improve footwork Slight frame Can he maintain weight? Decent, but not a powerful, arm Balls can flutter downfield Takes sacks Not a dual-threat Player Comparison: Sam Bradford brees and brady, lol How is that a bad comparison. Bradford was viewed as a once in a generation prospect when he was coming out. And some of those points are ridiculous. Improve footwork? He has probably the best footwork out of any qb in this draft. Do you guys even watch him play? Also, those points about his arm, once again Brees and Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Inconsistent accuracy and ball placement is just lies. The perceived deep ball issues are largely the product of Louisville using short to deep progression reads and aren't really a concern. not my scouting report. walters. there are other issues you left out. big issues And who is? Where are we going to get this guy? You think it's Winston or Mariota? Hardly, both of them are right now no where near the complete qb Bridgewater is. what you have to look at with college QB's is the specific skill set to compete in the NFL. I don't think bridgewaters skills translate. that's not hate. just like my opinion man luck. dunno. no and no. irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 How is that a bad comparison. Bradford was viewed as a once in a generation prospect when he was coming out. And some of those points are ridiculous. Improve footwork? He has probably the best footwork out of any qb in this draft. Do you guys even watch him play? Also, those points about his arm, once again Brees and Brady. didn't say it was. no. your opinion. yes. probably. yes. pennington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 what you have to look at with college QB's is the specific skill set to compete in the NFL. I don't think bridgewaters skills translate. that's not hate. just like my opinion man It's not even an opinion. It's just words. What is it about the ability to put the ball where it's supposed to go when it's supposed to be there is subject to getting lost in translation? It's not like he was being asked to do different things in college than he's going to have to do in the pros like he played in some goofy offense or something. You just didn't pick a very good scouting report to adopt. That site is kind of terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 This is why we shouldnt even be thinking of a QB in the first round or even second. Solution below: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Stu loves his local talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 This is why we shouldnt even be thinking of a QB in the first round or even second. Solution below: He won't be on the team very much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 He won't be on the team very much longer. foolish move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 ok so looking at the draft this morning... to answer the question where is Teddy's stock now and how far could Teddy fall There are 4 teams out of the top 5 with dire QB need: HOU, JAC, CLE, OAK. there's also MIN at 8, TEN at 11 and STL at the 13 who seriously could use upgrades. that means in the 16 teams prior to the Jets (STL picks twice), 7 have serious QB needs. there aren't 7 first round QBs thus supply as usual, cannot meet that demand. Worst case how does STL pass on Teddy. for who? Eric Ebron? Aaron Donald or Darqueze Dennard? Teddy has been nitpicked but is probably the most advanced (pro ready) passer of the top QBs. Not to say he's more magical than Johnny or more upside than Bortles, just most day 1 ready based on performance in that system. It's possible all this Teddy falling business is a ruse and he goes top 3. If he's falling out of the top 5 its because of Robinson, Clowney and Mack being awesome prospects and teams forgetting about their terrible franchise killing QB need. Don't see Teddy taking a Geno-like fall to rd 2. the reason being his game film and bowl game performance. It's easy to be scared of Geno who is coming from an Air Raid offense and ridiculously streaky. Teddy has a better resume, despite his bad pro day. and by the way if all of the above is false and the Jets do have a shot at Teddy at 18... why not? It's a value pick and the Jets QB situation is still turrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 It's not even an opinion. It's just words. What is it about the ability to put the ball where it's supposed to go when it's supposed to be there is subject to getting lost in translation? It's not like he was being asked to do different things in college than he's going to have to do in the pros like he played in some goofy offense or something. You just didn't pick a very good scouting report to adopt. That site is kind of terrible. Who are you? You're a rather informed fellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Pre draft hype has to be taken with a grain of salt. Too much misdirection by teams coupled with the worst media in the history of the world and you have an over abundance of bullsh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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