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Geno was a risk worth taking, imo.  We didn't bet the future on him, and Tom Brady was a 6th so why not roll the dice?

If we free up tons of cash and suck hard enough for good draft picks, we might end up in a position to snag a top QB should one come up.

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Geno was a risk worth taking, imo. We didn't bet the future on him, and Tom Brady was a 6th so why not roll the dice?

If we free up tons of cash and suck hard enough for good draft picks, we might end up in a position to snag a top QB should one come up.

but the sky is falling NOW, Jerry. we NEED to bench Geno so impressive winner Michael Vick can lead us to the promised land.

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Picking Smith was fine, a reasonable risk.Playing Smith beyond this season, that would be a failure in judgement.

That's probably true.

Another failure of this draft was not taking a QB earlier. There were a lot of QBs available in the fourth or fifth rounds. The pick they used on Jeremiah George could've instead been used on Murray, McCarron, or Mettenberger.

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That's probably true.

Another failure of this draft was not taking a QB earlier. There were a lot of QBs available in the fourth or fifth rounds. The pick they used on Jeremiah George could've instead been used on Murray, McCarron, or Mettenberger.

 

I was a big proponent of taking McCarron at some point in this draft. I really would have liked a more serious potential development guy than Taj Boyd. 

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That's probably true.

Another failure of this draft was not taking a QB earlier. There were a lot of QBs available in the fourth or fifth rounds. The pick they used on Jeremiah George could've instead been used on Murray, McCarron, or Mettenberger.

But they had Tajh Boyd cued up in the tank. Tajh Boyd. 

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I was a big proponent of taking McCarron at some point in this draft. I really would have liked a more serious potential development guy than Taj Boyd.

I liked Mettenberger. But the fact is that those are three big names with genuine development potential at the most important position on the field -a position of need- and they passed on them for a slow LB who didn't make the team.

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But they had Tajh Boyd cued up in the tank. Tajh Boyd.

I know, I know. The infamous Rex Ryan pick. Oh the horror and the waste of a sixth round comp pick.

Fact is that Idzik is the boss. He could've told him no in the draft room and taken the QB he liked best in the fourth or fifth round.

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I know, I know. The infamous Rex Ryan pick. Oh the horror and the waste of a sixth round comp pick.

Fact is that Idzik is the boss. He could've told him no in the draft room and taken the QB he liked best in the fourth or fifth round.

 

I'm not sure about that. No one seems to know whether most HCs typically get a late round pick, whether it is in Rex's contract, or whether Woody told Tanny and now Idzik, "Rex gets a late round pick."

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I'm not sure about that. No one seems to know whether most HCs typically get a late round pick, whether it is in Rex's contract, or whether Woody told Tanny and now Idzik, "Rex gets a late round pick."

I'm sure about it.

Even if that pick had Ryan's name on it, he could've taken a different QB in the fourth or fifth round. It's not like there was any guarantee Boyd was gonna be there at the 213th pick of the draft, anyway.

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I'm sure about it.

Even if that pick had Ryan's name on it, he could've taken a different QB in the fourth or fifth round. It's not like there was any guarantee Boyd was gonna be there at the 213th pick of the draft, anyway.

 

I didn't mean who was selected, I'm questioning whether Idzik has the power to tell Rex he isn't getting to make his pick this year.

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I know, I know. The infamous Rex Ryan pick. Oh the horror and the waste of a sixth round comp pick.

Fact is that Idzik is the boss. He could've told him no in the draft room and taken the QB he liked best in the fourth or fifth round.

But Tajh Boyd, Clemson. Tajh Boyd. 

 

As Rex told us, "He has a little bit of magic in him".

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I didn't mean who was selected, I'm questioning whether Idzik has the power to tell Rex he isn't getting to make his pick this year.

IMHO, that's a conspiracy theory/whine that only exists on this message board.

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IMHO, that's a conspiracy theory/whine that only exists on this message board.

 

Conspiracy theory? I'm asking why Rex gets to make a pick. I really don't know. Is it from his contract? Edict from Woody? Custom in the NFL that a HC gets one pick a year? Just asking a question, if you don't know the answer that is ok, I still like you.

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Conspiracy theory? I'm asking why Rex gets to make a pick. I really don't know. Is it from his contract? Edict from Woody? Custom in the NFL that a HC gets one pick a year? Just asking a question, if you don't know the answer that is ok, I still like you.

If Rex gets a pick every year, who was his pick in 2013? Sheldon Richardson? After the first round, they went offense the rest of the way.

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If Rex gets a pick every year, who was his pick in 2013? Sheldon Richardson? After the first round, they went offense the rest of the way.

