faba Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Rex Ryan No. 16 in NFL.com head coach power rankings Rex Ryan is 42-38 in five seasons the head coach of the Jets. (John Munson/The Star-Ledger) Print By Dom Cosentino | NJ.com Follow on Twitter on July 15, 2014 at 9:00 AM, updated July 15, 2014 at 9:04 AM 0 Reddit Email Rex Ryan's five-year tenure as the Jets' head coach has been up and it's been down: • Back-to-back AFC championship games in his first two seasons. • Three straight years without a playoff appearance. • A 42-38 record that includes two 8-8 seasons. Pretty much mediocre, in other words. But where does Ryan rank among the 32 current NFL headset bosses? Ryan has already been ranked as high as No. 11 (Rotoworld) and as low as No. 17 (Sporting News). And now NFL.com's Elliot Harrison checks in to peg Ryan as No.16. As Harrison put it: He might talk a lot -- OK, he does talk a lot -- but Ryan's tenure has carried much substance, as well. Ryan led New York to two straight AFC Championship Game appearances in his first two years at the helm, but quarterback woes have left Gang Green hovering in mediocrity over the past three seasons. Jets GM John Idzik has exhibited confidence in Ryan, providing him an opportunity to ride it out with either the young Geno Smith or veteran Michael Vick under center. That said, this could be a do-or-die season for the coach. Ryan certainly was hurt by the Jets' quarterbacks and their 59 interceptions the last three seasons, but he was also on board when the Jets traded up to draft Mark Sanchez back in 2009. But then came last year, when an 8-8 season was considered a success as the Jets hit the reset button under then-first-year general manager John Idzik. Is No. 17 too high for Ryan? Or too low? With the additions the Jets made this offseason, 2014 could very well go a long way toward answering both questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Number one in our hearts tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 16 right in the middle- sounds about right to me. Average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
use2Jet Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I agree with this ranking, he is not a bad HC, nor a good one. He is middle of the pack. We could do worse, but I would prefer a better HC. At a minimum, someone who can maximize the QB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I agree with this ranking, he is not a bad HC, nor a good one. He is middle of the pack. We could do worse, but I would prefer a better HC. At a minimum, someone who can maximize the QB position. It would be nice to actually have a QB to maximize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Half a coach, half a ranking. Seems about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
use2Jet Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 It would be nice to actually have a QB to maximize. We have nobody in the organization that can identify, nor develop a QB, unless Marty can do it. I know a lot of fans have high hopes for Marty, and I hope they are correct, I just don't share that same opinion. I think he is clearly better than Schitty or Sporano, but they are not barometers to which I care to compare to. Rex clearly cannot do it, Idzik has zero track record in doing this, so it really comes down to Marty. Marty called to draft Geno, and has spoken highly of him. If Geno sucks this year, or is anything less than decent, we are F'd, because the guy we are counting on to identify and develop a QB, cannot do the job. I dont believe that there is a magic QB fairy that drops QB's on your lap. I think there are the once in a decade guys who are of the Manning, Luck, Elway type cant miss guy, then I think the rest comes to identifying and developing the QB properly, understanding their strengths and weaknesses, and putting them in the best position to succeed. It is not only luck that we have not had a QB since Namth, there is a lot more to it than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 We have nobody in the organization that can identify, nor develop a QB, unless Marty can do it. They also have David Lee, who's a pretty well regarded QB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
use2Jet Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 They also have David Lee, who's a pretty well regarded QB coach. I agree, he is, but I will throw the same thing I said about Marty about Lee. The fact that they did not go after a QB this year other than Boyd tells me that these guys like Geno. I really hope they are right, because if Geno is even decent, I think we compete for the division this year. But if Geno sucks and we see Vick, we are at least 3 years away from right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Top 5 w/ a QB. Top 10 w/out a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaborJet Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 What is Bevell's ranking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I agree, he is, but I will throw the same thing I said about Marty about Lee. The fact that they did not go after a QB this year other than Boyd tells me that these guys like Geno. I really hope they are right, because if Geno is even decent, I think we compete for the division this year. But if Geno sucks and we see Vick, we are at least 3 years away from right now. It tells me they like Geno and/or they didn't like last year's crop all that much. I expected them to take a QB in the fourth or fifth round, and there were still some name guys available then, but the organization felt they weren't worth it for whatever reason. I hopes it's because they like Geno that much (and they're right!), but it could also be that they like the upcoming draft class that much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 What is Bevell's ranking? YOU WATCH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
