Steveg Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The play began with Geno Smith in the shotgun, and with Ivory as the lone setback. When the ball was snapped, Jets left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson took a step back as he readied to block Khalil Mack, the outside linebacker the Raiders took fifth overall in this year's draft. But Mack made an inside move and had a chance to blow up the play in the backfield. "It was weird because D’Brickashaw had a great game," Ryan said. "He was outstanding, but on [that] one he whiffed and the guy beat him inside." Mack dived and tried to trip Ivory, but Ivory hurdled his arm. And just as Ivory did this, the Jets' inside linemen—left guard Brian Winters, center Nick Mangold, right guard Willie Colon—all sealed off defenders with a push to the left, with Mangold clearing out inside linebacker Miles Burris. "Chris kept hitting it in there," Ryan said, "and sure enough he hit it quick, so that [Mack] really was a non-factor on the play, where clearly with any hesitation whatsoever he would have blown the play up." As he reached the line of scrimmage, Ivory took a quick step to his right to find a hole behind Colon. After getting past the line, safety Charles Woodson and linebacker Sio Moore were there to greet Ivory. But Jets right tackle Breno Giacomini got to Moore just before Moore and Woodson could get to Ivory. Giacomini effectively took Moore and Woodson out of the play and created a pileup with Ivory right there. Just as this happened, safety Tyron Branch—who had blitzed and was now trailing the play—tried to tackle Ivory from behind as Ivory ran around the pileup. No chance. In the top right corner of the above photo, you can also see wideout Jeremy Kerley throwing a block that helped keep Ivory free. "We had some good blocks obviously by Mangold and Winters and Willie on that, and particularly the inside guys," Ryan said. "But we also had good blocks down the field. Great job by Jeremy Kerley sealing his guy off and then Chris really did the rest." Ivory cut back to his left and had nothing in front of him. He looked back across his right shoulder and then he left shoulder as he crossed midfield. As Ivory got to about the 40-yard line, he raised his left index finger in the air to celebrate, but quickly put it back down. He later admitted he probably shouldn't have done that. There was still work to do. Ivory kept churning, and soon enough, cornerback T.J. Carrie was able to catch him. Carrie finally got a hand on Ivory inside the10, but Ivory was still moving. Carrie dragged him down, but by then Ivory had reached the goal line. There were no flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveg Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Sorry, I meant Ivory's ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 That is alright Steveg... It was a good analysis of Ivory's TD run. Can the mods fix the title of this post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Nice job by Breno there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I know its the Raiders, but our OL was a big concern heading into the season. Colon's penalties is the biggest problem now, but it appears that cohesiveness of the unit as a whole after the snap and the progress of Brian Winters are legit positives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I know its the Raiders, but our OL was a big concern heading into the season. Colon's penalties is the biggest problem now, but it appears that cohesiveness of the unit as a whole after the snap and the progress of Brian Winters are legit positives. Yep. Winters was solid. Breno too...he had Tuck for most of the game. Cut down on the flags, which they will and the OL could very well turn out to be a strength of the team. They've got another juicy match up this week too. The Jets should be able to run wild because the only real threat on that D is the pass rush ability of Matthews and to a less extent these days, Peppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yep. Winters was solid. Breno too...he had Tuck for most of the game. Cut down on the flags, which they will and the OL could very well turn out to be a strength of the team. They've got another juicy match up this week too. The Jets should be able to run wild because the only real threat on that D is the pass rush ability of Matthews and to a less extent these days, Peppers. Step 1: Run the ball in Peppers' direction every single time. Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I know its the Raiders, but our OL was a big concern heading into the season. Colon's penalties is the biggest problem now, but it appears that cohesiveness of the unit as a whole after the snap and the progress of Brian Winters are legit positives. Agreed, Winters looked much improved. Great to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Step 1: Run the ball in Peppers' direction every single time. Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit. Yep...except Step 2 is hit them with that play action. Seattle was killing them with it. They're not a talented secondary...small CB's matched up vs. our big receivers. This game is really about how the Jets secondary holds up vs. Rodgers because really, everything else favors the Jets. Unfortunately, that Rodgers dude is enough to overcome those factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yep...except Step 2 is hit them with that play action. Seattle was killing them with it. They're not a talented secondary...small CB's matched up vs. our big receivers. This game is really about how the Jets secondary holds up vs. Rodgers because really, everything else favors the Jets. Unfortunately, that Rodgers dude is enough to overcome those factors. Yeah. Intangibles are the 2nd biggest factor. No matter how many advantages we seem to have I really can't see Green Bay falling to 0-2 at home. Stranger things have happened but Rodgers is easily good enough to win this game for them no matter how many points our offense puts up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I know its the Raiders, but our OL was a big concern heading into the season. Colon's penalties is the biggest problem now, but it appears that cohesiveness of the unit as a whole after the snap and the progress of Brian Winters are legit positives. Colon's contract clock is ticking. Next year he'll be playing for someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yeah. Intangibles are the 2nd biggest factor. No matter how many advantages we seem to have I really can't see Green Bay falling to 0-2 at home. Stranger things have happened but Rodgers is easily good enough to win this game for them no matter how many points our offense puts up. Agreed. I dont see a possible scenario where he doesnt go off and get them to 1-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I