Lizard King Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I get that argument, too, but frankly I think the opposite argument has as much if not more validity; and that would be draft to your coach's strength. If Rex can coach mediocre talent up to a respectable unit, why not give him very good talent so that he can field an elite unit? But really, it does come down to the BAP - because some clichés are true. Because if you're going to pass on excellent talent just because it's on the wrong side of the ball, you deserve what you get. "Strength" is only as good as the ability of the coach to adapt to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 You need to call in next week and give Tom a piece of your mind! Great post. It's a stupid post because Ape has no clue if Darqueze Dennard is a "better prospect" than a Brandin Cooks or any other offensive player, for that matter. You're drafting a player at 18 whom you're hoping can play. It would be better if that player scored TDs as opposed to helping the head coach pad his rushing-yards-against average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Because if you're going to pass on excellent talent just because it's on the wrong side of the ball, you deserve what you get. "Strength" is only as good as the ability of the coach to adapt to it. Tell me more about this "excellent talent" differential between the second ranked corner and the fourth ranked WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Tell me more about this "excellent talent" differential between the second ranked corner and the fourth ranked WR. You really want to argue the difference in perceived value between a premier cornerback prospect and a premier wide receiver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 You need to call in next week and give Tom a piece of your mind! Great post. What's awesome is that the show is already all about the Shane-bashing. You can hear the fear in T0m's voice every time they pick up another caller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 It's a stupid post because Ape has no clue if Darqueze Dennard is a "better prospect" than a Brandin Cooks or any other offensive player, for that matter. You're drafting a player at 18 whom you're hoping can play. It would be better if that player scored TDs as opposed to helping the head coach pad his rushing-yards-against average. I don't want to re-listen to the show to confirm this, but weren't you initially asked what you thought of CB if all 4 top WR were gone already? In which case, that would mean Cooks is already drafted. In which, case it's Dennard or Gilbert or Pryor or Dix vs. someone more like Latimer or Benjamin, not Cooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I don't want to re-listen to the show to confirm this, but weren't you initially asked what you thought of CB if all 4 top WR were gone already? In which case, that would mean Cooks is already drafted. In which, case it's Dennard or Gilbert or Pryor or Dix vs. someone more like Latimer or Benjamin, not Cooks. I don't know, actually. I don't really listen to the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 What's awesome is that the show is already all about the Shane-bashing. You can hear the fear in T0m's voice every time they pick up another caller. There is only one person I fear calling in. I got the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 You really want to argue the difference in perceived value between a premier cornerback prospect and a premier wide receiver? You don't know if any of these players are premier anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 any Jets fan who thinks the team should take a TE in rd 1 doesn't know their history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 There is only one person I fear calling in. I got the rest. It'll happen when you've stopped expecting it. And it won't come from 216. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 any Jets fan who thinks the team should take a TE in rd 1 doesn't know their history. Idzik is magic. Spell over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 It's a stupid post because Ape has no clue if Darqueze Dennard is a "better prospect" than a Brandin Cooks or any other offensive player, for that matter. You're drafting a player at 18 whom you're hoping can play. It would be better if that player scored TDs as opposed to helping the head coach pad his rushing-yards-against average. LOL, are you going to be the Joe Pine of JN radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 any Jets fan who thinks the team should take a TE in rd 1 doesn't know their history. agree, unless that TE is one of the rare TE/WR hybrids like Graham, or Ebron can be,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 It's a stupid post because Ape has no clue if Darqueze Dennard is a "better prospect" than a Brandin Cooks or any other offensive player, for that matter. You're drafting a player at 18 whom you're hoping can play. It would be better if that player scored TDs as opposed to helping the head coach pad his rushing-yards-against average. corners improve defensive passe rating, half of the passer rating differential that is the best predictor of SB relevancy. so as long as the player drafted has a direct impact on either passer rating, it's a good pick from that perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 agree, unless that TE is one of the rare TE/WR hybrids like Graham, or Ebron can be,, a 250 lb TE that runs 4.6 is not rare lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 a 250 lb TE that runs 4.6 is not rare lol Respect your opinion greatly, no biggee. Thats why they have horse races, everyone has a different opinion http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-path-to-the-draft/0ap2000000337001/Mayock-Ebron-is-a-top-10-talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I'm 15 mins in and it seems like they're barely letting the scout speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I'm 15 mins in and it seems like they're barely letting the scout speak. If you go back and listen, you'll hear the dead air before I asked my first question (second one overall). We gave Joe every second he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 LOL nj.com just mocked Fuller to the Jets. I beat them to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 These guys don't even keep up with their own cliches....Ray Lewis just said Khalil Mack is a physical specimen because he plays the game the right way. No clue why I put it in this thread and now that I see it in writing - not that big a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 This guy is coaching for one of the teams I was with in Milan. Good luck to him. http://www.rhinos.it/2014/07/21/ex-new-york-jets-per-i-rhinos-milano-coach-bommarito/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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