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#1 Klecko73isGod

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 10:41 AM

http://deadspin.com/...o-ca-1582909818

 

And the hits just keep on comin'...

 

Say it with me brothers..... CIRCUS!!!


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#2 Matt39

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 10:47 AM

Will have to wait and hear on this. Deadspin and Tom Ley aren't exactly the bearers of morality either.
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 10:48 AM

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 10:50 AM

Will have to wait and hear on this. Deadspin and Tom Ley aren't exactly the bearers of morality either.

 

Ok, here's the article from Fox Sports: http://msn.foxsports...rom-home-052814


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 10:51 AM

Ok, here's the article from Fox Sports: http://msn.foxsports...rom-home-052814


I think what's funnier is the Dolphins employed a scout to work from home for 10 years.
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 10:53 AM

It's certainly messed up. But what should make you angrier is the cost of their insurance blowing up.
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 10:58 AM

It's certainly messed up. But what should make you angrier is the cost of their insurance blowing up.

 

Its not the cost of their insurance that blew up. The Dolphins chose a plan that didn't cover the wife's illness anymore. 


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:01 AM

Its not the cost of their insurance that blew up. The Dolphins chose a plan that didn't cover the wife's illness anymore.


I don't see how that indicts the Dolphins of anything. Unless there's evidence of them specifically changing plans to get him out. But then again- why wouldn't they just fire him?
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:03 AM

I don't see how that indicts the Dolphins of anything. Unless there's evidence of them specifically changing plans to get him out. But then again- why wouldn't they just fire him?

 

Dude, you need to read articles before you comment on them:

 

The intent-to-initiate-litigation letter also states the Dolphins began excluding cystic fibrosis medications from their health care when revamping their insurance offerings in April. Harr told FOX Sports 1 that the cost of one prescription skyrocketed from $10 to $3,000 per pill under the new policy.

"It is our understanding that Cystic Fibrosis was the only terminal medical condition singled out," the letter states. "This drastic reduction in health care benefits jeopardized JoAnne Sullivan's ability to afford her pharmaceuticals, shifting an exorbitant financial burden on the Sullivans."


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:05 AM

Again- that doesn't indict the Dolphins of anything. Hickey has the right to hire his own scouting dept.

Insurance costs went up for everyone recently.

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:08 AM

Again- that doesn't indict the Dolphins of anything. Hickey has the right to hire his own scouting dept.

 

He does. And Florida is a right to work state and Sullivan was an at will employee. 

 

Hickey and the Dolphins ****ed up royally by telling him that his situation didn't work for Hickey and that's why he was being fired. Legally they don't need to give him a reason but they did and he can use it against them. They should have just told him they were moving in another direction and Hickey was hiring scouts he was familiar with. 

 

That is why they are a circus. 


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:11 AM

He does. And Florida is a right to work state and Sullivan was an at will employee.

Hickey and the Dolphins ****ed up royally by telling him that his situation didn't work for Hickey and that's why he was being fired. Legally they don't need to give him a reason but they did and he can use it against them. They should have just told him they were moving in another direction and Hickey was hiring scouts he was familiar with.

That is why they are a circus.


I'm happy that they're a circus. But they didn't really do anything wrong here. Having a terminally ill wife is terrible, and it seems the Dolphins catered to that for a while. But Hickey also has a job to do. If I were to guess this scout stuck around working from home because the organization was scared of litigation. Hickey just decided to go with it I guess.
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:21 AM

I'm happy that they're a circus. But they didn't really do anything wrong here. Having a terminally ill wife is terrible, and it seems the Dolphins catered to that for a while. But Hickey also has a job to do. If I were to guess this scout stuck around working from home because the organization was scared of litigation. Hickey just decided to go with it I guess.

 

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Legally wrong is debatable. They did allow this to go on for 10 years and then seemingly tried to get the guy to quit by changing the insurance coverage (at least that is what his lawyer will argue) and when he didn't they stupidly told him the real reason why they were firing him which they were under no legal obligation to give him. But once they did, if he can prove their motivations were in any way discriminatory, he can sue. Regardless of legality, the organization looks like heartless pricks. 

 

Not to mention that if you were the Dolphins organization, when considering all of the off field BS they've dealt with in the last 10 months, no one consults with legal or public relations before firing someone? 

 

If the Jets did this, Skip Bayless would be ranting about it on ESPN for hours today.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:48 AM

I don't see how that indicts the Dolphins of anything. Unless there's evidence of them specifically changing plans to get him out. But then again- why wouldn't they just fire him?

 

Matt - read the article.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:49 AM

I just hope they don't fire anybody from the PR staff
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:49 AM

I'm happy that they're a circus. But they didn't really do anything wrong here. Having a terminally ill wife is terrible, and it seems the Dolphins catered to that for a while. But Hickey also has a job to do. If I were to guess this scout stuck around working from home because the organization was scared of litigation. Hickey just decided to go with it I guess.

 

Well the courts will decide that.  If your read the article they talk about the exclusion for one particular type of drug.  If that is true, that is beyond terrible.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:59 AM

whoever gets their side of the story out first has a big advantage in the court of public opinion. fortunately that is not how justice is usually decided. the scout's lawyer's version sounds pretty despicable and going public is probably payback for the team not agreeing to a quiet hush settlement. if it's 100% accurate you would've expected money to change hands and for this to be buried. will be interesting to see the dolphin's side of this.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:20 PM

Well the courts will decide that.  If your read the article they talk about the exclusion for one particular type of drug.  If that is true, that is beyond terrible.

 

I read the article. Maybe I'm unfamiliar with the ADA act- but under it is an employer not allowed to terminate an employee with a terminally ill spouse? If so, then yeah the Dolphins are screwed.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:31 PM

We used to employ a GM that worked from home.
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:32 PM

We used to employ a GM that worked from home.

 

The first day of free agency Bradway was at Disney World. Limo Lady defended it. 


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:35 PM

The first day of free agency Bradway was at Disney World. Limo Lady defended it.



Naturally, on both counts.
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:41 PM

whoever gets their side of the story out first has a big advantage in the court of public opinion. fortunately that is not how justice is usually decided. the scout's lawyer's version sounds pretty despicable and going public is probably payback for the team not agreeing to a quiet hush settlement. if it's 100% accurate you would've expected money to change hands and for this to be buried. will be interesting to see the dolphin's side of this.

 

Agreed. The human element should always be the number one priority regardless. However, we all know its always $ first feelings second.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:43 PM

They will probably settle, but the Dolphins should not have to pay anything.  They don't determine the list of drugs that are approved under the health plan of who ever they participate with. And, an accomodation was made for this scout under previous regimes, but the nature of the job he was holding was determined to require travel that he was unable to accomplish under this regime.  That is an acceptable reason to terminate him.  The American with Disabilities Act requires employers to make all reasonable accomodations, but having a scout be home bound just does not seem reasonable.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:46 PM

I read the article. Maybe I'm unfamiliar with the ADA act- but under it is an employer not allowed to terminate an employee with a terminally ill spouse? If so, then yeah the Dolphins are screwed.

 

At will employees can be let go at any time.

 

My point is IF they went through their medical expenses and removed the drug that his wife needs as some sort of retribution -- then they have a whole world of hurt coming their way.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:46 PM

oops

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