RutgersJetFan Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Put 2 and 2 together here. Why even bother with the math? The ******* idiot texted Rice all this sh*t after the video broke on TMZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Why even bother with the math? I don't know. Don't see why its even a question that this is a big deal. It's certainly not making something out of a non-story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Put 2 and 2 together here. They saw the video from the start. So how else did Rice suddenly go from being a quality citizen and one worth protecting to the most evil of villains in all of this? He was the face of the Ravens, but the moment the video went public and he no longer was marketable, they decided to make him the scapegoat. Everyone saw the first video. Everyone knew what happened. The second video re-fanned the flames even worse and the Ravens and the league were forced to cave. There was nothing they could do anymore. You're making this cover up all in your head. Biscotti offered him a job after his career was over- basically par for the course for every player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I don't know. Don't see why its even a question that this is a big deal. It's certainly not making something out of a non-story. It isn't. It's not. And it's not you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Everyone saw the first video. Everyone knew what happened. The second video re-fanned the flames even worse and the Ravens and the league were forced to cave. There was nothing they could do anymore. They knew what happened from the start yet clamored for Rice to receive the lightest of penalties, while some in the Ravens org wanted him cut immediately. They only made him the villain after the public outcry. Then lied about what they knew and when they knew it. But yeah, keep thinking this is a non-story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 They knew what happened from the start yet clamored for Rice to receive the lightest of penalties, while some in the Ravens org wanted him cut immediately. They only made him the villain after the public outcry. Then lied about what they knew and when they knew it. But yeah, keep thinking this is a non-story. Everyone knew what happened from the start lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It isn't. It's not. And it's not you. Well that's good to know. I could have sworn all of this was in the article and quite easy to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Everyone knew what happened from the start lol. That's not helping your case. Like, at all. Since they knew it all since February, he should have been cut in February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Everyone knew what happened from the start lol. the funniest part is that if the NFL had just suspended Rice 6+ games in the first place, none of this would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 That's not helping your case. Like, at all. You still haven't made a case detailing where this cover up was, considering the Ravens saw the first tape when everyone else did and Rice admitted to knocking her out. How does one cover up something that the public already had full access to via videotape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 the funniest part is that if the NFL had just suspended Rice 6+ games in the first place, none of this would have happened. This is 100% true. Rice's history of being a good guy in the community and have zero transgressions prior to this was the worst thing that could have happened to the league or the Ravens. They bought his and his wife's story about it being a one time thing infused by alcohol and to go lightly on them. The league agreed and it was bad. If Goodell's dumbass just suspended Rice for half the season all of this sh*t goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Well that's good to know. I could have sworn all of this was in the article and quite easy to understand. It's very easy to understand. Extremely easy to understand. That's why none of this thread is remotely surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 You still haven't made a case detailing where this cover up was, considering the Ravens saw the first tape when everyone else did and Rice admitted to knocking her out. How does one cover up something that the public already had full access to via videotape? The public didn't have access until Sept 8th via TMZ. The Ravens and law enforcement had access since February. Yet the penalty went from 2 games (pre-TMZ) to indefinite (post-TMZ) on Sept 8th. It's quite clear what happened here. The Ravens wanted to protect their star RB until it was unmarketable to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The second video did show things the first didn't. Like that Janay was not so inebriated that she half passed out on her own. That was open to question after the first video, not a question after. We saw on the second video an alert woman having an argument with her fiance/husband, her coming over to him to continue the argument, and getting a haymaker on the jaw. It did change things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The public didn't have access until Sept 8th via TMZ. The Ravens and law enforcement had access since February. Yet the penalty went from 2 games (pre-TMZ) to indefinite (post-TMZ) on Sept 8th. It's quite clear what happened here. The Ravens wanted to protect their star RB until it was unmarketable to do so. And that's a cover up how? Everyone knew Rice knocked her out prior to seeing the second video. Rice admitted to hitting his wife rendering her unconscious. The second video re-started the story back up and Rice's image fell right back to square one. His image was tarnished after the first video was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Man. What a meltdown. This is pretty hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Man. What a meltdown. This is pretty hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The second video did show things the first didn't. Like that Janay was not so inebriated that she half passed out on her own. That was open to question after the first video, not a question after. We saw on the second video an alert woman having an argument with her fiance/husband, her coming over to him to continue the argument, and getting a haymaker on the jaw. It did change things. Would agree, however Rice admitted to knocking her out in the police report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I don't think you read the OTL report. I get it, its long and you don't care. But basically the Ravens offered Ray Rice a job in their front office if he stays quiet and takes the fall for everything. The NFL and the Ravens were untruthful about every step in this process. The Ravens did everything in their power to keep Rice from getting a heavy legal punishment and a lengthy suspension from the NFL. But when the video was released, suddenly it was Rice who had lied and they threw him under the bus. If they had simply admitted they bungled this it would have gone away much quicker. But as is always the case, the coverup is ALWAYS worse than the actions themselves. anybody put their name to those accusations ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 the funniest part is that if the NFL had just suspended Rice 6+ games in the first place, none of this would have happened. Which is a little sad to think about, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Which is a little sad to think about, isn't it? He must have figured that everyone would be cool with everything because of being able to figure all of this out for themselves. Classic Roger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 He must have figured that everyone would be cool with everything because of being able to figure all of this out for themselves. Classic Roger. I like my oligarchs to be unethical and arrogant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I like my oligarchs to be unethical and arrogant. AND SO HELP ME GOD THEY BETTER NOT BE ABLE TO ******* READ OR DO MATH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 anyone else remember Ravenssuck.com? miss that site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 sorry, I can't care anymore was anyone mystified as to how his fiance became knocked out in the elevator ? this is all so ******* stupid Well it was pretty obvious he knocked her out in the elevator. The way he dragged her out of the elevator like she was a used piece of luggage was the telling point that he clocked her. Had she fainted, wouldn't he have picked up her in a concerned manner and got her out of there without the door hitting her leg and calling for help? Before they went into the elevator, he even spit on her. They were feuding big time. The Ravens and the NFL stuck their foot up their collective azzes. They should have just come clean, immediately....fined, suspened, cut, whatever and made some contributions to DV and moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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