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2014 World Cup - Brazil


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#751 Jetsfan80

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 09:24 AM

Germany could have beaten us 3, 4-0 if they wanted to.

 

But they didn't.  If they had we wouldn't have made it out so I don't see why you're pushing a "They called the dogs off" narrative when there was no reason to take their foot off the pedal.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 09:26 AM

But they didn't.  If they had we wouldn't have made it out so I don't see why you're pushing a "They called the dogs off" narrative when there was no reason to take their foot off the pedal.

 

Of course there was considering they clinched the 1 seed already and the relationship between the coaches. Everyone enjoyed seeing Brazil get embarrassed.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:04 AM

Germany could have beaten us 3, 4-0 if they wanted to.  

 

this statement is disrespectful to Tim Howard


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:11 AM

this statement is disrespectful to Tim Howard

 

Bingo.  Belgium should have scored about 5 goals on us if it weren't for Tim.  Having the ability to pepper a goalie with shots is nice, but the US produces top-flight GK's.  It's our best export in this sport.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:20 AM

Maybe, but Argentina has not looked nearly as good as a team at any point in this Cup. And I don't think Germany will do anything remotely like what the Dutch did today. This was Messi's least productive game on the stat sheet, but the Dutch had a perception of him and what he commanded on the field, because of that perception won Argentina the game. The Germans do not play that crap. The Dutch had Nigel de Jong on him all game no matter where he went, and they sacrificed their entire forward line to keep 2 other guys pinned back for the whole game.

That's pretty much why this was the most boring game of the Cup. When one team plays like that, it ruins both teams' chances of attacking. Dumb strategy too, because the Dutch easily has the horses to compete if Messi scored a couple goals.

Germany does not play that way. I think they will probably approach Argentina similarly as they did Brazil because they have to take the crowd out of the game. They like to meet you right at what your strengths are, but most importantly the Germans play to attack at all times. They score and pass more than anybody on this stage. They are not going to throw that strategy away to emulate the Dutch when it wasn't successful.

 

The German defense is a whole lot weaker than the Dutch defense.

It would be interesting to see how they defend Messi. If Messi is opening it up at will it would be interesting to see how Yogi reacts.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:27 AM

The German defense is a whole lot weaker than the Dutch defense.
It would be interesting to see how they defend Messi. If Messi is opening it up at will it would be interesting to see how Yogi reacts.


Messi will get some openings to do his thing. He was blanked yesterday because the Dutch sacrificed everything to stop him, including their chances at winning. Germany doesn't switch up what they do for anybody.
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:28 AM

this statement is disrespectful to Tim Howard


Look bit you're just going to have to face reality and come to grips with the stone cold fact that the Germans had a secret agreement with us to shoot those 20 balls closer to his hands so they wouldn't beat us too badly.
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:37 AM

Look bit you're just going to have to face reality and come to grips with the stone cold fact that the Germans had a secret agreement with us to shoot those 20 balls closer to his hands so they wouldn't beat us too badly.

 

13 shots (9 on goal, forcing 8 Howard saves), 63 % possession, called for offsides 7 times......yeah, those numbers are the mark of a team colluding and/or taking their feet off the pedal.

 

They had more shots against us that match than they had against France.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 11:19 AM

this statement is disrespectful to Tim Howard


Why? Howard was by far he best player on our team...but there's nothing a goalie can do with the skill level of the German offense.
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 11:42 AM

Messi will get some openings to do his thing. He was blanked yesterday because the Dutch sacrificed everything to stop him, including their chances at winning. Germany doesn't switch up what they do for anybody.

 

Thats the most likely way they start. And that why i expect Argentina to be a lot more lethal. Add to that the weak German defense and I think its not going to be a cakewalk that people are expecting it to be for Germany.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 11:55 AM

Thats the most likely way they start. And that why i expect Argentina to be a lot more lethal. Add to that the weak German defense and I think its not going to be a cakewalk that people are expecting it to be for Germany.

 

I don't think it will be a cakewalk either. However I do think yesterday's win was more a product of the Dutch handing Argentina the game. Don't get me wrong, Zabaleta and Mascherano were both brilliant yesterday, but that was the worst coaching job of the Cup. Even down to the shootout, where van Gaal had used up all his substitutions and couldn't bring Krul out.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:59 PM

I don't think it will be a cakewalk either. However I do think yesterday's win was more a product of the Dutch handing Argentina the game. Don't get me wrong, Zabaleta and Mascherano were both brilliant yesterday, but that was the worst coaching job of the Cup. Even down to the shootout, where van Gaal had used up all his substitutions and couldn't bring Krul out.