know its the Raiders, but our OL was a big concern heading into the season. The people who were concerned about the Jets OL are the people who are always concerned about the Jets OL. They are a good group. I've been saying it forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The people who were concerned about the Jets OL are the people who are always concerned about the Jets OL. They are a good group. I've been saying it forever. Except when you told us up and down how badly we'd miss Brandon Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The people who were concerned about the Jets OL are the people who are always concerned about the Jets OL. They are a good group. I've been saying it forever. They're a better group than the ones who are concerned about our Corners every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Except when you told us up and down how badly we'd miss Brandon Moore. the Brian Winters rookie year experience wasn't exactly smooth sailing, was it? Winters played well week 1, building on his excellent week 17 last year. Maybe he's turned a corner it should also be noted Aboushi appears to be next in line for Colon, should he get injured or whatever. A benching is unlikely but feasible if the penalties continue. More likely he takes over when Colon moves on after the season. Aboushi had a strong preseason and should be fine when (not if) he starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 the Brian Winters rookie year experience wasn't exactly smooth sailing, was it? Winters played well week 1, building on his excellent week 17 last year. Maybe he's turned a corner it should also be noted Aboushi appears to be next in line for Colon, should he get injured or whatever. A benching is unlikely but feasible if the penalties continue. More likely he takes over when Colon moves on after the season. Aboushi had a strong preseason and should be fine when (not if) he starts. The Jets a a couple of Guards in for tryouts yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Cool breakdown. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 the Brian Winters rookie year experience wasn't exactly smooth sailing, was it? No but he clearly learned a lot on the job. Do you think his play would be better or worse right now if Moore had come out of retirement and started all 16 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 No but he clearly learned a lot on the job. Do you think his play would be better or worse right now if Moore had come out of retirement and started all 16 games? Clearly the experience did help him. they did miss Moore. both statements are true all that aside, the Jets line is among the better groups in the league. top third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Winters played well week 1, building on his excellent week 17 last year. 2-time Jets left guard of the week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Great stuff, thank you for the breakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yep. Winters was solid. Breno too...he had Tuck for most of the game. Cut down on the flags, which they will and the OL could very well turn out to be a strength of the team. They've got another juicy match up this week too. The Jets should be able to run wild because the only real threat on that D is the pass rush ability of Matthews and to a less extent these days, Peppers. Yep I say we give them both a dose of Ivory/Johnson . Steam roll the both of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The people who were concerned about the Jets OL are the people who are always concerned about the Jets OL. They are a good group. I've been saying it forever. You've been saying it since an abysmal Vlad Ducasse, mediocre Austin Howard, Turnstile Wayne Hunter, Slow as molasses Slauson and green Brian Winters, with a dash of -30 yards/game from Willie Colon. Those who were concerned about the Jets Oline the last two or three years had every right to be concerned. This year, there is less concern because we drafted some linemen that can contribute, and picked up some depth along the way. Breno looks like an as-good-or-better replacement for Howard and Winters is maturing into an NFL Guard. As bad a job Idzik did with the CB's, he did well with the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 You've been saying it since an abysmal Vlad Ducasse, mediocre Austin Howard, Turnstile Wayne Hunter, Slow as molasses Slauson and green Brian Winters, with a dash of -30 yards/game from Willie Colon. Those who were concerned about the Jets Oline the last two or three years had every right to be concerned. This year, there is less concern because we drafted some linemen that can contribute, and picked up some depth along the way. Breno looks like an as-good-or-better replacement for Howard and Winters is maturing into an NFL Guard. As bad a job Idzik did with the CB's, he did well with the OL. The only drafted OL player was Dozier...not sure if he's ready to contribute and the only other addition that is different from a depth perspective from last season is Dalton Freeman and we're in trouble of he's playing. The OL was always fine like Bit said, people just werent patient with Winters. He wasnt nearly as bad as everyone around here makes him about to be, go figure...and now he's steady progressing. Throw in a more mature QB, better weapons and thats the reason for the lack of concern. The only real difference between last year and this is Breno replacing Howard. Otherwise, its the same unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 The only drafted OL player was Dozier...not sure if he's ready to contribute and the only other addition that is different from a depth perspective from last season is Dalton Freeman and we're in trouble of he's playing. The OL was always fine like Bit said, people just werent patient with Winters. He wasnt nearly as bad as everyone around here makes him about to be, go figure...and now he's steady progressing. Throw in a more mature QB, better weapons and thats the reason for the lack of concern. The only real difference between last year and this is Breno replacing Howard. Otherwise, its the same unit. Winters is rounding into shape. I just said that. He was also DRAFTED. As was Aboushi. And Dozier. The OL wasn't always fine. We had absolutely no depth until last year's draft and now have Aboushi and Dozier and a few others who can hold the fort if need be. I actually liked Winters last year. Judging a rookie OL in his first season is silly. You just hope they can improve and learn and mesh with the existing OL as they gain more experience. Winters is doing that. So yeah, less concern. If he was Vlad II, that would be of more concern. Shedding Hunter, picking up Colon, also good moves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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