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Which draft pick was your favorite ?


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#26 Villain The Foe

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:30 PM

cool, thanks.    Any of the other guys stick out to you ?

Yes. Calvin Pryor of course. I did truly believe that safety was more of a priority than Corner and Im glad that Idzik seen and understood that.

 

Generally speaking I think our top 5 picks will not only make the team but see significant time on the field. Of course Pryor and Amaro will be starters, but I have to believe that Dakota has a shot at Guard and Shaq Evans has an opportunity to make the #2 spot. Jalen Saunders is a damn good depth pick imo and could certainly play the slot giving Kerley rest and he seemed to be successful playing the outside in some highlight films that I seen. I havent been able to watch any play-by-play game tape yet.

 

If you're asking if this was a solid draft I'd have to say yes. If you're asking did this draft go as suspected I'd say partly (Jace Amaro). I didnt see that pryor pick coming especially with the WR's who were still on the board. Nonetheless, it was a need. I didnt see passing on Phillip Gaines either....especially for another Corner at that point. I also didnt see us waiting til the 4th round to start drafting WR's. I guess thats how the board fell, but still. I do think that Shaq Evans has potential and its hard to say that we should have picked a WR over Jace Amaro in the 2nd round. Im just glad that the Jets didnt have to choose between Matthews and Amaro and they picked Amaro. I believe that the Jets should have moved up to secure Matthews but thats just my bias talking. I really respect his game and his approach to it. His speech on stage and afterwards just confirmed to me that the Eagles is going to get everything he has, which is all you can ask from a football player.

 

So to sum up, the draft was solid. It addressed every position it needed to and more importantly many of the players provide dual roles (their position as well as special teams play) which indicated that the scouting department was really doing homework in regards to getting the most bang for your buck. Because of that fact all 9 players picked has a legit chance to make this football team which also shows the value in the picks. We've drafted day one starters, depth players, special teamers and developmental players. John Idzik did his thing, didnt move up or down and used all 9 picks to the best of his ability though the 1 reach imo was Dexter McDougle. I believe he would have been their in the 4th or 5th rounds and I feel that we passed on a possible day 1 starter in Phillip Gaines.

 

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:35 PM

Whichever pick pissed off the fan experts most.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:36 PM

Yes. Calvin Pryor of course. I did truly believe that safety was more of a priority than Corner and Im glad that Idzik seen and understood that.

 

Generally speaking I think our top 5 picks will not only make the team but see significant time on the field. Of course Pryor and Amaro will be starters, but I have to believe that Dakota has a shot at Guard and Shaq Evans has an opportunity to make the #2 spot. Jalen Saunders is a damn good depth pick imo and could certainly play the slot giving Kerley rest and he seemed to be successful playing the outside in some highlight films that I seen. I havent been able to watch any play-by-play game tape yet.

 

If you're asking if this was a solid draft I'd have to say yes. If you're asking did this draft go as suspected I'd say partly (Jace Amaro). I didnt see that pryor pick coming especially with the WR's who were still on the board. Nonetheless, it was a need. I didnt see passing on Phillip Gaines either....especially for another Corner at that point. I also didnt see us waiting til the 4th round to start drafting WR's. I guess thats how the board fell, but still. I do think that Shaq Evans has potential and its hard to say that we should have picked a WR over Jace Amaro in the 2nd round. Im just glad that the Jets didnt have to choose between Matthews and Amaro and they picked Amaro. I believe that the Jets should have moved up to secure Matthews but thats just my bias talking. I really respect his game and his approach to it. His speech on stage and afterwards just confirmed to me that the Eagles is going to get everything he has, which is all you can ask from a football player.

 

So to sum up, the draft was solid. It addressed every position it needed to and more importantly many of the players provide dual roles (their position as well as special teams play) which indicated that the scouting department was really doing homework in regards to getting the most bang for your buck. Because of that fact all 9 players picked has a legit chance to make this football team which also shows the value in the picks. We've drafted day one starters, depth players, special teamers and developmental players. John Idzik did his thing, didnt move up or down and used all 9 picks to the best of his ability though the 1 reach imo was Dexter McDougle. I believe he would have been their in the 4th or 5th rounds and I feel that we passed on a possible day 1 starter in Phillip Gaines.

 

Grade: A

 

 

We've drafted day one starters, depth players, special teamers and developmental players.

 

nice

 

thanks for taking the time dude.   did we get a kick returner ?  punt returner ?

 

yeah dex was weird, I like Dixon better to play on the outside, which is what they need


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:48 PM

Least favorite was Pryor by far. Cooks would have been a far bigger upgrade for this team, and all of the elite prospects were gone when we picked Amaro.

 

I like the fourth round WRs, I think both can make the team and Saunders can contribute in a lot of ways, but I think Dozier was our best pick. Give him a year to learn from Colon and he could be special.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 07:17 PM

We've drafted day one starters, depth players, special teamers and developmental players.

