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#1 JetsFanInDenver

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:26 PM

Rnd

 

1 18 Calvin Pryor FS Louisville                               A

 

2 49 Jace Amaro TE Texas Tech                            B+

 

3 80 Dexter McDougle CB Maryland                       D

 

4 104 Jalen Saunders WR Oklahoma                     F

 

4 115 Shaquelle Evans WR UCLA                          B

 

4 137 Dakota Dozier OG Furman                           A

 

5 154 Jeremiah George ILB Iowa State                   F

 

6 195 Brandon Dixon CB Northwest Missouri State B

 

6 209 Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska                      C+

 

6 210 IK Enemkpali DE Louisiana Tech                   B

 

6 213 Tajh Boyd QB Clemson                                  D

 

7 233 Trevor Reilly OLB Utah                                  A

 

 

Overall : C-

 

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#2 Larz

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:27 PM

why F for saunders ?


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:30 PM

That is the mother of all reaches. Why do think its not a F ?


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:32 PM

That is the mother of all reaches. Why do think its not a F ?

 

I've never see the guy play so I can't say where he should have been drafted.  what about the player and what he brings ?  is he a fit for marty ?


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:34 PM

Okay, well it's clear you are basing this on media grades. That's fine, that's all I had to go on too... but I'm not flapping around as if the Jets did something horrible because media grades ended up misleading me. The reality is, LOTS of players fell and LOTS of players got "reached" on.

 

The center that the Patriots took in like round 3 has a scouting report that says he'd be UDFA. 


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:35 PM

I've never see the guy play so I can't say where he should have been drafted.  what about the player and what he brings ?  is he a fit for marty ?

 

4th round ? Its a F. Sixth round it s a higher grade.. There were a lot of better options available at that point.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:36 PM

Okay, well it's clear you are basing this on media grades. That's fine, that's all I had to go on too... but I'm not flapping around as if the Jets did something horrible because media grades ended up misleading me. The reality is, LOTS of players fell and LOTS of players got "reached" on.

 

The center that the Patriots took in like round 3 has a scouting report that says he'd be UDFA. 

 

WHo the hell cars if the Pats crash and burn or any other does the same. The focus is on JETS.

 

Nice try to force an implication. Let me know where you see the same grades being assigned anywhere else.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:39 PM

That is the mother of all reaches. Why do think its not a F ?

As soon as he returns a kick 90 yds for 6 you'll change your tune.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:41 PM

As soon as he returns a kick 90 yds for 6 you'll change your tune.

 

Thats all we expect from a 4th rounder ? Ahh Joe McKnight eh.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:41 PM

That is the mother of all reaches. Why do think its not a F ?

 

FWIW, not ONE analyst on either broadcast thought it was a reach, in fact it was noted as one of the best picks in the 4th round by NFL Network. He is the best PR in the draft, that alone makes him a minimum of a C. He's just light, but durable and tough and productive. I thought it was a really good pick.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:41 PM

WHo the hell cars if the Pats crash and burn or any other does the same. The focus is on JETS.

 

Nice try to force an implication. Let me know where you see the same grades being assigned anywhere else.

 

I'm not trying to force anything. I think you sound foolish, and are acting like you have a level of knowledge that you clearly don't.

 

It's one thing to use media grades as a frame of reference, it's an entirely other thing to embrace the media grades as gospel and then flail about like a ninny when the draft inevitably doesn't match up with them.

 

Every single year the draft is completely OFF from the media grades... and yet teams still somehow get better and such.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:41 PM

4th round ? Its a F. Sixth round it s a higher grade.. There were a lot of better options available at that point.

 

so this is all about how the player met with kipers best available ? 


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:42 PM

Thats all we expect from a 4th rounder ? Ahh Joe McKnight eh.

 

Leon Washington. 

 

Yeah, pretty much... situational players. Football teams are comprised of role players. You talk as if every draft pick should result in a hall of famer. LOL


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:43 PM

FWIW, not ONE analyst on either broadcast thought it was a reach, in fact it was noted as one of the best picks in the 4th round by NFL Network. He is the best PR in the draft, that alone makes him a minimum of a C. He's just light, but durable and tough and productive. I thought it was a really good pick.

 

I just dont think PR's are a 4th round focus when you have a need at WR. There were a lot better options available. And its not like this kid was going anywhere before the 6th.

 

Extremly low value pick.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:45 PM

I'm not trying to force anything. I think you sound foolish, and are acting like you have a level of knowledge that you clearly don't.

 

It's one thing to use media grades as a frame of reference, it's an entirely other thing to embrace the media grades as gospel and then flail about like a ninny when the draft inevitably doesn't match up with them.

 

Every single year the draft is completely OFF from the media grades... and yet teams still somehow get better and such.

 

Hahaha....just because you want to cheerlead does not mean you have to insult anyone who disagrees with you. Pick up you poms poms and start cheerleading no one is stopping you.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:46 PM

Leon Washington. 

 

Yeah, pretty much... situational players. Football teams are comprised of role players. You talk as if every draft pick should result in a hall of famer. LOL

 

DIdnt the Joe MckNight pick happen to replace Leon,


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:49 PM

Hahaha....just because you want to cheerlead does not mean you have to insult anyone who disagrees with you. Pick up you poms poms and start cheerleading no one is stopping you.

 

I'm not being mean, no intentionally, I'm just trying to pull you out of your tantrum with some perspective. Anyone that knows my history as a poster here and on other sites, should know I'm not much of a cheerleader. Hell I was calling for Mangini to be fired in his first year, when everyone else loved the guy. 

