Tom Shane Predicts The Jets Season

[T0mShane]

Last year, when absolutely no one but a few basketball "writers" (aka to Jets/Rex fans as "everyone") were predicting the Jets to win 2 games, I boldly went against the Stephen A. grain and called for a 7-9 season, citing the fact that the Jets would do just enough on defense to make it interesting (and by "interesting," I meant "just good enough to ruin a draft slot"). In sum, I was closer than "everyone."

Without further ado, here is my 2014-2015 season prediction:

Oakland Raiders @ Jets

Result: Jets 27, Raiders 9

The Raiders have historically given the Jets major problems, but this Oakland team is straight trash. Matt Schaub has all the intestinal fortitude of a fainting goat, and Derek Carr won't be ready to compete against an NFL defense like the one Rex will have prepared for this opener. Geno Smith will only throw the ball 17 times, but Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory will combine for 150 yards on the ground. Quentin Coples will have 2 sacks (one coming when Schaub collapses at his feet on a third-and-20 situation). Calvin Pryor will get flagged for his first helmet-to-helmet penalty when he hits James Jones in the lower abdomen too hard in the first quarter.

Jets @ Green Bay Packers

Result: Packers 21, Jets 17

In what will be a pretty sloppy offensive game for both teams, Aaron Rodgers will do just enough to get the Packers a W. Geno Smith will throw a TD pass to Eric Decker in the fourth quarter to get it close, but it won't be enough to overcome his two earlier INT's. Jordy Nelson rolls the Jets corners for 9 catches on the day, and Clay Matthews runs around Breno Giacomini all day long. On the plus side, the front seven pushes around the Packers OL enough to keep Rodgers from getting comfortable.

Chicago Bears @ Jets

(Monday night)

Result: Bears 42, Jets 16

This will be a wheels-fall-off type game similar to the beatdown the Jets received at the hands of the Bengals last season. The Bears have too much size at wideout, and Jay Cutler is too oblivious to get rattled by Rex's defense. On offense, the Jets respond to Geno's "slow start to the season" by floating the possibility of Vick starting at some point ("Boyitellya, he's raring to go"--anonymous quote), which results in nine million QB CIRCUS! storylines in the papers, which then results in an untenable environment for any young QB. Marty Mornhinweg spends the week deflecting Vick questions, up until the third quarter rolls around and Vick takes the field.

Detroit Lions @ Jets

Result: Jets 34, Lions 21

The Rex Jets respond well to public humiliation and short rest, both of which they'll have for this matchup. Matt Stafford is just too dumb to win this game. Geno bounces back, throwing 2 TDs and rushing for 1. Calvin Pryor gets another flag for spearing Reggie Bush, and combines with Dee Milliner to give up a ridiculously easy-looking TD to Megatron. Another good day on the ground for Ivory and Chris Johnson, even though Chris Johnson develops a limp around this point in the season.

Jets @ San Diego Chargers

Result: Chargers 23, Jets 14

The Jets will scrap, but Chris Johnson will miss this game with a hamstring. This will be the first week that we see packages installed for Mike Vick, because that always works. The Chargers hate playing the Jets, but Mike McCoy is slowly filtering the hillbilliness out of Phillip Rivers' game, which should be enough to knock the Jets down here.

Denver Broncos @ New York Jets

Result: Jets 35, Broncos 27

This will be the annual The Game The Jets Shouldn't Win But Do Anyway Game. Geno plays well, Ivory and Powell keep the chains moving, and Peyton Manning gets drilled three times in the first quarter, inciting a billion ESPN mock-debates on the humanity of letting Peyton Manning take the field at his advanced age.

Jets @ New England Patriots

(Thursday night)

Result: Patriots 24, Jets 21

The Jets keep it close, but Mike Vick (in the WildVick package) fumbles late, leading to a Pats field goal that wins the game.

Buffalo Bills @ Jets

Result: Jets 19, Bills 3

Another ugly game, but the Jets bounce back by beating on EJ Manuel. This is a Bills-Jets game, meaning that everyone who watches it comes away from it really depressed, regardless of the outcome.

Jets @ Kansas City Chiefs

Result: Chiefs 36, Jets 3

The Revenge of Bob Sutton Game. Geno, in Arrowhead, trying to complete passes against that Chiefs defense, will look like trash. Alex Smith doesn't turn it over, but the Jets will, leading to an ugly result.

Pittsburgh Steelers @ Jets

Result: Jets 14, Steelers 10

In a game reminiscent of the 1936 Chicago Cardinals v Des Moines Pioneers title match, the Jets nip Ben Roethlisberger on a Jalen Saunders 73-yard punt return. Calvin Pryor and Troy Polamalu both get flagged for defenseless receiver penalizes, leading to a lengthy, entirely fictional explanation of what a "defenseless receiver" is from Boomer Esiason.

BYE WEEK

The Jets will be 5-5 going into the last six games, setting up yet another Save Rex's Job motif around Florham Park. This is your life now, Jets fans. Forever. Learn to embrace it.

Key stats at this point in the season:

Geno Smith--61% passing, 14 TDs, 8 INTs, 4 rushing TDs

Mike Vick--61% passing, 3 TDs, 2 INTs, 2 fumbles.

