#90 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Why not? He is Logan Mankins jr. Solid as a rock.. And, a Pro Bowl Guard for the next ten years. Draft him! *please dont start with you cant draft a guard in the 1st round nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Is be happy if they drafted him. Playmakers are useless when your QB is on his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Never been big on first round guards but if Johnny Frugal decides hes the BPA at 18 I'm on board. Chris Johnson will be a disappointment in the running game without an upper echelon, run blocking, line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSage Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Interesting thought but why are guards not considered in the early to mid 1st round??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 It's not nonsense, you avoid guards in the first round. They go early in weak drafts, but this isn't a weak draft. The Jets have serious needs at high value positions like WR and CB, and it looks like there will be prospects who fit those needs available at #18. They'll go for the value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 It's not nonsense, you avoid guards in the first round. They go early in weak drafts, but this isn't a weak draft. The Jets have serious needs at high value positions like WR and CB, and it looks like there will be prospects who fit those needs available at #18. They'll go for the value. He can play tackle too. His versatility is what makes him valuable. If we're staring at a choice between him and the 5th best WR and 4th best corner, he's probably BPA. And he's an instant starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 He can play tackle too. His versatility is what makes him valuable. If we're staring at a choice between him and the 5th best WR and 4th best corner, he's probably BPA. And he's an instant starter. Beckham, Cooks, or Dennard would all be a better value and fill a huge need. One -if not all- of them will be there at #18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Beckham, Cooks, or Dennard would all be a better value and fill a huge need. One -if not all- of them will be there at #18. The thing with Martin is nobody really knows what position he's going to play in the NFL. In theory he comes in and creates competition for both guard spots right away and eventually replaces one of the tackles, but in reality he's nothing special at one of those positions and a total projection at the rest of them. I can see the worst case scenario coming down to Martin but that's basically what it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I would like the martin pick at 18. Colon and winters are hardly solid options at this point. I agree it would have to mean a big run on WR and CB ahead of the jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Wouldn't want to Idzik on draft in NY if he goes OL in first round, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Yankey of Stanford in the second round maybe- first round Best either WR or CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 There are flashier names that could be taken but I'll tell you this, I prefer they take Martin than a TE in the 1st rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Wouldn't want to Idzik on draft in NY if he goes OL in first round, Why? What are they going to do? Come on message boards and bitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Jet fans at Draft Central will explode. Why? What are they going to do? Come on message boards and bitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 BPA - how do you decide BPA between a WR / OL/ ILB/ CB? Theoretically need is not suppose to be an issue. Do you pick a WR as BPA when the draft is deep on WRs? BPA doesn't mean best athlete available. I really feel the Jets go LBer or Martin - Martin would solidify that unit for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Jet fans at Draft Central will explode. Who cares - that's what ESPN wants anyway. It's time to build a team foundation and if there is a solid "can't miss" LBer / OL present - you go for it. If a LBer or Martin is present I will be surprised if the Jets go WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Why? What are they going to do? Come on message boards and bitch? Like that actually happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Jet fans at Draft Central will explode. LOL Won't be the first time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Like that actually happens Oh, sure T0m, now that your a radio superstar your going to forget where you came from, and look down on the little people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Like that actually happens After 10 years at jetnation we have the bitch meter finally this year in the moderator room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Beckham, Cooks, or Dennard would all be a better value and fill a huge need. One -if not all- of them will be there at #18. Tell me the offensive line isn't a need. None of those players are better value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Tell me the offensive line isn't a need. None of those players are better value. Agree - any player you draft can be perceived as a need. Martin is a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 He can play tackle too. His versatility is what makes him valuable. He can also transmogrify into a being of pure energy and transcend this plane of existence, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Should probably start assuming Beckham won't be there at 18... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Jet fans at Draft Central will explode.Big deal, alls that does is make the Jet fans look like douche bags. And do they screen the Jet fans and only let in the douche bags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 In today's game, guard has become a prime position -- not the throwaway it was in the past where you just plugged in a tackle who came up short on NFL metrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 LOL Won't be the first time I remember the loud boos when Sanchez was drafted, after we traded up to 6 to get him, kinda felt sorry for him at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I remember the loud boos when Sanchez was drafted, after we traded up to 6 to get him, kinda felt sorry for him at that point. Actually the reaction to Sheldon Richardson , the DROY, last year was worst. Jets fans will boo their brother if he's selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Actually the reaction to Sheldon Richardson , the DROY, last year was worst. Jets fans will boo their brother if he's selected. yeah I am guilty of hating that pick. but booing the kid live is low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Actually the reaction to Sheldon Richardson , the DROY, last year was worst. Jets fans will boo their brother if he's selected. Buddy Ryan. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Why is it every draft we are never in the right position for the right pick. This should be a BPA pick. As much as i hate to draft a guard in the first round if he is the BPA we should draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Why is it every draft we are never in the right position for the right pick. This should be a BPA pick. As much as i hate to draft a guard in the first round if he is the BPA we should draft him. Not sure if its possible that a guard could be BPA at 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Not sure if its possible that a guard could be BPA at 18 If it is possible then we should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 this is a draft that really is all about the wr, one may fall to us, we can't leave a wr on the board for Brady, we just can't, and Idz is an offensive guy, he wants the burner because he was a ball boy when the Jets had a guy named Wesley Walker, who by the way was drafted in '77. I saw Walker and he was the same player from game 1. Took zero time to develop, and was always world class,, we need a guy like this and might get him, if a TE is their, we might bite, if a world class lb is there and no TE or WR, you get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 He can play tackle too. His versatility is what makes him valuable. If we're staring at a choice between him and the 5th best WR and 4th best corner, he's probably BPA. And he's an instant starter. I wouldn't draft a first round OLman for his versatility. I like Martin, but if they go OL it should be Lewan. Maybe if they see a young Damien Woody in Martin, possible I guess. I don't think he's better than Jonathan Cooper as a G prospect on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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