 

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thanks for taking the time dude.   did we get a kick returner ?  punt returner ?

 

yeah dex was weird, I like Dixon better to play on the outside, which is what they need

Jalen Saunders is a punt returner. He returned 3 punts for TD's in 2 years. This will be another way for him to make the team.

 

 

 

OU football notebook: Teams limiting Jalen Saunders' punt returns

Oklahoma's senior wide receiver ha demonstrated impressive ability on punt returns, including an 81-yard touchdown in last year's Bedlam win.

 

Oklahoma senior wide receiver Jalen Saunders has demonstrated impressive ability on punt returns, including an 81-yard touchdown in last year's Bedlam win.

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Oklahoma's Jalen Saunders (8) leaps over tacklers on a punt return during a college football game between the University of Oklahoma Sooners (OU) and the West Virginia University Mountaineers at Gaylord Family-Oklahoma Memorial Stadium in Norman, Okla., on Saturday, Sept. 7, 2013. Photo by Steve Sisney, The Oklahoman

So far this year, teams have punted to the Sooners 40 times, but Saunders has only managed 10 returns. He's averaging more than 10 yards per return, but has had to call for fair catches on most of his opportunities.

“Some people sacrifice a little distance for a little more hang time and don't allow you to return it,” said OU coach Bob Stoops.

“The ones he's had chances with he's done pretty well.”

Asked if there's anything schematically OU can do to combat those opponents' strategies, Stoops said: “No. Unless I can get in their meetings and ask them to kick it low and far.”

 

Wide receiver Jalen Saunders, who began his college career at Fresno State before transferring to Oklahoma for his final two seasons, was a fourth-round selection by the New York Jets on Saturday in the NFL draft.

The 104th overall pick came to the Jets via last year's trade of cornerback Darrelle Revis to Tampa Bay.

Saunders is 5 feet, 9 inches but weighs 165 pounds. He had 203 receptions for 3,085 yards (15.2-yard average), 26 receiving touchdowns and two rushing TDs in his four college seasons. With the Sooners, he returned three punts for touchdowns over the past two years.

He played at Fresno State in 2010-11, signing out of Pleasant Grove High-Elk Grove, but transfered after the arrival of new Bulldogs coach Tim DeRuyter before the 2012 season. Saunders was concerned over how he might be used in the spread offense that DeRuyter brought with him to the new job.

But he was productive in his short stay in Fresno, making an impact at receiver and on special teams.

Saunders returned 32 kicks for a 23.2 average in 2010 and in 2011 posted the ninth 1,000-yard receiving season in Bulldogs history on just 50 catches -- 12 of them for touchdowns -- while averaging 21.3 yards per reception. He also rushed for two TDs that season.

At Oklahoma, he averaged 12 yards per catch in 2013 and 13.4 in 2012.

"Saunders weighed in at a hefty 165 pounds at the Senior Bowl," NFL.com analyst Mike Mayock wrote. "At 165 pounds, he's one of most physical receivers in football; he ear holes defensive backs. He can play in the slot or on the outside, and he can also play special teams."

 

Jalen Saunders Fresno State Highlights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSR7uV2ZjMQ

 

 

NFL.com has Jeremiah George down as "Having the make up of a Special Teams Terror".

http://www.nfl.com/c...orge?id=2543594


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:59 PM

thanks villian, you are da man


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 09:05 PM

As someone who is not a fan of Kerley returning punts (because punt returning is insane and he's mostly earned out of it), if Saunders can be dangerous as a kick returner then the pick is a massive success. 


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 09:11 PM

Every pick that every other team made.
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Posted 10 May 2014 - 09:22 PM

There is a lot of history that goes with the Amaro pick. It's not in any way an exaggeration to say that he was drafted specifically to be Geno Smith's Wes Welker. Amaro put up record numbers at the Y receiver position in the air raid offense under Kliff Kingsbury at Texas Tech. Klingsbury was the quarterback when Welker played the same position in the original air raid at Tech under Mike Leach. One of Leach's assistants was Dana Holgorsen, who coached Geno in the system at West Virginia.

 

Also in Pryor Rex gets his 46, so there's that.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 09:25 PM

Whichever pick pissed off the fan experts most.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 09:26 PM

There is a lot of history that goes with the Amaro pick. It's not in any way an exaggeration to say that he was drafted specifically to be Geno Smith's Wes Welker. Amaro put up record numbers at the Y receiver position in the air raid offense under Kliff Kingsbury at Texas Tech. Klingsbury was the quarterback when Welker played the same position in the original air raid at Tech under Mike Leach. One of Leach's assistants was Dana Holgorsen, who coached Geno in the system at West Virginia.