Chris Johnson--156 carries, 4.2 ypc, 4 TDs

Jace Amaro-- 24 catches, 3 TDs

Eric Decker--44 catches, 580 yards, 4 TDs

Jessie James--Two appearances on The View to discuss dog adoption; drops one track that, when remixed, sounds like a Taylor Swift B-side and thus reaches #86 on Billboard's Hot 100.

Rushing Defense: Ranked #4!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jets @ Buffalo Bills

Result: Bills 24, Jets 13

The Rex Ryan Jets are miserable off of Bye Weeks and Dave and Busters proves to be too enticing yet again.

Jets @ Miami Dolphins

(Monday Night)

Result: Dolphins 35, Jets 32

A Jets-Dolphins game on Monday Night promises to be wild, and Ryan Tannehill actually performs pretty well against the Jets. This will be a fun one that I think goes to the home team on some flukey BS that sticks in your brain for decades.

Jets @ Minnesota Vikings

Result: Vikings 24, Jets 21

Bridgewater vs. Geno will be a great matchup for any and all self-flagellating Jets fans. The Jets passed on Bridgewater as a sign of confidence in Geno, but if Norv Turner can get Bridgewater to simply not suck as a rookie, there will be much hand-wringing for everyone involved in that decision. The Vikings could be a surprise team in the mold of the 09-10 Jets: they have the brash Head coach with the defensive background, the young QB, and a dominant running game. The Jets--flying into Minnesota for a 1 am start on a short week could be in for a beatdown. Getcha cat o' nine tails ready.

Jets @ Tennessee Titans

Result: Jets 24, Titans 10

In one of the more stunning losses of the Jets 2013 season, they got their asses handed to them by Jake Locker and the Tennessee Titans. Though most of that blame fell squarely on a miserable performance by Geno, it still marked the first time in Locker's life where he looked like an NFL QB. I don't think it happens twice.

New England Patriots @ Jets

Result: Jets 19, Pats 17

This will forever become known as The Game That Determines Whether Rex Stays Or Goes, aka The Mehta Poll Game, aka The Game During Which Darrell Bevell Either Updated His Resume Or Deleted It Altogether aka The One Jets Game JiF Actually Watches This Year. The Jets, sitting at 6-8, need this game to save Rex. If they win it, he's here for eternal life. I'd he loses it, he's gone. Bill Belichick, looking at the Big Picture, starts Jimmy Garopollo, allowing Rex to remain as head coach in perpetuity.

[u[Miami Dolphins @ Jets

Result: Dolphins 44, Jets 3

The result doesn't matter because the three things Woody Johnson covets most have been attained: 1. A Manish Mehta Twitter poll will draw 100k respondents, 2. He'll have gotten to refer to Bob Kraft as "Bobby" the week prior, and 3. He'll get some Gatorade spilled on his Armani shoes after announcing Rex is returning.

Final tally: The Jets go 7-9, but it was a gritty 7-9 and Pete Carroll went 7-9 once.

[JoeC36]

4-12

[Better2bgreenthanblue]

Hey at least it's a better season than my punch less Mets or painful to watch Knicks. In such a world close to 500 is alright.

[House Jet]

Very espn-esque, youll be surprised this year

[faba]

You missed one prediction-Darrell Bevill is on call

[Larz]

if rex misses the playoffs, morningwood will be the next HC

[use2Jet]

Jets will win one against the fish, and both against the bills. 9-7

Other than that, you look like Nostradamus

[Bugg]

Jets in this scenario average 18.6 PPG, which AGAIN puts them in 27-30 in PPG. Sounds about right. Don't see them beating the Pats once, nor beating the Broncos.It's fool's gold. But fair to note a Rex team's defense makes things look better than they really are. Figure 5-6 wins at best, unless Wrecks managed to screw up another draft with late season pig lipstick again.

Being ranked #4 in rushing defense in the 2014 NFL is like being the Polish cavalry at the outset of WW2;great at what it does but mostly pointless in the face of what you can expect the opposition to use against you. But Wrecks never fails to mention pointless stats to pretend HIS DEFENSE can stop good offenses who invariably pass well when it matters.

Another season is about to be wasted because the owner likes to pal around with the idiot head coach. Great.

[JustInFudge]

Pete Carrol went 7-9 twice.

[use2Jet]

Jets in this scenario average 18.6 PPG, which AGAIN puts them in 27-30 in PPG. Sounds about right. Don't see them beating the Pats once, nor beating the Broncos.It's fool's gold. But fair to note a Rex team's defense makes things look better than they really are. Figure 5-6 wins at best, unless Wrecks managed to screw up another draft with late season pig lipstick again.

Being ranked #4 in rushing defense in the 2014 NFL is like being the Polish cavalry at the outset of WW2;great at what it does but mostly pointless in the face of what you can expect the opposition to use against you. But Wrecks never fails to mention pointless stats to pretend HIS DEFENSE can stop good offenses who invariably pass well when it matters.

Another season is about to be wasted because the owner likes to pal around with the idiot head coach. Great.

