Jetsfan80 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11373673/johnny-manziel-cleveland-browns-extends-middle-finger-washington-redskins Johnny Manziel flips bird to sideline Updated: August 19, 2014, 2:06 AM ET By Pat McManamon | ESPN.com LANDOVER, Md. -- Cleveland Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel extended his middle finger toward the Washington Redskins bench after a third-quarter incompletion during Monday night's 24-23 preseason loss. Manziel flipped the bird toward the Redskins after the play that unfolded in front of Washington's bench. Manziel said he had "words exchanged" with the Redskins and that he should have been smarter. "I felt like I did a good job of holding my composure throughout the night, and you have a lapse of judgment and slip up," Johnny Manziel said of his middle finger to the Redskins in the third quarter. "I felt like I did a good job of holding my composure throughout the night, and you have a lapse of judgment and slip up," Manziel said. Asked in his postgame news conference if he thought it was wrong, Manziel smiled before laughing. "I mean, I didn't think it was positive," Manziel said, before adding he couldn't blame it on distractions, repeating he had simply lost his composure. Manziel was not penalized, though he could have been for unsportsmanlike conduct or taunting. The NFL no doubt will review the tape, and Manziel will be subject to an $11,025 fine. He can appeal his first fine, and it can be limited to 25 percent of a weekly check of close to $6,200. "It did not sit well," Browns coach Mike Pettine said. "I was informed of it after the game and it's disappointing. Because what we talk about is being poised and being focused -- that you have to be able to maintain your poise." The gesture occurred with 2:28 left in the third quarter. "That's a big part of all football players, especially the quarterback, that we have to keep our composure," Pettine said. "So that's something that we'll obviously address with him." On a second-and-7 play, Manziel dropped back, rolled left to escape the rush and threw across his body just before reaching the sidelines. The pass to Jonathan Krause fell incomplete. Manziel may have heard something from the home bench, because as he trotted back to the huddle in the nationally televised game he extended his middle finger over his right shoulder toward the bench. Brian Hoyer, who is competing with Manziel for the starting quarterback job, didn't seem impressed by the gesture. "You've got to know the cameras are always on you," Hoyer said. It wouldn't have been the first time Manziel was mocked by the Redskins. Linebacker Brian Orakpo, who called the middle-finger gesture "hilarious," celebrated a teammate's sack of the quarterback in the first quarter by giving Manziel's Drake/money gesture, for which he is well known. After forcing the Browns to punt with Manziel at quarterback, Orakpo stopped near the yard marker in front of the Redskins sideline and again gave the money sign. Manziel had struggled throughout the game -- going 5-for-13 for 49 yards and one sack before the gesture. He completed the drive after the gesture with a touchdown that came on a short drop pass that Dion Lewis ran into the end zone. "I should have been smarter," Manziel said. "The cameras were solidly on me. I need to be smarter about that." Information from ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter was used in this report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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faba Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 He has a lot of growing up to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 already looks better than Geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 He has a lot of growing up to do. Maybe that will happen some time in a couple of years when him and Tebow have thier own reality show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 already looks better than GenoYou can deal with immaturity. Sucking, not so much.Manziel looked mostly pretty good albeit against the usual collection of soon to be bouncers, garbagemen and car salesmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Was sleeping, did this really happen or did Petine leak it to a reporter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 already looks better than Geno You apparently didn't watch Monday night's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 You can deal with immaturity. Sucking, not so much.Manziel looked mostly pretty good albeit against the usual collection of soon to be bouncers, garbagemen and car salesmen. What game were you watching? He looked terrible? Especially when he was out there against the ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Maybe that will happen some time in a couple of years when him and Tebow have thier own reality show. Johnny Manziel is football's Kenny Powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 thanks isdick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundunit Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I'm excited for him to be the next Ryan Leaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 "I should have been smarter," Manziel said. "The cameras were solidly on me. I need to be smarter about that." The part I love is that he doesn't imply he shouldn't have done it, he implies he should have done it when the cameras weren't on him. ******* moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 You can deal with immaturity. Sucking, not so much.Manziel looked mostly pretty good albeit against the usual collection of soon to be bouncers, garbagemen and car salesmen. Wha? He looked like sh*t. It's amazing to me how what Manziel did last night can "look good" and yet Geno can go 10/13 and WE NEED A QB HTNANKS IDZIK ZOMG!