 

Also in Pryor Rex gets his 46, so there's that.

 

 

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 09:30 PM

There is a lot of history that goes with the Amaro pick. It's not in any way an exaggeration to say that he was drafted specifically to be Geno Smith's Wes Welker. Amaro put up record numbers at the Y receiver position in the air raid offense under Kliff Kingsbury at Texas Tech. Klingsbury was the quarterback when Welker played the same position in the original air raid at Tech under Mike Leach. One of Leach's assistants was Dana Holgorsen, who coached Geno in the system at West Virginia.

 

Also in Pryor Rex gets his 46, so there's that.

 

Amaro was outright one of the bigger steals of the draft. He shouldn't have been there and I thank the script writers for not forgetting Los Yets in all that Browns hoopla. 


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 09:40 PM

There is a lot of history that goes with the Amaro pick. It's not in any way an exaggeration to say that he was drafted specifically to be Geno Smith's Wes Welker. Amaro put up record numbers at the Y receiver position in the air raid offense under Kliff Kingsbury at Texas Tech. Klingsbury was the quarterback when Welker played the same position in the original air raid at Tech under Mike Leach. One of Leach's assistants was Dana Holgorsen, who coached Geno in the system at West Virginia.

 

Also in Pryor Rex gets his 46, so there's that.

 

On the interview on the Jets site with Eric Allen he actually mentioned working with Wes Welker to help his route running. Really liked him before the draft and am happy we have him. He has good hands and tested out pretty well athletically at the combine. He's had success as an oversized WR and is a willing blocker, so not much more I can ask.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 09:41 PM

Least favorite was Pryor by far. Cooks would have been a far bigger upgrade for this team, and all of the elite prospects were gone when we picked Amaro.

 

I like the fourth round WRs, I think both can make the team and Saunders can contribute in a lot of ways, but I think Dozier was our best pick. Give him a year to learn from Colon and he could be special.

 

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 10:02 PM

Favorite pick was Tajh Boyd. Wanted him in last year's draft before he decided to stay at Clemson one more season, happy we got him now.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 10:04 PM

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 10:20 PM

Amaro, but this was the most disappointing draft of my jet fan life. I don't know if it was my faith in Idzik's first draft, the multiple picks, or the depth of this draft, but I was expecting so much more.

Missing out on Archer, Jackson, Gaines, Moncreif, Breeland, Ellington, Colvin, Bryant, Desir, Yankey, Mccarron, Abbrederis, sunseri, Exum, etc. I just don't understand all the reaches.
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Posted 10 May 2014 - 10:43 PM

Saunders' Fresno highlights are pretty sick...ive read here he's not DJax fast...but he sure burns a lot of cb's in that vid.

Amaro
Pryor
Dozier

Im intrigued by McDougle...kid has superfast reflexes, gets his head around consistently, and is undeniably tough. I think because he was out the last 9 games people here ran with the "oft injured" babble. Was he a reach? Ok...but Im willing to give Rex/Idzik the benefit of the doubt.

F'n kid from Nebraska looks like a monster!

Hopefully this year pans out...if we landed 2 immediate starters, 2-3 now depth, future starters, and 2-3 long term depth guys...I love this draft.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 10:46 PM

Missing out on Archer, Jackson, Gaines, Moncreif, Breeland, Ellington, Colvin, Bryant, Desir, Yankey, Mccarron, Abbrederis, sunseri, Exum, etc. I just don't understand all the reaches.


Dude, 75% of those name brand players are gonna turn out to be sh!t.
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Posted 10 May 2014 - 11:58 PM

Amaro by a mile, then Dozier, and I think Reilly has a really long, outside shot to be a Jarrett Johnson type.



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Posted 11 May 2014 - 01:04 AM

lets get some positive vibes going. Lets see if we can all agree Amaro was an awesome pick and find SOMEONE ELSE we liked


S - Calvin Pryor
CB - Dex McDougle
WR - Jalen Saunders
WR - Shaq Evans
OG - Dakota Dozier
ILB - Jeremiah George
CB - Brandon Dixon
WR - Quincy Enunwa
DE (OLB ?) - IK Enemkpali
QB - Tajh Boyd
OLB - Trevor Reilly


Loved the safety pick. I thought we were going Ha Ha Clinton Dix as he was the best rated safety. I never thought he'd fall to is, but jets obviously thought CP was the better pick (just like with Bortles n Manzy). I hope he can be Rex' Ed Reed.

Also liked the Mcdougle pick. He was injured last yr but I feel we got a player with tremendous raw talent that just needs to be exposed to some playing time (unlike DuMFcasse). Dozier was a good position pick, just don't know how the player himself is though.

I've been begging for a day 1 or day 2 guard since last yr. hopefully Dozier pans out.