Rexcuse:

It could be worse, we could have Kotite back

[Larz]

Jets in this scenario average 18.6 PPG, which AGAIN puts them in 27-30 in PPG. Sounds about right. Don't see them beating the Pats once, nor beating the Broncos.It's fool's gold. But fair to note a Rex team's defense makes things look better than they really are. Figure 5-6 wins at best, unless Wrecks managed to screw up another draft with late season pig lipstick again.

Being ranked #4 in rushing defense in the 2014 NFL is like being the Polish cavalry at the outset of WW2;great at what it does but mostly pointless in the face of what you can expect the opposition to use against you. But Wrecks never fails to mention pointless stats to pretend HIS DEFENSE can stop good offenses who invariably pass well when it matters.

Another season is about to be wasted because the owner likes to pal around with the idiot head coach. Great.

 

you do realize this is just a guy killing time on the innerwebz, right ?

[Bugg]

you do realize this is just a guy killing time on the innerwebz, right ?

Aren't we all?

[JoeC36]

Pete Carrol went 7-9 twice.

 

Actually 3 times. and 6-10 once

[Sperm Edwards]

Jets in this scenario average 18.6 PPG, which AGAIN puts them in 27-30 in PPG. Sounds about right. Don't see them beating the Pats once, nor beating the Broncos.It's fool's gold. But fair to note a Rex team's defense makes things look better than they really are. Figure 5-6 wins at best, unless Wrecks managed to screw up another draft with late season pig lipstick again.

Being ranked #4 in rushing defense in the 2014 NFL is like being the Polish cavalry at the outset of WW2;great at what it does but mostly pointless in the face of what you can expect the opposition to use against you. But Wrecks never fails to mention pointless stats to pretend HIS DEFENSE can stop good offenses who invariably pass well when it matters.

Another season is about to be wasted because the owner likes to pal around with the idiot head coach. Great.

 

lol

 

So 4 out of 5 seasons under Ryan, the Jets ranked no worse than #6 in pass defense (including #2 in 2012 without Revis).  The 4 years he was DC with Baltimore their pass D finished 8, 6, 20, and 2.  That's 7 of 9 years as DC or HC (where he was still chiefly calling the defensive plays) with a top 10 pass D, and 5 of 8 in the top 6.

 

Then in 2013 the Jets had no Revis again, an injured rookie Milliner, an injured and ineffective Cromartie, and a meh Kyle Wilson.  Did they finish 32nd in the league with all this? No, they finished 22nd.  Bad, but far from the worst in the league.  But to you this obvious atypical season seems to mean that Ryan has no idea that a pass defense is important, as well as the insinuation that he isn't or can't possibly be an effective coach in this area. 

 

Seriously, you should really take a break for a while.  At least until camp starts in a few weeks.  You've gone from merely being someone who doesn't like the coach (which is plenty fair enough, as there's plenty to criticize), and have now entered the realm of delirium secondary to pure white-hot rage.  It's not healthy. 

[Sperm Edwards]

Actually 3 times. and 6-10 once

 

Career loser in the NFL who had 2 more losing seasons in his 3rd stint as head coach.  Clearly, he should have been fired before the 2012 season as he'd demonstrated no tangible improvement as a head coach at that point.  Hell, that March Carroll's/Bevell's big plan to take the next step forward on offense was to give a big contract to Matt Flynn in free agency.  They go to their GM with this plan.

 

A competent GM would have looked at them like they were crazy, passed on signing Flynn, and instead fired them both, right? lol

[use2Jet]

Career loser in the NFL who had 2 more losing seasons in his 3rd stint as head coach. Clearly, he should have been fired before the 2012 season as he'd demonstrated no tangible improvement as a head coach at that point. Hell, that March Carroll's/Bevell's big plan to take the next step forward on offense was to give a big contract to Matt Flynn in free agency. They go to their GM with this plan.

A competent GM would have looked at them like they were crazy, passed on signing Flynn, and instead fired them both, right? lol

At a bare minimum, they understood the importance of the QB position, and kept trying until they found one. Can't find one if you don't prioritize getting one.

[T0mShane]

Career loser in the NFL who had 2 more losing seasons in his 3rd stint as head coach. Clearly, he should have been fired before the 2012 season as he'd demonstrated no tangible improvement as a head coach at that point. Hell, that March Carroll's/Bevell's big plan to take the next step forward on offense was to give a big contract to Matt Flynn in free agency. They go to their GM with this plan.

A competent GM would have looked at them like they were crazy, passed on signing Flynn, and instead fired them both, right? lol

Orrrrrrrrr Pete Carroll took over a program that was 5-11 and 4-12 in the two seasons before he got there, then built it into one of the best teams in the NFL within three years. Not as impressive as taking over a 9-7 team and driving it into a complete rebuild three seasons later, but still...

[JoeC36]

Career loser in the NFL who had 2 more losing seasons in his 3rd stint as head coach.  Clearly, he should have been fired before the 2012 season as he'd demonstrated no tangible improvement as a head coach at that point.  Hell, that March Carroll's/Bevell's big plan to take the next step forward on offense was to give a big contract to Matt Flynn in free agency.  They go to their GM with this plan.

