WickedAwesome Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Suddenly lacks of words. Now GFY! No, it's just ridiculous that you can call the Patriots "cheaters" but can't even explain why. You just say "use your common sense" instead of simply explaining the process you think the Patriot sideline and booths were going through during games between the play clock. It's just funny. The Patroits never broke any GAME rules. It was a violation of league rules. There is a pretty significant difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 No, it's just ridiculous that you can call the Patriots "cheaters" but can't even explain why. You just say "use your common sense" instead of simply explaining the process you think the Patriot sideline and booths were going through during games between the play clock. It's just funny. The Patroits never broke any GAME rules. It was a violation of league rules. There is a pretty significant difference. You are a born douchebag. So you do not have to try extra hard in that department. Now all thru this you sound so hollow. Its like even you want to convince yourself that the Pats Championships were not tainted. You could try somethings like repeat it 100 times in a row very quickly that the Pats did not cheat. You could whisper that to yourself every waking hour of the day or even holler in the middle of the town square. Whatever helps you convince yourself. But whatever option you choose to convince yourself, one thing you have to do as a prerequisite. You need to get your head out of your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The Pats cheated, got away with it, and it helped them win super bowls. And the NFL covered it up and destroyed the tapes. Nobody destroys tapes unless they are hiding something. It really is that simple. But the Pats have been to multiple super bowls since, been to many AFC Championship games and won plenty of division titles. So yeah they haven't won a super bowl since, but it's not like Peyton Manning has won 10 super bowls since 2004 or Aaron Rodgers wins every year either. It is what it is, but it is odd that people ignore the fact Mangini was a part of the cheating Patriot organization and people welcomed him with open arms in NY when he became HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Clemmens, Pettite, Posada, A-Rod....to name a few....but the question should be - how many pro athletes do not use PED's? I have not kept up with all the info on these scandals. OP was talking about the late 90's the championships that Yankees won. They won in 1996, 98, 99. And Pettite did not do drugs then. He only did in Houston IIRC in 2004/5. Neither did Posada. They both were part of the Core 4 and made their debuts in the 1995/96 and did not do drugs in the late 90's. IIRC Clemens also think did not do drugs in the late 90s. He just came to Yankees to get a Championship because he could not get one in Boston. SO he signed up with the Yankees after a two year stint with the Blue Jays. A-Rod was not on the team in the late 90's. So yeah those late 90's championships teams were clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I'd rather the Fins lose. The Pats fans down here aren't that bad. The ones on this site however are a bunch of assholes. When on a NY Jets site try to act like its members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 When on a NY Jets site try to act like its members. Better yet, go to your own ******* team's site. I have zero desire to be on another team site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Oh, New York. Sweet, sweet New York. You are one marvelous town, you know that? You’ve got culture, restaurants, hustle, bustle, Broadway, sports, parks — you’ve got everything, and it’s delightful. But unfortunately you also have the New York Post, and with it, legions of angry, bitter and misguided Jets fans. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/13/new-york-reporter-drums-up-spygate-in-anticipation-of-jets-patriots-game/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Better yet, go to your own ******* team's site. I have zero desire to be on another team site. Im here until Thursday. How many TDs so you think Geno will throw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/13/new-york-reporter-drums-up-spygate-in-anticipation-of-jets-patriots-game/ That article sums up everything about Spygate. That the Pats somehow "cheated" to win multiple SuperBowls is a bigger conspiracy theory than Castro assassinating Kennedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 You know, we've been accused of a lot of things here on Jet Nation. But what's funny is that for all the cries of "delusional" and for all the times we've been told to "take off the green-colored glasses," nothing, not one thing ever said by any Jets fan comes close to the delusional homerism displayed by the Pats fans on this site whenever the Pats propensity for cheating is discussed. Can any of you ******* people read? Do any of you have to capacity to employ logic in your thought processes? My favorite is this - Pats fans love to tell you how incredibly awesome a coach Bill Belichick is and how much he knows about football and how he's forgotten more about football than any Jets coach will ever know, yet none of them can give you a logical explanation as to why this football "genius" continued to do this for close to a decade in spite of their claim that it "didn't really help him all that much." So suddenly, when it comes to filming other coaches signals, they now know more about football than their genius head coach. I would like one you sycophantic, mouth-breathing sh*t zippers to answer this one question for me: What possible sense does it make for Bill Belichick to have filmed other coaches' signals for close to a decade, which by his own admission he did, if "it didn't help him all that much?" I eagerly await your response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 So strange...so much the Pats were doing to cheat that I'd forgotten how elaborate it was. I'd read that quote from Flutie years ago when he talked about being able to hear transmissions right up until the snap but I'd honestly forgotten about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Im here until Thursday. How many TDs so you think Geno will throw? 