 

DIdnt the Joe MckNight pick happen to replace Leon,

 

Yes. They were both 4th rounders, some do better than others, both were ROLE PLAYERS to the point I made earlier.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:03 PM

I'm not being mean, no intentionally, I'm just trying to pull you out of your tantrum with some perspective. Anyone that knows my history as a poster here and on other sites, should know I'm not much of a cheerleader. Hell I was calling for Mangini to be fired in his first year, when everyone else loved the guy. 

 

 

Yes. They were both 4th rounders, some do better than others, both were ROLE PLAYERS to the point I made earlier.

 

Please tell me the upside of that pick instead of deflecting.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:26 PM

I just dont think PR's are a 4th round focus when you have a need at WR. There were a lot better options available. And its not like this kid was going anywhere before the 6th.

 

Extremly low value pick.

He's not a PR, he is a physical (despite his size) playmaker that is elusive and has excellent game speed. The return ability is a big plus.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:27 PM

I don't think Saunders deserves a F. He was a reach and there was better prospects at that spot but he's still decent.


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(Chandler)'s a nice piece as long as he's the 7th most important player on your roster....I think they're going to be disappointed when they see he's just a pumped-up Drew Gooden.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:37 PM

Rnd

 

1 18 Calvin Pryor FS Louisville                               A

 

2 49 Jace Amaro TE Texas Tech                            B+

 

3 80 Dexter McDougle CB Maryland                       D

 

4 104 Jalen Saunders WR Oklahoma                     F

 

4 115 Shaquelle Evans WR UCLA                          B

 

4 137 Dakota Dozier OG Furman                           A

 

5 154 Jeremiah George ILB Iowa State                   F

 

6 195 Brandon Dixon CB Northwest Missouri State B

 

6 209 Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska                      C+

 

6 210 IK Enemkpali DE Louisiana Tech                   B

 

6 213 Tajh Boyd QB Clemson                                  D

 

7 233 Trevor Reilly OLB Utah                                  A

 

 

Overall : C-

 

Thoughts.

I disagree with you. Thats my thought.

 

Rnd

 

1 18 Calvin Pryor FS Louisville                               B+ (Best Safety in the draft. I give it a B+ and not an A given his position in comparison to the WR's we left on the board to acquire him. Calvin Pryor is a top talent though so the grade doesnt necessarily describe my feelings for his game, only the circumstance)

 

2 49 Jace Amaro TE Texas Tech                            A (arguably the best TE in the draft)

 

3 80 Dexter McDougle CB Maryland                       D+ (The pick was a reach, but you do see the potential in him)

 

4 104 Jalen Saunders WR Oklahoma                     B+ (Weapon in open space, can produce in the slot & outside, can stretch the field, feared special teamer)

 

4 115 Shaquelle Evans WR UCLA                          B

 

4 137 Dakota Dozier OG Furman                           B (He needs work, not an A grade to me.)

 

5 154 Jeremiah George ILB Iowa State                   B- (his stats alone shows he's not an F.)

 

6 195 Brandon Dixon CB Northwest Missouri State B

 

6 209 Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska                      C+

 

6 210 IK Enemkpali DE Louisiana Tech                   B

 

6 213 Tajh Boyd QB Clemson                                  B (Tajh Boyd based on where he was taken brings value to this team. I would have rather had David Fales or Logan Thomas, but dont get it confused, Tajh Boyd with the 4th pick in the 6th round has steal potential written all over it).

 

7 233 Trevor Reilly OLB Utah                                  A

 

 

Overall : A


Edited by Villain The Foe, 10 May 2014 - 09:03 PM.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:41 PM

As soon as he returns a kick 90 yds for 6 you'll change your tune.

yup, or catch a game winning TD.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:48 PM

Does anyone remember the consensus grade on the Richardson pick last year?...betcha nobody had it as A+++


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:53 PM

Anyone who would rate Saunders an F just didn't watch OU games. He's a player and an excellent pick. A lot of these draft publications rate people based on physical traits rather than their ability to make plays.. Martavius Bryant is proof of that. Anyone who watch him play saw a body catcher who lacked a lot of polish to his game. Saunders will be a payaker from day one. First on all specials and then in multiple receiver sets.
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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:55 PM



This will be my grade.

Little better than a B but
slightly less than a B+
1. CALVIN PRYOR A Would be a A+ since CB was bigger need.
2. JACE AMARO A+ Need plus best TE in draft
3. DEXTER MCDOUGLE F Only 3 games in college and a third round pick. Get him later. Wasted a third.
4. JALEN SAUNDERS C- There were other players better than him. A late 5th rounder going early. His plus/ returner
5. SHAQUILE EVANS D+ Terrible pick. So many receivers who were left better than him. No breakaway speed or tackle.
6. DAKOTA DOZIER A- Was a small school gem. He will be a great guard. Give him time.
7. JEREMIAH GEORGE F Total waste pick. So deep a draft and you take a special teamer in the fifth round.
8. BRANDON DIXON B Division 2 warrior CB. He is better than MCDOUGLE. He needs coaching and he will bloom.
9. QUINCY ENUNWA B Interesting player who I watched many times. He could be a surprise. Big and tough and good hands
10. IK ENAMPALI C Practice squad player. Needs time to develop.
11. TAJH BOYD D Good college QB but will never succeed in the NFL. Not accurate at all. good guy and competitor.
12. TREVOR REILLY A+ A third round pick in the 7th is a steal. Speed rusher and tough as nails
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