 

A competent GM would have looked at them like they were crazy, passed on signing Flynn, and instead fired them both, right? lol

 

Absolutely should have been fired, still should. Denny Green for Seahawks coach 2015. 

[use2Jet]

Orrrrrrrrr Pete Carroll took over a program that was 5-11 and 4-12 in the two seasons before he got there, then built it into one of the best teams in the NFL within three years. Not as impressive as taking over a 9-7 team and driving it into a complete rebuild three seasons later, but still...

Rexcuse: that was all Tannys fault, Rex bares no blame at all

[Larz]

Aren't we all?

 

yeah, but you were the only one who responded to it like it really happened. 

[SouthernJet]

Last year, when absolutely no one but a few basketball "writers" (aka to Jets/Rex fans as "everyone") were predicting the Jets to win 2 games, I boldly went against the Stephen A. grain and called for a 7-9 season, citing the fact that the Jets would do just enough on defense to make it interesting (and by "interesting," I meant "just good enough to ruin a draft slot"). In sum, I was closer than "everyone."

Without further ado, here is my 2014-2015 season prediction:

Oakland Raiders @ Jets

Result: Jets 27, Raiders 9

The Raiders have historically given the Jets major problems, but this Oakland team is straight trash. Matt Schaub has all the intestinal fortitude of a fainting goat, and Derek Carr won't be ready to compete against an NFL defense like the one Rex will have prepared for this opener. Geno Smith will only throw the ball 17 times, but Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory will combine for 150 yards on the ground. Quentin Coples will have 2 sacks (one coming when Schaub collapses at his feet on a third-and-20 situation). Calvin Pryor will get flagged for his first helmet-to-helmet penalty when he hits James Jones in the lower abdomen too hard in the first quarter.

Jets @ Green Bay Packers

Result: Packers 21, Jets 17

In what will be a pretty sloppy offensive game for both teams, Aaron Rodgers will do just enough to get the Packers a W. Geno Smith will throw a TD pass to Eric Decker in the fourth quarter to get it close, but it won't be enough to overcome his two earlier INT's. Jordy Nelson rolls the Jets corners for 9 catches on the day, and Clay Matthews runs around Breno Giacomini all day long. On the plus side, the front seven pushes around the Packers OL enough to keep Rodgers from getting comfortable.

Chicago Bears @ Jets

(Monday night)

Result: Bears 42, Jets 16

This will be a wheels-fall-off type game similar to the beatdown the Jets received at the hands of the Bengals last season. The Bears have too much size at wideout, and Jay Cutler is too oblivious to get rattled by Rex's defense. On offense, the Jets respond to Geno's "slow start to the season" by floating the possibility of Vick starting at some point ("Boyitellya, he's raring to go"--anonymous quote), which results in nine million QB CIRCUS! storylines in the papers, which then results in an untenable environment for any young QB. Marty Mornhinweg spends the week deflecting Vick questions, up until the third quarter rolls around and Vick takes the field.

Detroit Lions @ Jets

Result: Jets 34, Lions 21

The Rex Jets respond well to public humiliation and short rest, both of which they'll have for this matchup. Matt Stafford is just too dumb to win this game. Geno bounces back, throwing 2 TDs and rushing for 1. Calvin Pryor gets another flag for spearing Reggie Bush, and combines with Dee Milliner to give up a ridiculously easy-looking TD to Megatron. Another good day on the ground for Ivory and Chris Johnson, even though Chris Johnson develops a limp around this point in the season.

Jets @ San Diego Chargers

Result: Chargers 23, Jets 14

The Jets will scrap, but Chris Johnson will miss this game with a hamstring. This will be the first week that we see packages installed for Mike Vick, because that always works. The Chargers hate playing the Jets, but Mike McCoy is slowly filtering the hillbilliness out of Phillip Rivers' game, which should be enough to knock the Jets down here.

Denver Broncos @ New York Jets

Result: Jets 35, Broncos 27

This will be the annual The Game The Jets Shouldn't Win But Do Anyway Game. Geno plays well, Ivory and Powell keep the chains moving, and Peyton Manning gets drilled three times in the first quarter, inciting a billion ESPN mock-debates on the humanity of letting Peyton Manning take the field at his advanced age.

Jets @ New England Patriots

(Thursday night)

Result: Patriots 24, Jets 21

The Jets keep it close, but Mike Vick (in the WildVick package) fumbles late, leading to a Pats field goal that wins the game.

Buffalo Bills @ Jets

Result: Jets 19, Bills 3

Another ugly game, but the Jets bounce back by beating on EJ Manuel. This is a Bills-Jets game, meaning that everyone who watches it comes away from it really depressed, regardless of the outcome.

Jets @ Kansas City Chiefs

Result: Chiefs 36, Jets 3

The Revenge of Bob Sutton Game. Geno, in Arrowhead, trying to complete passes against that Chiefs defense, will look like trash. Alex Smith doesn't turn it over, but the Jets will, leading to an ugly result.

