Matt39 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Well Stoic, if it makes you feel any better...if Geno sucks this season Idzik and Rex will probably both be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 What does Jalen Saunders do for a living? Too soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Just think about this objectively for a minute. Take your bias out of it and realize how funny the situation is. Entering the draft, CB #2 and WR #2 are arguably the team's biggest needs. He has 12 draft picks. The draft is arguably the deepest it's ever been at WR, and it's also deep at corner. He uses all 12 picks and still walks away from the draft without answering either of those questions. Idzik did answer the call at Corner with Dexter McDougle, and he picked up Patterson to be a 1 year stop gap until McDougle got that 1st year under his belt. No one saw what occurred coming. Idzik could have drafted Darqueze Dennard and he could have went down with an ACL and it would have been worse if that was the case. Before McDougle's injury the majority of this site was excite to see and hear what McDougle was doing. Besides, It wasn't like we needed another #1 CB. We were looking for a #2 so there was no need to spend our top 2 picks on a corner when we didnt have a #1 safety or a #1 TE, which is what we now have. Pryor will help with with our secondary obviously, Antonio Allen has been rather impressive as well and will probably be a better CB than we expect. Granted, I didnt like the fact that we didnt address WR earlier, but Idzik decided to take care of positions early in the draft that he didnt take care of in free agency (like Safety, TE) and positions that he added to in FA he drafted in later rounds such as WR. Everyone will have their opinion on what we have going into week one, but one thing that I believe everyone will agree on is that as a roster, this team is much better than last years team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Idzik did answer the call at Corner with Dexter McDougle, and he picked up Patterson to be a 1 year stop gap until McDougle got that 1st year under his belt. No one saw what occurred coming. 3, 0, 13, 7, 11, 16, 14, 7, 2, 6 = amount of games Dimitri Patterson has appeared in by year. Relying on him was a huge mistake, he's not even that good when he's healthy (and he's rarely healthy). McDougle... when was the last time he appeared in a game? Over a year ago? Milliner had a lengthy injury history in college. Yeah, no one saw this coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 3, 0, 13, 7, 11, 16, 14, 7, 2, 6 = amount of games Dimitri Patterson has appeared in by year. Relying on him was a huge mistake, he's not even that good when he's healthy (and he's rarely healthy). McDougle... when was the last time he appeared in a game? Over a year ago? Milliner had a lengthy injury history in college. Yeah, no one saw this coming. They weren't relying on him solely, they were relying on 3 CB's actually to take care of the #2 spot. Those names are Dexter McDougle, Dimitri Patterson and Darren Walls. Its only considered a huge mistake because of hindsight, not because of the numbers you put up because those numbers would be okay if you had Walls and McDougle to work with. As of right now we only have Walls, which is why people are calling it a mistake. Every team deals with injuries. And please show me a quote from someone a week after the draft saying that they seen this coming. The only thing spoken of was the fact some people didnt like the fact that Idzik didnt spend money on a #1 CB in free agency or went after Brandon Flowers after the draft, though he's shown that he's not a man-to-man type corner. Its just the hindsight people coming around making noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Dennis Waszak Jr. @DWAZ73 · 31s A sidenote on Walter Powell: He was the Cardinals' primary KO return man, averaging 25.7 yards on 7 returns this summer. #Jets So now we have two exclusive KR's on our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I'm not talking about the bottom of the roster. I'm talking about CB2 and WR2. Who are ours? Antonio Allen and David Nelson? Give me a break. oh ok I thought we were discussing todays koves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 A formative program from my childhood. benny hill and monty python more or less formed my sense of humor. my poor family, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 WR needs - signed the top WR in FA, drafted 3. CB needs - relying on last year's #1 to step it up, signed a stopgap FA, drafted 2. Has it occured to anyone else that in a draft deep at a position or two, it might be better value to draft other positions early, and then double or triple (yum) dip at those so called deep positons later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 The Jalen Saunders pick was so f'ing awful. I really want to like him, but in all honestly there is no way I can get my head around the pick. It is still a WTF? pick to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Dennis Waszak Jr. @DWAZ73 · 31s A sidenote on Walter Powell: He was the Cardinals' primary KO return man, averaging 25.7 yards on 7 returns this summer. #Jets So now we have two exclusive KR's on our roster. Or they will be making another move and Hakim will be cut next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I really want to like him, but in all honestly there is no way I can get my head around the pick. It is still a WTF? pick to me. They were thinking Leon Washington version II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I really want to like him, but in all honestly there is no way I can get my head around the pick. It is still a WTF? pick to me. I didn't care for it either, but thought that if we were drafting him solely as a PR it could make sense. It's a high friggin pick to use on a PR, Buuuuut if he's the most amazing one in the world I could understand it. So far, I haven't been blown away by his punt returns either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 They weren't relying on him solely, they were relying on 3 CB's actually to take care of the #2 spot. Those names are Dexter McDougle, Dimitri Patterson and Darren Walls. a journeyman, 3rd rd rookie who played 2 games last year, and an UDFA who has never been a contributor in his career. Is that really the plan you are defending? that isn't even mentioning Wilson who is in desperate need of an upgrade. there is not a quality starter in that bunch of 4 CBs. Jets had a chance at Revis for $13M, Davis for 10M, or DRC for 8M. Instead we overpaid for Patterson and now have nothing. This team isn't that bad but you have to put an NFL caliber CB on the field if you want to be an NFL GM. It's not like the team is strapped for cash either. What good is the $21M of unused space going to do this weekend vs. the Raiders or the following Sunday vs. the Packers? Wouldn't $11M of cap space + #24 (revis not patteson) look pretty good out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 WR needs - signed the top WR in FA, drafted 3. CB needs - relying on last year's #1 to step it up, signed a stopgap FA, drafted 2. Has it occured to anyone else that in a draft deep at a position or two, it might be better value to draft other positions early, and then double or triple (yum) dip at those so called deep positons later? It's this whole common sense thing that some people here seem to lack and constantly complain about our lack of CBs because our top 2 guys got hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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