Jet Nut Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 nypost.com/2014/09/10/why-the-...am-in-new-york/ Jets fans wondering if their team actually is any good can take solace in this: At least you don’t root for the Giants. For the first time since Christmas Eve 2011, it is clear the Jets are the best football team in town. Was the 19-14 win over the Raiders sloppy? Absolutely. Do the Raiders stink? Of course. But if you watched both the Jets and Giants play this week, it is clear the Jets are New York’s only hope of having a playoff team. If you have any doubt, ask yourself this: If the two teams were stocks, which one would you buy? The Jets have the best defensive front seven east of Seattle, a two-pronged rushing attack that will give defensive coordinators fits, a suddenly confident quarterback and a few weapons for him to target. The Giants offense looks like a tourist in Times Square trying to find his way around town. Eli Manning looks lost, the offensive line can’t block and the rebuilt secondary was torn apart by the Lions in the 35-14 loss Monday night. Jets coach Rex Ryan can crow about being the big brother around here again. During his first two seasons here, Ryan’s Jets overshadowed the Giants with two runs to the AFC title game. Everything changed on Dec. 24, 2011, when Victor Cruz raced past Kyle Wilson, Antonio Cromartie and Eric Smith on his way to a 99-yard touchdown just before halftime that erased a 7-3 Jets lead on the way to a 29-14 Giants win, sending the two teams in vastly different directions. The Giants won the Super Bowl six weeks later while the Jets imploded. The following year the Jets got Tebow, went 6-10, then underwent radical changes. The Giants missed the playoffs, but at 9-7 were still clearly superior. Last year, even as the Giants started off 0-6, it was clear the Jets were a middling team and never a real threat to make the playoffs. The Jets ended up 8-8 and the Giants 7-9, but both teams were just mediocre. Now, the Jets have moved back ahead. This is not just based on Sunday’s win over a rookie quarterback. It’s based on evaluating the two rosters. The Jets clearly are better in several areas, especially up front. The defensive line comparison has done a complete 180-degree turn in the past few years. The Giants once set the standard for defensive line play during their Super Bowl runs, when they seemed to have endless pass rushers. The Jets have thrown first-round picks at defensive linemen for three straight years and now have the best run-stuffing group in the NFL. The Giants now have Jason Pierre-Paul and a bunch of guys. Muhammad Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson lead a Jets group that looks unstoppable at times. The Jets’ offensive line pushed around the Raiders on Sunday and kept quarterback Geno Smith off the turf for most of the day. If this group wipes out the penalties, it could be one of the league’s best. The Giants’ offensive line could get Manning killed. At running back, the tandem of Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory looks like everything the Jets imagined in the offseason. Rashad Jennings had a nice preseason for the Giants, but behind that line, it’s hard to imagine him putting up big numbers. Then there’s the quarterback. Though no one can say Smith is better than Manning yet, it is fair to ask whom you would rather have right now. Smith is 23 and looks more confident than he did all of his rookie year. Manning is 33 and looks as uncertain as he has been since his rookie year. When Smith throws an interception, you say he’s learning. When Manning does, you think he’s done. Smith also can create plays with his legs, something Manning is incapable of. When a pass play breaks down, Smith still can get you a first down. Like their two teams, one quarterback’s stock is going up while the other’s is falling. About the only area where the Giants have an advantage is in the secondary, and even that did not look too good Monday night. I might owe Jets general manager John Idzik an apology if Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie continues to play like that. The two teams don’t meet on the field this regular season — the next matchup comes in 2015 — so this debate won’t be settled there. But we will see in four months whether there is playoff talk around here. If there is, you can bet Ryan and the Jets will be the ones doing the talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Blame it on Idzik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Clearly a bad hire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I might owe Jets general manager John Idzik an apology if Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie continues to play like that. Good read overall, but this line in particular gave me a good chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Sweet! Maybe when the Jets fire Rex, we can hire Coughlin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Considering we are the only team NOT listed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Blame it on Idzik Yup, we should totally start sucking his dick now that The Post published an article saying the Jets are better than a horrible football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 1-2-3--NOT IT !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundunit Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The tides turn oh so quickly when it comes to New York Journalism. First the Jets sucks because we have no secondary and our QB is probably the worst starting QB in the NFL. Then we have one regular season game, our defense is dominant, our offensive line could be one of the best in the league and our QB is growing. Oh and everything about the Giants sucked and their QB is done. It's all a joke and not worth the read. It's all sensational writing that doesn't actually display football knowledge. Do I think the Giants are bad? Yes, but I've thought that from watching the preseason. Do I think the Jets are playoff contender? Yes, but I've thought that from watching the preseason. All these writers either refuse to acknowledge these things over time or just like to generate huge swings of emotions. All these writers suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yup, we should totally start sucking his dick now that The Post published an article saying the Jets are better than a horrible football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yup, we should totally start sucking his dick now that The Post published an article saying the Jets are better than a horrible football team. The point you're trying to make here is that his post is the completely absurd over-reaction? Yeah, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I hated it in 2010 and we were the team to root for. All the fair weather fans made me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yup, we should totally