Pittsburgh Steelers @ Jets

Result: Jets 14, Steelers 10

In a game reminiscent of the 1936 Chicago Cardinals v Des Moines Pioneers title match, the Jets nip Ben Roethlisberger on a Jalen Saunders 73-yard punt return. Calvin Pryor and Troy Polamalu both get flagged for defenseless receiver penalizes, leading to a lengthy, entirely fictional explanation of what a "defenseless receiver" is from Boomer Esiason.

BYE WEEK

The Jets will be 5-5 going into the last six games, setting up yet another Save Rex's Job motif around Florham Park. This is your life now, Jets fans. Forever. Learn to embrace it.

Key stats at this point in the season:

Geno Smith--61% passing, 14 TDs, 8 INTs, 4 rushing TDs

Mike Vick--61% passing, 3 TDs, 2 INTs, 2 fumbles.

Chris Johnson--156 carries, 4.2 ypc, 4 TDs

Jace Amaro-- 24 catches, 3 TDs

Eric Decker--44 catches, 580 yards, 4 TDs

Jessie James--Two appearances on The View to discuss dog adoption; drops one track that, when remixed, sounds like a Taylor Swift B-side and thus reaches #86 on Billboard's Hot 100.

Rushing Defense: Ranked #4!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jets @ Buffalo Bills

Result: Bills 24, Jets 13

The Rex Ryan Jets are miserable off of Bye Weeks and Dave and Busters proves to be too enticing yet again.

Jets @ Miami Dolphins

(Monday Night)

Result: Dolphins 35, Jets 32

A Jets-Dolphins game on Monday Night promises to be wild, and Ryan Tannehill actually performs pretty well against the Jets. This will be a fun one that I think goes to the home team on some flukey BS that sticks in your brain for decades.

Jets @ Minnesota Vikings

Result: Vikings 24, Jets 21

Bridgewater vs. Geno will be a great matchup for any and all self-flagellating Jets fans. The Jets passed on Bridgewater as a sign of confidence in Geno, but if Norv Turner can get Bridgewater to simply not suck as a rookie, there will be much hand-wringing for everyone involved in that decision. The Vikings could be a surprise team in the mold of the 09-10 Jets: they have the brash Head coach with the defensive background, the young QB, and a dominant running game. The Jets--flying into Minnesota for a 1 am start on a short week could be in for a beatdown. Getcha cat o' nine tails ready.

Jets @ Tennessee Titans

Result: Jets 24, Titans 10

In one of the more stunning losses of the Jets 2013 season, they got their asses handed to them by Jake Locker and the Tennessee Titans. Though most of that blame fell squarely on a miserable performance by Geno, it still marked the first time in Locker's life where he looked like an NFL QB. I don't think it happens twice.

New England Patriots @ Jets

Result: Jets 19, Pats 17

This will forever become known as The Game That Determines Whether Rex Stays Or Goes, aka The Mehta Poll Game, aka The Game During Which Darrell Bevell Either Updated His Resume Or Deleted It Altogether aka The One Jets Game JiF Actually Watches This Year. The Jets, sitting at 6-8, need this game to save Rex. If they win it, he's here for eternal life. I'd he loses it, he's gone. Bill Belichick, looking at the Big Picture, starts Jimmy Garopollo, allowing Rex to remain as head coach in perpetuity.

[u[Miami Dolphins @ Jets

Result: Dolphins 44, Jets 3

The result doesn't matter because the three things Woody Johnson covets most have been attained: 1. A Manish Mehta Twitter poll will draw 100k respondents, 2. He'll have gotten to refer to Bob Kraft as "Bobby" the week prior, and 3. He'll get some Gatorade spilled on his Armani shoes after announcing Rex is returning.

Final tally: The Jets go 7-9, but it was a gritty 7-9 and Pete Carroll went 7-9 once.

10-6

[Sperm Edwards]

Orrrrrrrrr Pete Carroll took over a program that was 5-11 and 4-12 in the two seasons before he got there, then built it into one of the best teams in the NFL within three years. Not as impressive as taking over a 9-7 team and driving it into a complete rebuild three seasons later, but still...

Except Ryan didn't take over a 9-7 team. He took over a team that went 9-7 the year before, and it's not the same thing.

That 2008 team had Brett Favre at QB and Kris Jenkins as the most important player on defense. But of course you knew this, right?

I mean, with Mangini at the helm, surely the team would have still gone 9-7 with Kellen Clemens instead of Brett Favre, and without a healthy, dominant Kris Jenkins plugging the middle (not to mention a $5M/year DE who started right next to him).

What a silly thing to say. On the one hand, you've clearly taken the position that the QB is supremely important. Then you remove the HOF/pro bowl QB and suggest the team is the same. Oh, and remove the nose tackle from the 2008 team's strict 3-4 defense and say that's the same also. And the team's #1 WR leaves via free agency on top of that.

QB and #1 WR from the prior year gone? Check.

Team's only playmaker on offense breaking his leg after 6 games plus 1 play? Check.

1/3 of the DL off the team outright and another 1/3 playing 5 of the team's 19 games? Check.

T0mShane saying the 2009 team that won 2 playoff games is the same as the 2008 team from a year before? Check.

lolol

[faba]

you do realize this is just a guy killing time on the innerwebz, right ?