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 Neither Hoyer nor Manziel looked particularly impressive, but only one of those QB's flipped off the Redskin sidelines. This is what we'd be dealing with if it was Geno vs Manziel. Yet we're supposed to be jealous of Cleveland. You know, the franchise with a great history of QB's and a HC that is a Rex disciple. That'll end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Neither Hoyer nor Manziel looked particularly impressive, but only one of those QB's flipped off the Redskin sidelines. This is what we'd be dealing with if it was Geno vs Manziel. Yet we're supposed to be jealous of Cleveland. You know, the franchise with a great history of QB's and a HC that is a Rex disciple. That'll end well. I don't get the Manziel thing right now. He's looked blah. At least talk about Bridgewater who marched his team up and down the field twice, making nice throws the whole way against the Cardinals. I don't love either of them, but if one of them is going to be a player, it'll definitely be Bridgewater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 I don't get the Manziel thing right now. He's looked blah. At least talk about Bridgewater who marched his team up and down the field twice, making nice throws the whole way against the Cardinals. I don't love either of them, but if one of them is going to be a player, it'll definitely be Bridgewater. Manziel perhaps has a higher ceiling than Bridgewater, but Teddy seems like the guy you can plug in right away and he'll start looking like an average NFL QB almost immediately. He has a very high floor for a rookie. I'm with you, I would have been fully on board with taking him at 25, as long as it wouldn't preclude us from going after someone from the 2015 class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 The middle finger was the highlight of his awful performance. This kid is going to suck something awful and be a major head case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 He suddenly became Mike Westhoff's favorite player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 You can deal with immaturity. Sucking, not so much.Manziel looked mostly pretty good albeit against the usual collection of soon to be bouncers, garbagemen and car salesmen. Pretty good? I accepted that when I didn't watch any of the game. I am not accepting that today. He was awful. Bouncing balls, missing guys by 5 feet on 10 yard routes. The one good pass I saw him throw was a zero read to Gordon in the early 4th. God only knows what the 'skins had in at CB at that point. His other completions were dumps and a shovel pass - which got him all of his yardage. The 8 yarder to Gordon and possibly one other were the only passes that were not flat out dump offs. Maybe some day he will be good, but he certainly is not good right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinlawyer Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Honestly, the middle finger is a non issue if he is throwing up nice numbers but given his horrid performance thus far, the finger is how I would rate his chances to be the starting QB. Hoyer hasn't been much better. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Rex Grossman is the Browns best QB. #realtalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 You can deal with immaturity. Sucking, not so much.Manziel looked mostly pretty good albeit against the usual collection of soon to be bouncers, garbagemen and car salesmen. uh what? we saw an average to below average arm, a small guy who scrambles but who doesn't have elite speed, and poor judgment/immaturity. yeah, give that guy the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Manziel looked total lost last night. Arm looks average and the improvation skills were kept in check by the speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I still stand by my initial evaluation, a scrawny douchebag version of Tebow. While Geno is still certainly a big question, I'm still so thrilled this guy isn't on the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Imagine the stories the NY sportwriters would be having now- that alone is enough to rejoice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 uh what? we saw an average to below average arm, a small guy who scrambles but who doesn't have elite speed, and poor judgment/immaturity. yeah, give that guy the franchise. Grass is always greener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Man he would have been a perfect fit for Rex- show him the ropes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 The best part of this are the assholes who are all up in arms over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Pretty good? I accepted that when I didn't watch any of the game. I am not accepting that today. He was awful. Bouncing balls, missing guys by 5 feet on 10 yard routes. The one good pass I saw him throw was a zero read to Gordon in the early 4th. God only knows what the 'skins had in at CB at that point. His other completions were dumps and a shovel pass - which got him all of his yardage. The 8 yarder to Gordon and possibly one other were the only passes that were not flat out dump offs. Maybe some day he will be good, but he certainly is not good right now. You forgot throwing behind everyone on the ones that were in the air ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Wha? He looked like sh*t. It's amazing to me how what Manziel did last night can "look good" and yet Geno can go 10/13 and WE NEED A QB HTNANKS IDZIK ZOMG!!!! Let's compare notes on Geno vs. Manzniel around January 1st or so. Let's see if he comes close to these fantastic numbers- OAK 16-25 219 1td -1int CAR 15-28 167 1td-1int CLE 20-36 214 2tds-0ints MIA 17-27 190 0tds-0ints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Tha's different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Tha's different. tha was fat rex tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Grass is always greener. lol. undersized average QB is undersized average QB. I don't get why people don't get this (not you, I'm just saying). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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