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NY Jets Minicamp - Day Two


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I will be at minicamp on Wednesday.  I am going to live tweet it as much as possible.  If you are on Twitter, please follow us:  http://twitter.com/JetNation

 

If there are any volunteers please update this thread with any relevant training camp tweets, that would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.

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Enjoy. I look forward to reading the updates later today.

 

Thanks Max

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Looking forward to updates, well appreciated.

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Jets owner Woody Johnson just did 10 push-ups with the team after a penalty. Seriously.
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Colon is moving pretty well. That is good to see.

 

Wide receiver Greg Salas is the Shorts All-Pro for the Jets today.

 

Geno to salad for a long TD. #nyjets

 

Vick looks terrible today. Just got picked off by Jaiquawn Jarrett #nyj

 

If Michael Vick's name was Michael Smith, he might be in danger of getting cut right now.

 

For those asking, Geno Smith looked OK today. Some good moments. Too quick to pull down and run, though.

 

At least to me, Michael Vick's body language has been "off" in these workouts. Looks like he doesn't want to be here and heart isn't in it.

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Jets QB coach David Lee: "Geno is a tremendously improved player right now."

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Cliff's Notes of Jets QB coach David Lee media session: Geno's great, Vick's great, QB situation is great, practices have been great.

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So Geno was tossing (to) "salad"?  hehe

 

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QB coach-of course he says the QB is doing good!

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From all reports, Vick has looked impressive when he scrambles or pulls the ball down and runs.  Now it's coming out that Geno is quick to pull down and run. Perhaps this whole mentor thing might be rubbing off on Geno in the wrong way. 

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Colon is moving pretty well. That is good to see.

 

Wide receiver Greg Salas is the Shorts All-Pro for the Jets today.

 

Geno to salad for a long TD. #nyjets

 

Vick looks terrible today. Just got picked off by Jaiquawn Jarrett #nyj

 

If Michael Vick's name was Michael Smith, he might be in danger of getting cut right now.

 

For those asking, Geno Smith looked OK today. Some good moments. Too quick to pull down and run, though.

 

At least to me, Michael Vick's body language has been "off" in these workouts. Looks like he doesn't want to be here and heart isn't in it.

 

One bad practice and Vick doesn't want to be here and his heart is not in it.  And so it begins.  

Why anyone would want to play in NY is beyond me. 

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From all reports, Vick has looked impressive when he scrambles or pulls the ball down and runs.  Now it's coming out that Geno is quick to pull down and run. Perhaps this whole mentor thing might be rubbing off on Geno in the wrong way. 

 

This is actually why I was against the Vick signing, even in spite of liking the idea of the Jets bringing in a veteran at the position.  Throughout Vick's NFL career he has shown a great deal of the traits that you don't want your QB to have.  Even if you say it worked for him, he'd still have to very much be considered the exception to the rule.

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Cliff's Notes of Jets QB coach David Lee media session: Geno's great, Vick's great, QB situation is great, practices have been great.

 

 

To quote Tony the Tiger - THEYYYYY'RE GREAT!

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How did the defensive backs look? What is the status on Milliner?

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So Geno was tossing (to) "salad"?  hehe

 

Yeah I got crucified for that typo on Twitter.

 

It was Salas with the long TD, lol.

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From all reports, Vick has looked impressive when he scrambles or pulls the ball down and runs.  Now it's coming out that Geno is quick to pull down and run. Perhaps this whole mentor thing might be rubbing off on Geno in the wrong way. 

 

I don't think so, these are just drills. Geno rolled out of the pocket a lot today and since there was no blitzing the sideline was wide open.  He scrambled out of bounds for a few yard gain on a few plays.  I don't see this leading to him being a different QB long term.

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I see a lot of positive reports on our receivers today, I know it's only minicamp and means nothing but still it's good to hear. Also, it sounds like it's Jacoby Ford's job to lose in the return game.

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This is actually why I was against the Vick signing, even in spite of liking the idea of the Jets bringing in a veteran at the position.  Throughout Vick's NFL career he has shown a great deal of the traits that you don't want your QB to have.  Even if you say it worked for him, he'd still have to very much be considered the exception to the rule.

 

yep, it really set nick foles back.   

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yep, it really set nick foles back.   

 

Obviously Geno is not doomed for failure simply for being on the same field as Vick, I just don't think there's much to learn from the guy.  Unless Foles learned from Vick how to be a completely different player than himself, which I personally doubt, I simply think Vick's not likely to be much of a mentor.  And frankly I never thought much of him as a starter to begin with, so there's that too.

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it's ******* minicamp

 

all we care about is no injuries

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it's ******* minicamp

all we care about is no injuries

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In the end that's all that really matters.

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Obviously Geno is not doomed for failure simply for being on the same field as Vick, I just don't think there's much to learn from the guy.  Unless Foles learned from Vick how to be a completely different player than himself, which I personally doubt, I simply think Vick's not likely to be much of a mentor.  And frankly I never thought much of him as a starter to begin with, so there's that too.

 

completely agree with you, and don't forget the dog killing, and ron mexico / herpes thing.  

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From all reports, Vick has looked impressive when he scrambles or pulls the ball down and runs.  Now it's coming out that Geno is quick to pull down and run. Perhaps this whole mentor thing might be rubbing off on Geno in the wrong way. 

From an article by Bart Hubbunch

 

“Early December was when it first started happening,” Lee said. “He started finishing plays and knowing where people were.”

Added Mornhinweg: “The last part of the year, Geno really played at a high level.”

The difference, Lee said, was Smith’s willingness in December to start tucking and running instead of forcing throws that could lead to backbreaking turnovers. Smith ran for more yards (188) in December than he did the season’s first three months combined.

“He started hurting people by running more,” Lee said. “That wasn’t something he thought about in college. He was a pocket passer.”

http://nypost.com/2014/06/18/no-controversy-geno-will-get-majority-of-first-team-snaps/

 

 

 

Smith isn't so much being mentored into running more, he is being heavily coached  into running rather then putting the ball up for grabs.  

 

If he going to succeed that is how he will have to play. 

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From an article by Bart Hubbunch

 

“Early December was when it first started happening,” Lee said. “He started finishing plays and knowing where people were.”

Added Mornhinweg: “The last part of the year, Geno really played at a high level.”

The difference, Lee said, was Smith’s willingness in December to start tucking and running instead of forcing throws that could lead to backbreaking turnovers. Smith ran for more yards (188) in December than he did the season’s first three months combined.

“He started hurting people by running more,” Lee said. “That wasn’t something he thought about in college. He was a pocket passer.”

http://nypost.com/2014/06/18/no-controversy-geno-will-get-majority-of-first-team-snaps/

 

 

 

Smith isn't so much being mentored into running more, he is being heavily coached  into running rather then putting the ball up for grabs.  

 

If he going to succeed that is how he will have to play. 

 

That's a good point, and I think there's a very careful line there though.  When a play isn't there, it's definitely much, much better to take advantage of his speed and make a positive play out of potentially bad situation.  That said, you need to be careful and not push him too much in the opposite direction either, as you don't want a guy who is tucking and running all of the time.  It never seems to work out too well for QBs in the NFL with that method (with injuries being one of the primary concerns).  Geno still needs to be a passer first and foremost, and if he can't do that then he's not going to be the answer for the Jets.

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