Tom had the prediction Rex that would be fired- that has upset him a bit to be wrong.

[T0mShane]

Except Ryan didn't take over a 9-7 team. He took over a team that went 9-7 the year before, and it's not the same thing.

That 2008 team had Brett Favre at QB and Kris Jenkins as the most important player on defense. But of course you knew this, right?

I mean, with Mangini at the helm, surely the team would have still gone 9-7 with Kellen Clemens instead of Brett Favre, and without a healthy, dominant Kris Jenkins plugging the middle (not to mention a $5M/year DE who started right next to him).

What a silly thing to say. On the one hand, you've clearly taken the position that the QB is supremely important. Then you remove the HOF/pro bowl QB and suggest the team is the same. Oh, and remove the nose tackle from the 2008 team's strict 3-4 defense and say that's the same also. And the team's #1 WR leaves via free agency on top of that.

QB and #1 WR from the prior year gone? Check.

Team's only playmaker on offense breaking his leg after 6 games plus 1 play? Check.

1/3 of the DL off the team outright and another 1/3 playing 5 of the team's 19 games? Check.

T0mShane saying the 2009 team that won 2 playoff games is the same as the 2008 team from a year before? Check.

lolol

Mangini took the Herm Edwards Jets to the playoffs with Chad Pennington.

[Sperm Edwards]

Mangini took the Herm Edwards Jets to the playoffs with Chad Pennington.

So did Herm Edwards. Hardly an accomplishment.

Even Herm knew enough to not use Dewayne Robertson as a NT on a 3-man line, and I'm not sure Edwards could count to 4 without clopping his foot on the ground.

[T0mShane]

So did Herm Edwards. Hardly an accomplishment.

Even Herm knew enough to not use Dewayne Robertson as a NT on a 3-man line, and I'm not sure Edwards could count to 4 without clopping his foot on the ground.

I will guarantee you that Herm has a better SAT score than Rex.

Boom

[Jetlife33]

My thoughts: It feels like the Jets always lose to the Steelers, so I think we'll lose that game.I think we'll beat San Diego and split with Miami. I also think the game that everyone expects us to lose and we win is in week 2 vs Green Bay rather than Denver. The deciding factor in my scenario in whether the Jets are 8-8 again or 9-7 is how they handle the Bills.They could upset another team instead, or maybe the Vikings suck with a rookie QB and are an easy W for Rex's D. The Jets will be in contention for a Wild Card spot, imo.

[faba]

Unless Geno shows improvement and limit mistakes we will be stuck in the 8 and 8 range.

[Jetlife33]

Last year, when absolutely no one but a few basketball "writers" (aka to Jets/Rex fans as "everyone") were predicting the Jets to win 2 games, I boldly went against the Stephen A. grain and called for a 7-9 season, citing the fact that the Jets would do just enough on defense to make it interesting (and by "interesting," I meant "just good enough to ruin a draft slot"). In sum, I was closer than "everyone."

Without further ado, here is my 2014-2015 season prediction:

Oakland Raiders @ Jets

Result: Jets 27, Raiders 9

The Raiders have historically given the Jets major problems, but this Oakland team is straight trash. Matt Schaub has all the intestinal fortitude of a fainting goat, and Derek Carr won't be ready to compete against an NFL defense like the one Rex will have prepared for this opener. Geno Smith will only throw the ball 17 times, but Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory will combine for 150 yards on the ground. Quentin Coples will have 2 sacks (one coming when Schaub collapses at his feet on a third-and-20 situation). Calvin Pryor will get flagged for his first helmet-to-helmet penalty when he hits James Jones in the lower abdomen too hard in the first quarter.

Jets @ Green Bay Packers

Result: Packers 21, Jets 17

In what will be a pretty sloppy offensive game for both teams, Aaron Rodgers will do just enough to get the Packers a W. Geno Smith will throw a TD pass to Eric Decker in the fourth quarter to get it close, but it won't be enough to overcome his two earlier INT's. Jordy Nelson rolls the Jets corners for 9 catches on the day, and Clay Matthews runs around Breno Giacomini all day long. On the plus side, the front seven pushes around the Packers OL enough to keep Rodgers from getting comfortable.

Chicago Bears @ Jets

(Monday night)

Result: Bears 42, Jets 16

This will be a wheels-fall-off type game similar to the beatdown the Jets received at the hands of the Bengals last season. The Bears have too much size at wideout, and Jay Cutler is too oblivious to get rattled by Rex's defense. On offense, the Jets respond to Geno's "slow start to the season" by floating the possibility of Vick starting at some point ("Boyitellya, he's raring to go"--anonymous quote), which results in nine million QB CIRCUS! storylines in the papers, which then results in an untenable environment for any young QB. Marty Mornhinweg spends the week deflecting Vick questions, up until the third quarter rolls around and Vick takes the field.