 

Rex picked offense with John Connor and Tajah, don't know who 2013 was. It's a late round pick he gets.

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Rex picked offense with John Connor and Tajah, don't know who 2013 was. It's a late round pick he gets.

So Rex has been here for six years, and there are two later round picks attributed to him, therefore he gets one pick every year?

This is why I think this is just a complaint that has no basis in fact. Richardson was attributed to Rex until he was awesome, then he was all of a sudden Idzik's pick. People connect dots that aren't there.

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So Rex has been here for six years, and there are two later round picks attributed to him, therefore he gets one pick every year?

This is why I think this is just a complaint that has no basis in fact. Richardson was attributed to Rex until he was awesome, then he was all of a sudden Idzik's pick. People connect dots that aren't there.

 

It isn't a complaint. I read that Rex "usually" gets a pick each year (I know, I know, BUTZ TEH MEDIA IS LIERS!!?*!##). As far as I know, we all have the same sources of information here, except maybe Max who has more access to the team than we do. I am curious how that came about, that's all. When Tanny was GM, I assumed it was Tanny's choice to give him one. But now that the tradition apparently has continued, I am curious if it is contractual, Woody's decision, or Idzik just decided to let it continue.

 

"The Jets usually let head coach Rex Ryan make one personal, hand-picked selection in every draft. This year, Ryan went with Boyd, who played with Ryan's son Seth at Clemson, where Seth is a walk-on wide receiver."

 

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/09/tajh_boyd_rex_ryans_hand-picked_draft_choice_joins_start-up_league_called_fxfl.html

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It isn't a complaint. I read that Rex "usually" gets a pick each year (I know, I know, BUTZ TEH MEDIA IS LIERS!!?*!##). As far as I know, we all have the same sources of information here, except maybe Max who has more access to the team than we do. I am curious how that came about, that's all. When Tanny was GM, I assumed it was Tanny's choice to give him one. But now that the tradition apparently has continued, I am curious if it is contractual, Woody's decision, or Idzik just decided to let it continue.

 

"The Jets usually let head coach Rex Ryan make one personal, hand-picked selection in every draft. This year, Ryan went with Boyd, who played with Ryan's son Seth at Clemson, where Seth is a walk-on wide receiver."

 

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/09/tajh_boyd_rex_ryans_hand-picked_draft_choice_joins_start-up_league_called_fxfl.html

Yeah, but as far as anyone really knows, usually = 1/3 of the time. If you think this author knows more than that, why not send him a tweet and see if he can let you in on all of Rex's selections over the years. As far as I can recall, only two of them are public knowledge, the rest is speculation.

And now I'm bored with this conversation, so please feel free to have the last word. I was never all that hung up on the 11th of 12 draft picks this year, anyway. It'd be more of an issue if Idzik hit on his 11. He fell far short, and the 213th pick was unlikely to move this draft into positive territory.

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Yeah, but as far as anyone really knows, usually = 1/3 of the time. If you think this author knows more than that, why not send him a tweet and see if he can let you in on all of Rex's selections over the years. As far as I can recall, only two of them are public knowledge, the rest is speculation.

And now I'm bored with this conversation, so please feel free to have the last word. I was never all that hung up on the 11th of 12 draft picks this year, anyway. It'd be more of an issue if Idzik hit on his 11. He fell far short, and the 213th pick was unlikely to move this draft into positive territory.

 

Last word? Who is debating anything? I asked a question based on a media report (there are corroborating reports but I am not writing a thesis here). Not sure what your anxiety is over. It is easy to say "media usually has it wrong" in response to a media report, and that's the route you've taken and that's fine. But there was never a debate--that requires two participants.

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Not much crappier than 6th round QBs. 

 

To be fair, none of us know if Mettenberg or McCarron are ever gonna be anything either. There was a reason both were drafted outside the first three rounds.

 

Could be that going into the draft Idzick only had them rated slightly higher than Boyd but not by so much as he saw either as a must have guy. So, knowing that they were likely taking Boyd later on he took a shot on a LB and it didn't pan out. 

 

Come back to me in five years if McCarron or Mettenberg are on their way to their third Pro Bowl. Barring that, I can't really muster any outrage over it. 

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That's probably true.

Another failure of this draft was not taking a QB earlier. There were a lot of QBs available in the fourth or fifth rounds. The pick they used on Jeremiah George could've instead been used on Murray, McCarron, or Mettenberger.

 

 

No doubt about it. I wanted us to grab Garrapolo or Savage personally. I don't pretend to be a scout, but when I pieced together the names getting traction from respectable franchises with QB guru's on staff, it lead me to those 2 guys going onto my wish list. 

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