use2Jet Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 It tells me they like Geno and/or they didn't like last year's crop all that much. I expected them to take a QB in the fourth or fifth round, and there were still some name guys available then, but the organization felt they weren't worth it for whatever reason. I hopes it's because they like Geno that much (and they're right!), but it could also be that they like the upcoming draft class that much more. I agree, and also hope these guys are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaborJet Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 YOU WATCH Tom, I just can't root against the Jets to lose before the first whistle of training camp. He may be a great coach someday, but not here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Tom, I just can't root against the Jets to lose before the first whistle of training camp. He may be a great coach someday, but not here. Never root for losses, I agree. But... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Never root for losses, I agree. Yeah, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 When you have bottom of the league talent, and have a middle of the pack record, you deserve to be higher than #16 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 this team has -6 win talent (which means we won 14 games last year do the math folks) and a GM actively sabotaging the coach, so you tell me how Rex isnt #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 We're number sixteen! We're number sixteen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 this team has -6 win talent (which means we won 14 games last year do the math folks) and a GM actively sabotaging the coach, so you tell me how Rex isnt #1 Could do better, could do worse. At least there's an argument to be made that Idzik made the right choice keeping him around another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 This should be Rex's make it or break year- no playoff appearnce this year and he should be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Who are your all-time best coAches to never have talent? Tough question but hear goes 1. Tony Sparano 2. Rex Ryan 3. Herm Edwards 4. Jim Fassel 5. Jerry Glanville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Wasn't he ranked 16 last year too? Potential back-to-back double-down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 It tells me they like Geno and/or they didn't like last year's crop all that much. I expected them to take a QB in the fourth or fifth round, and there were still some name guys available then, but the organization felt they weren't worth it for whatever reason. I hopes it's because they like Geno that much (and they're right!), but it could also be that they like the upcoming draft class that much more. hard to know. geno showed (barely) enough last year to not completely write him off, i guess, and jets had way too many holes to go for a qb early. so i think not going for a name qb was a combo of having some hope (who knows exactly how much) that geno can develop and having many glaring holes to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 all we really know for sure is if you replace a HC, you always find a better one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
use2Jet Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 all we really know for sure is if you replace a HC, you always find a better one Or one could say , if you have an average coach, you never find a better one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 all we really know for sure is if you replace a HC, you always find a better one #ExtendMangini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 all we really know for sure is if you replace a HC, you always find a better one #BitontiHermDefense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Shaw or Bevell should be top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 #ExtendMangini #BitontiHermDefense or it's good that they are giving stabilty a try this time. I'm happy they are trying to get out of the cycle of rebuilding every 3 years from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 or it's good that they are giving stabilty a try this time. I'm happy they are trying to get out of the cycle of rebuilding every 3 years from scratch. This is exactly what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 if we had a qb worth a damn people would be calling rex ryan a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Jets77 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 if we had a qb worth a damn people would be calling rex ryan a genius. Except he's the biggest reason why our offense sucks. I love how people will make excuses for him about the offense and pretend like he's not the HC. He's the ****in HC. He has more control over the team than anyone not named Woody and we've seen evidence of this is the players the draft, play and who is kept on. The guy is the definition of average. One year we were gifted into the playoffs. Besides that we've made it one time and not a winning season since. Yeah we're so lucky to have him. Jet fans are just so afraid of being wrong and trolls coming on here telling them they were right about Rex that they'll keep him no matter what. Last year wasn't his fault because of the players and weapons. LOL Like he had no control over that. This year we have to give him a full year because of the players and weapons. This will be the 4th year in a row that we haven't had a winning record and no playoffs and I cant wait to hear the excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Rex is now THE reason the Jets offense stinks? It's as if we had a decent offense ever in the decade before Rex came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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