Detroit Lions @ Jets

Result: Jets 34, Lions 21

The Rex Jets respond well to public humiliation and short rest, both of which they'll have for this matchup. Matt Stafford is just too dumb to win this game. Geno bounces back, throwing 2 TDs and rushing for 1. Calvin Pryor gets another flag for spearing Reggie Bush, and combines with Dee Milliner to give up a ridiculously easy-looking TD to Megatron. Another good day on the ground for Ivory and Chris Johnson, even though Chris Johnson develops a limp around this point in the season.

Jets @ San Diego Chargers

Result: Chargers 23, Jets 14

The Jets will scrap, but Chris Johnson will miss this game with a hamstring. This will be the first week that we see packages installed for Mike Vick, because that always works. The Chargers hate playing the Jets, but Mike McCoy is slowly filtering the hillbilliness out of Phillip Rivers' game, which should be enough to knock the Jets down here.

Denver Broncos @ New York Jets

Result: Jets 35, Broncos 27

This will be the annual The Game The Jets Shouldn't Win But Do Anyway Game. Geno plays well, Ivory and Powell keep the chains moving, and Peyton Manning gets drilled three times in the first quarter, inciting a billion ESPN mock-debates on the humanity of letting Peyton Manning take the field at his advanced age.

Jets @ New England Patriots

(Thursday night)

Result: Patriots 24, Jets 21

The Jets keep it close, but Mike Vick (in the WildVick package) fumbles late, leading to a Pats field goal that wins the game.

Buffalo Bills @ Jets

Result: Jets 19, Bills 3

Another ugly game, but the Jets bounce back by beating on EJ Manuel. This is a Bills-Jets game, meaning that everyone who watches it comes away from it really depressed, regardless of the outcome.

Jets @ Kansas City Chiefs

Result: Chiefs 36, Jets 3

The Revenge of Bob Sutton Game. Geno, in Arrowhead, trying to complete passes against that Chiefs defense, will look like trash. Alex Smith doesn't turn it over, but the Jets will, leading to an ugly result.

Pittsburgh Steelers @ Jets

Result: Jets 14, Steelers 10

In a game reminiscent of the 1936 Chicago Cardinals v Des Moines Pioneers title match, the Jets nip Ben Roethlisberger on a Jalen Saunders 73-yard punt return. Calvin Pryor and Troy Polamalu both get flagged for defenseless receiver penalizes, leading to a lengthy, entirely fictional explanation of what a "defenseless receiver" is from Boomer Esiason.

BYE WEEK

The Jets will be 5-5 going into the last six games, setting up yet another Save Rex's Job motif around Florham Park. This is your life now, Jets fans. Forever. Learn to embrace it.

Key stats at this point in the season:

Geno Smith--61% passing, 14 TDs, 8 INTs, 4 rushing TDs

Mike Vick--61% passing, 3 TDs, 2 INTs, 2 fumbles.

Chris Johnson--156 carries, 4.2 ypc, 4 TDs

Jace Amaro-- 24 catches, 3 TDs

Eric Decker--44 catches, 580 yards, 4 TDs

Jessie James--Two appearances on The View to discuss dog adoption; drops one track that, when remixed, sounds like a Taylor Swift B-side and thus reaches #86 on Billboard's Hot 100.

Rushing Defense: Ranked #4!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jets @ Buffalo Bills

Result: Bills 24, Jets 13

The Rex Ryan Jets are miserable off of Bye Weeks and Dave and Busters proves to be too enticing yet again.

Jets @ Miami Dolphins

(Monday Night)

Result: Dolphins 35, Jets 32

A Jets-Dolphins game on Monday Night promises to be wild, and Ryan Tannehill actually performs pretty well against the Jets. This will be a fun one that I think goes to the home team on some flukey BS that sticks in your brain for decades.

Jets @ Minnesota Vikings

Result: Vikings 24, Jets 21

Bridgewater vs. Geno will be a great matchup for any and all self-flagellating Jets fans. The Jets passed on Bridgewater as a sign of confidence in Geno, but if Norv Turner can get Bridgewater to simply not suck as a rookie, there will be much hand-wringing for everyone involved in that decision. The Vikings could be a surprise team in the mold of the 09-10 Jets: they have the brash Head coach with the defensive background, the young QB, and a dominant running game. The Jets--flying into Minnesota for a 1 am start on a short week could be in for a beatdown. Getcha cat o' nine tails ready.

Jets @ Tennessee Titans

Result: Jets 24, Titans 10

In one of the more stunning losses of the Jets 2013 season, they got their asses handed to them by Jake Locker and the Tennessee Titans. Though most of that blame fell squarely on a miserable performance by Geno, it still marked the first time in Locker's life where he looked like an NFL QB. I don't think it happens twice.

New England Patriots @ Jets

Result: Jets 19, Pats 17

This will forever become known as The Game That Determines Whether Rex Stays Or Goes, aka The Mehta Poll Game, aka The Game During Which Darrell Bevell Either Updated His Resume Or Deleted It Altogether aka The One Jets Game JiF Actually Watches This Year. The Jets, sitting at 6-8, need this game to save Rex. If they win it, he's here for eternal life. I'd he loses it, he's gone. Bill Belichick, looking at the Big Picture, starts Jimmy Garopollo, allowing Rex to remain as head coach in perpetuity.