 

As far as worst coaching job is concerned dont slight the efforts of the Brazilian coach. ;)

 

I never understood the use of substitutes and also the order in which the kicks were taken by the Dutch. Just baffling. But I guess the soccer Gods do believe in justice because the Dutch did not score a single goal in the last two games and it would have been an abomination if they went to the Finals.


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Posted 11 July 2014 - 03:44 AM

**** this fianl. Argentina have been TERRIBLE in this tournament and are going to ******* win it. You don't get to a final playing this badly only to lose it. Not happening.

 

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 11:44 AM

**** this fianl. Argentina have been TERRIBLE in this tournament and are going to ******* win it. You don't get to a final playing this badly only to lose it. Not happening.

 

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 11:51 PM

Most people are impressed by Germany because of the 7-1 win. But if you look at their goals the Brazilian defense was napping the entire game. You do not see such uncontested goals in the penalty box.

Now if you think about it Germany has a vulnerable defense. Their defense looked very ordinary against Ghana and Algeria. And now they have to contend with defending Messi. Think Argentina has the upper hand in the Final.



Germany is a completely different team now with Lahm back in his natural position and Khedira and Schweinsteiger both healthy in midfield. I think it'll be a closer game than people think and they're vulnerable opposite Lahm but you can't really compare it to the earlier games.
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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:46 AM

Nice to see FIFA have their priorities straight. They've fined the Argies three times the amount they fined Suarez for his bite.

 

Their crime? Not having players at the media conferences.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:53 PM

Brazil sucks.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:00 PM

How bad where they? I didn't bother watching them compete in the World cups most useless match on a nice Saturday
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Posted 13 July 2014 - 06:55 PM

Germany win, as expected.

 

My team of the tournament:

 

GK Neuer: best keeper in the world alongside Courtois. Maybe Germany's best player? Always had the feeling that it was gonna take something special to beat him. Huge game against Algeria.

 

RB Fabian Johnson: i'm biased, but i thought he was really consistent for us and did a great job against Ronaldo

CB Hummels: world class defender, also scored in the big matches against Portugal and France

CB Vlaar: rock solid for Holland throughout and their best player in the semi final

LB Daley Blind: smart, versatile player...i was really impressed by him

 

CM Mascherano: Argentina's best player by far.

CM Kroos: world class midfielder, great vision, amazing passer. I'd put him alongside Neuer as Germany's best player.

 

RM Muller: great passer, finisher, works hard off the ball. The kind of player all winning teams need

AM James Rodriguez: top scorer but more importantly showed great vision, passing and finishing ability

LM Robben: terrifying presence, a nightmare to defend; even in extra time (never gets tired), and very good at winning fouls

 

F Benzema: the best striker in the tournament for me. a complete striker, can play with back to goal, hold the ball up, can run at defenders, can shoot, can pass, etc.

 

i'd lineup like this in a 4-3-3

 

------------------------ Neuer ---------

--- Johnson --- Hummels ---- Vlaar --- Blind ---

-------------------- Mascherano --------------

---------------- Kroos ------- James ---------------

------ Muller --------------------------- Robben -----

--------------------- Benzema ---------------------

 


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 07:50 PM

My team of the tournament:

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 11:03 PM

My team of the tournament:

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Open WIDE for some SOCCEEERRRRRR!!!


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Posted 13 August 2014 - 08:47 AM

Nice article on Yedlin:  http://grantland.com...lub-mls-soccer/

 

 

 

Supposedly our best athletes don't play soccer, but Yedlin, who dominated when playing football as a kid, chose soccer. 

 

Today, it’s easy to look at Yedlin — 5-foot-8 and thick-chested, and able to outrun the best soccer players in the world — and imagine him on an NFL roster. He could be Darren Sproles, leaving linebackers grasping at air, or he could be Tyrann Mathieu, another Mohawked terror with a knack for separating offensive players from the ball. In college, Yedlin was clocked at about 4.2 seconds in the 40-yard dash. And, says his college coach, Caleb Porter, “It’s about a lot more than top-end speed. It’s his burst, his ability to go from a jog to a sprint before you even realize what has just happened.” His athleticism, Porter says, “is truly world-class.”

It would have made sense for Yedlin to play football. He inhabits a cornerback’s body in an age when cornerbacks can command $70 million contracts. He grew up in a city that became home to Richard Sherman, one of the best and highest-paid corners in the NFL. Almost as soon as a young athlete hits puberty, the American sports industry offers him incentives to star in football, basketball, or baseball. If you’re a physically gifted American teenager with American friends consuming American media, chances are you don’t consider soccer your best option for a career in sports.

 


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Posted 14 August 2014 - 10:13 PM

And now Barcelona rumored to be interested in Fabian Johnson.  

 

 

http://www.givemespo...-fabian-johnson


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