start sucking his dick now that The Post published an article saying the Jets are better than a horrible football team. Wasn't quite the response I was looking for but feel free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Considering we are the only team NOT listed... Used to have Nassau before the team decided to abandon LI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrunder Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 This is GREAT news!!! Can someone send me a link to the address for the parade? I want to make sure I don't miss it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I hated it in 2010 and we were the team to root for. All the fair weather fans made me sick. me too, me fckn too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The point you're trying to make here is that his post is the completely absurd over-reaction? Yeah, ok. Absurd? No. A little pre-mature, yeah. But hey, you're the semantics expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Wasn't quite the response I was looking for but feel free Not your post but if you want to go ahead, you first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The point you're trying to make here is that his post is the completely absurd over-reaction? Yeah, ok. LOL Like he wasn't trying to make a ridiculous point in his post, right? Oh, I see you type two words and its not absurd. Got it. I guess it would have been better and more accurate if I would have typed "let's not go congratulating Mr. Idzik just yet", right?, go **** yourself. I was talking to him, not you. The only difference in our two posts was that I said exactly what I meant and he went passive aggressive and only alluded to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yup, we should totally start sucking his dick now that The Post published an article saying the Jets are better than a horrible football team. Not your post but if you want to go ahead, you first. Dumb. LOL Like he wasn't trying to make a ridiculous point in his post, right? Oh, I see you type two words and its not absurd. Got it. I guess it would have been better and more accurate if I would have typed "let's not go congratulating Mr. Idzik just yet", right?, go **** yourself. I was talking to him, not you. The only difference in our two posts was that I said exactly what I meant and he went passive aggressive and only alluded to something. I really do not see any rational basis for this estrogen lined overreaction. Unless Idzik forcibly cuckolds you every weekend and ball gags you while taking your significant other from behind i really do not understand the basis of your overreaction. Maybe he uses the business end of a plunger on you. If he really does any of that then you have my and this boards sincerest sympathies and yeah eff Idzik. We are with you man. Otherwise your over reactions makes zero sense. Enjoy the rest of your day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I really do not see any rational basis for this estrogen lined overreaction. Unless Idzik forcibly cuckolds you every weekend and ball gags you while taking your significant other from behind i really do not understand the basis of your overreaction. Maybe he uses the business end of a plunger on you. If he really does any of that then you have my and this boards sincerest sympathies and yeah eff Idzik. We are with you man. Otherwise your over reactions makes zero sense. Enjoy the rest of your day. Dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Dumb. Weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 If you have any doubt, ask yourself this: If the two teams were stocks, which one would you buy? Still probably the Giants.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 LOL Like he wasn't trying to make a ridiculous point in his post, right? Oh, I see you type two words and its not absurd. Got it. I guess it would have been better and more accurate if I would have typed "let's not go congratulating Mr. Idzik just yet", right?, go **** yourself. I was talking to him, not you. The only difference in our two posts was that I said exactly what I meant and he went passive aggressive and only alluded to something. Thanks for proving my point. His post wasn't directed at you, but it didn't stop you, now did it? If you don't want anyone else responding to your little tantrums then perhaps stick to PMs and keep your homoerotic infatuation with the GMs dick to yourself. Either that or accept the fact that when you try to call someone out for something you're just as guilty of, you're bound to get the same, and quite deservedly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I might owe Jets general manager John Idzik an apology if Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie continues to play like that. Don't worry, half of Jets nation might owe Idzik an apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Thanks for proving my point. His post wasn't directed at you, but it didn't stop you, now did it? If you don't want anyone else responding to your little tantrums then perhaps stick to PMs and keep your homoerotic infatuation with the GMs dick to yourself. Either that or accept the fact that when you try to call someone out for something you're just as guilty of, you're bound to get the same, and quite deservedly so. What are you, his big brother? And no, that's not it at all. You're ******* wrong. Let him call me out what is it your ******* job? Unless you're infatuated with the GM's dick, which compelled you to say something, you should have shut the **** up and kept out of it, you ******* washer woman. "quite deservedly so" ******* Hallway monitor. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Weak. Still pretty dumb. You took a tabloid article and used it as proof that your ball washing of the GM was right. That was my point. What was yours? Go ask your boyfriend if you need help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 So, yeah, I think the Jets are better right now, but it's a silly, knee-jerk article to write at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 So, yeah, I think the Jets are better right now, but it's a silly, knee-jerk article to write at this point. That's what I said, in Brooklynese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Don't worry, half of Jets nation might owe Idzik an apology. Only half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Only half? We both know the deal. I was being "nice". lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 We both know the deal. I was being "nice". lol Yeah, save the mean streak for when it's needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 We both know the deal. I was being "nice". lol I said that DRC was a flake and that the Giants will regret that contract as soon as next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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