[u[Miami Dolphins @ Jets

Result: Dolphins 44, Jets 3

The result doesn't matter because the three things Woody Johnson covets most have been attained: 1. A Manish Mehta Twitter poll will draw 100k respondents, 2. He'll have gotten to refer to Bob Kraft as "Bobby" the week prior, and 3. He'll get some Gatorade spilled on his Armani shoes after announcing Rex is returning.

Final tally: The Jets go 7-9, but it was a gritty 7-9 and Pete Carroll went 7-9 once.

Hey Tom any predictions on what final stats from the major guys will look like?

[Sperm Edwards]

I will guarantee you that Herm has a better SAT score than Rex.

Boom

I tellyawhat, if you could show this I would turn much harder on Ryan.

Actually it is precisely him NOT being Edwards is why I have had any hope for him. Edwards was bad at everything, except perhaps teaching technique to DBs, which even I'll acknowledge he was probably good at (he was a decent player despite not having the talent a lot of worse players had). But he had no eye for strategy on either side of the ball. I think to Herm, X's and O's are little more than the tools needed to play tic-tac-toe.

My contention with Ryan is that he DOES have this ability.  An ability to outsmart others who are smart themselves. He's gameplanned and outcoached some more accomplished coaches with great and very productive QBs. So unless one believes he is a person is genetically predisposed to an aptitude towards coaching defense but not offense, if one can be learned then so can the other.

Ryan's father was a defensive coach, so it's no surprise that would be Rex's first calling. That he worked his way up the ranks on that side of the ball makes it even more the case. At some point, a coach either becomes a better judge of what he's got on the other side or he doesn't.

I do think a coach like Ryan is a poor match for creeps and douchebags (like Holmes), but donkeydick's prior GM and/or HC in Pittsburgh felt they couldn't control him either. You know they didn't dump him because they thought he wasn't talented enough. With the Jets, Holmes was a model teammate when he was vying for a big contract, and became his usual creepo self when he was rewarded with one that made him un-benchable and un-cuttable. Your hero, Parcells, used to say there were only 2 things that players responded to: job and money. Well in 2011, with a shiny new guaranteed contract, Holmes was in danger of losing neither and I'm quite sure he realized it. Just like Sanchez knew the team had no other option other than himself (until Smith was drafted, and even that was a force-fed competition given how unready Smith was).

 

That being said, if he flops this season, and it's obvious that personnel talent isn't purely the cause, then the team should absolutely move on from Ryan.  I think you'd find few people to disagree with that.

[SouthernJet]

 

 

That being said, if he flops this season, and it's obvious that personnel talent isn't purely the cause, then the team should absolutely move on from Ryan.  I think you'd find few people to disagree with that.

yup

[slats]

Mangini took the Herm Edwards Jets to the playoffs with Chad Pennington.

If Rex had Chad in his first two years, they'd both have Super Bowl rings.

[BroadwayJets]

There is no chance we lose to the fins twice. Stupid. Vikings? Also stupid.

[use2Jet]

If Rex had Chad in his first two years, they'd both have Super Bowl rings.

Laughable

[use2Jet]

I tellyawhat, if you could show this I would turn much harder on Ryan.

Actually it is precisely him NOT being Edwards is why I have had any hope for him. Edwards was bad at everything, except perhaps teaching technique to DBs, which even I'll acknowledge he was probably good at (he was a decent player despite not having the talent a lot of worse players had). But he had no eye for strategy on either side of the ball. I think to Herm, X's and O's are little more than the tools needed to play tic-tac-toe.

My contention with Ryan is that he DOES have this ability. An ability to outsmart others who are smart themselves. He's gameplanned and outcoached some more accomplished coaches with great and very productive QBs. So unless one believes he is a person is genetically predisposed to an aptitude towards coaching defense but not offense, if one can be learned then so can the other.

Ryan's father was a defensive coach, so it's no surprise that would be Rex's first calling. That he worked his way up the ranks on that side of the ball makes it even more the case. At some point, a coach either becomes a better judge of what he's got on the other side or he doesn't.

I do think a coach like Ryan is a poor match for creeps and douchebags (like Holmes), but donkeydick's prior GM and/or HC in Pittsburgh felt they couldn't control him either. You know they didn't dump him because they thought he wasn't talented enough. With the Jets, Holmes was a model teammate when he was vying for a big contract, and became his usual creepo self when he was rewarded with one that made him un-benchable and un-cuttable. Your hero, Parcells, used to say there were only 2 things that players responded to: job and money. Well in 2011, with a shiny new guaranteed contract, Holmes was in danger of losing neither and I'm quite sure he realized it. Just like Sanchez knew the team had no other option other than himself (until Smith was drafted, and even that was a force-fed competition given how unready Smith was).

That being said, if he flops this season, and it's obvious that personnel talent isn't purely the cause, then the team should absolutely move on from Ryan. I think you'd find few people to disagree with that.

There's been plenty of great coordinators who are not very good HCs. I'm not even convinced he is a great defensive guy, good, yes, great? Have not seen it.

I've yet to see him raise the play above the defense above the talent level, he's had very good defensive talent every year he's been a Dc or a HC.