Oh n Amaro was our best pick of the draft.
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Posted 11 May 2014 - 01:12 AM

Dozier for his value.  (though I liked Yankey more for his versatility and sick hand punch).  Amaro because he's a better, more consistent version of Dustin Keller.  Beyond that, we did OK.  But could have packed a wallop.  If we could have re-drafted These are likely the only two I'd have on the 2014 roster.  My grade would be C+.  And i like Idzik.  Early on the word was he's a numbers guy more than a personnel guy.  I think those that pushed that opinion might have a feather in their cap after this draft.  No excuse for missing out on top WR talent and OL talent where we drafted.  Not in this draft class.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 03:50 AM

Don't overlook this guy:

 

Quincy Enunwa is a name to know for all the Donte Moncrief fans out there. Not to pick on Moncrief, whom we’ve already dubbed a desirable if not slightly overrated talent, but when we see Enunwa play, we see a lot of the things we wished we saw in Moncrief’s film. Meanwhile, all Quincy lacks in comparison to Donte is burst. You have to give Donte his due when it comes to explosion.

Based on his game film, and where we see him going (if he goes at all) in most mocks, Enunwa is a very underrated player. In fact, it’s hard to watch his tape without at least thinking about an Anquan Boldin comparison. Sorry ... had to.

There are some understandable reasons why Enunwa is not a big name ... apart from it being no fun at all to pronounce or to look at for that matter. Enunwa (EE-noon-WAH) played his college ball for Nebraska, and one thing they are not real big on down in Lincoln, is throwing the football. The ground game was preferred by the Cornhuskers in 2013 and it wasn’t close. We’re talking about 584 rush attempts as compared to 378 passing attempts. The caliber of quarterback was also somewhat weak, depending on which one was playing. There were three Cornhuskers passers with over 100 attempts in 2013, and none with more than 134--not exactly the definition of stability. Nevertheless, Enunwa produced to the tune of twelve touchdowns.

Quincy was invited to the Combine, but his weekend was cut short by a hamstring injury. Even with his limited availability, Enunwa impressed. Let’s check out the numbers:

Height - 6’2”
Weight - 225
Hands - 9 1/2”
40 - 4.45
Bench - 19
I think it’s time I re-quote Pete Carroll. “Big fast guys are the fewest around.” I’m sure a few NFL evaluators' eyes popped out of their sockets when Enunwa ran his forty. I have to say, we were impressed too and we liked Quincy a lot going in. We were hoping for 4.50 or better. So, like I said, Moncrief fans should take notice, because Enunwa is doing a lot of what Moncrief does and he does it while catching the ball ... with his hands. And, if the draftniks prove correct, Enunwa may offer considerable savings over a guy like Moncrief, who is going in the third round in most mock drafts I've seen.

Things we like about Quincy.

Strength - Not just in terms of being able to post good numbers in the bench press, though we like that too. As with Anquan Boldin, Enunwa has the kind of strength that shows up on game film. He’s hard to bring down and he’s hard to interfere with while the ball is in flight. He wards off defenders very well and often times very subtly.
Blocking - Quincy has the strength, build and disposition to be a very good blocker, and that's what we see on film. Chip Kelly, Kyle Shanahan and Jim Harbaugh are all salivating, and they're not alone.
Speed - We were prepared to tell you that Enunwa’s speed is better when in pads, but then he ran a 4.45 at the Combine. Now we can just say that he’s fast.
Ball skills - The strength helps here, but he also brings outstanding concentration and desire to the table. He has a “my ball” mentality, which we like. He has the hands and hand strength to make tough catches in a crowd.
Hands - He has solid though not spectacular hands. He’ll have a concentration drop here and there, but he’ll make some nice grabs for you too and even things out. Hands are not going to be a problem from what we see.
Running ability - Quincy will get yards after the catch, and he’ll gets yards after contact too. He’s a tough man to bring down and he employs a nice stiff arm. Enunwa can run away from most defenders too, so you get a nice combo of power and speed. And, once he gets going full speed, he’s like a runaway train. Be careful on the tracks.
Toughness - He is willing to hit and he is willing to take a hit. He’ll watch the ball into his hands knowing that he’s going to take a good whack. We see no signs of fear or alligator arms from Enunwa. Oh yeah, he was a team Captain. They don't hand out the "C" to just anybody in Lincoln.
Production - He was a developmental guy for a few years, but he started coming on as a sophomore and kept it going as a junior. Then, in his final year, Quincy absolutely erupted with 12 scores. His twelfth score, a 99-yarder, broke two records in a single play.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 04:52 AM

Amaro.....ridiculous that ASJ went before him.  We lucked out he was there and I'll give Idzik credit on that pick. 

And Enunwa looks like a beast. The arms on this kid are Calvin Johnsonesque. And I love the Dozier pick...move over Winters.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 06:17 AM

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