1 TD 3 turnovers - 1 lost fumble 2 ints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 You know, we've been accused of a lot of things here on Jet Nation. But what's funny is that for all the cries of "delusional" and for all the times we've been told to "take off the green-colored glasses," nothing, not one thing ever said by any Jets fan comes close to the delusional homerism displayed by the Pats fans on this site whenever the Pats propensity for cheating is discussed. Can any of you ******* people read? Do any of you have to capacity to employ logic in your thought processes? My favorite is this - Pats fans love to tell you how incredibly awesome a coach Bill Belichick is and how much he knows about football and how he's forgotten more about football than any Jets coach will ever know, yet none of them can give you a logical explanation as to why this football "genius" continued to do this for close to a decade in spite of their claim that it "didn't really help him all that much." So suddenly, when it comes to filming other coaches signals, they now know more about football than their genius head coach. I would like one you sycophantic, mouth-breathing sh*t zippers to answer this one question for me: What possible sense does it make for Bill Belichick to have filmed other coaches' signals for close to a decade, which by his own admission he did, if "it didn't help him all that much?" I eagerly await your response. An hour and twenty minutes later and no answer from a Chowd. What a ****in' stunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 An hour and twenty minutes later and no answer from a Chowd. What a ****in' stunner. This is a major point - BB NEVER would waste his time and energy on something meaningless. It gave them an edge - they found a way. It's unfortunate. The fact that they destroyed tapes and paper evidence(which was never seen by reporters) only opens the seriousness to further conjecture which only made things worse. They should have had an independent review and come clean. Instead the shroud of secrecy only magnifies (justifiably so) the potential seriousness of their actions whether they be true or not. Big mistake - if I were the Patriots and there was nothing to see i would have demanded a "fair" trial and make the evidence public to clear their name. Didn't happen. Guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Another point - I read (but cannot for the life of me find the source) that evidence was destroyed on site by the person heading the investigation WITHOUT review by the NFL. But this will have to remain as conjecture for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 From NYT in 2008: In the meeting with Specter on Wednesday, and when addressing reporters afterward, Goodell said that the notes dated to 2002. The reason that there were so few tapes, presumably, was because others had been previously discarded or recorded over. The materials were destroyed in Foxborough, Mass., where the Patriots are based, by two league vice presidents, Jeff Pash and Ray Anderson. They were never brought back to NFL headquarters for formal review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 This was obviously damage control and no desire to honestly assess what was done. Goodell was playing the good soldier protecting his buddy Kraft and protecting the 'integrity' of the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 You know, we've been accused of a lot of things here on Jet Nation. But what's funny is that for all the cries of "delusional" and for all the times we've been told to "take off the green-colored glasses," nothing, not one thing ever said by any Jets fan comes close to the delusional homerism displayed by the Pats fans on this site whenever the Pats propensity for cheating is discussed. Can any of you ******* people read? Do any of you have to capacity to employ logic in your thought processes? My favorite is this - Pats fans love to tell you how incredibly awesome a coach Bill Belichick is and how much he knows about football and how he's forgotten more about football than any Jets coach will ever know, yet none of them can give you a logical explanation as to why this football "genius" continued to do this for close to a decade in spite of their claim that it "didn't really help him all that much." So suddenly, when it comes to filming other coaches signals, they now know more about football than their genius head coach. I would like one you sycophantic, mouth-breathing sh*t zippers to answer this one question for me: What possible sense does it make for Bill Belichick to have filmed other coaches' signals for close to a decade, which by his own admission he did, if "it didn't help him all that much?" I eagerly await your response. Still waiting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta14 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Still waiting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Answer the question please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta14 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Answer the question please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 You know, we've been accused of a lot of things here on Jet Nation. But what's funny is that for all the cries of "delusional" and for all the times we've been told to "take off the green-colored glasses," nothing, not one thing ever said by any Jets fan comes close to the delusional homerism displayed by the Pats fans on this site whenever the Pats propensity for cheating is discussed. Can any of you ******* people read? Do any of you have to capacity to employ logic in your thought processes? My favorite is this - Pats fans love to tell you how incredibly awesome a coach Bill Belichick is and how much he knows about football and how he's forgotten more about football than any Jets coach will ever know, yet none of them can give you a logical explanation as to why this football "genius" continued to do this for close to a decade in spite of their claim that it "didn't really help him all that much." So suddenly, when it comes to filming other coaches signals, they now know more about football than their genius head coach. I would like one you sycophantic, mouth-breathing sh*t zippers to answer this one question for me: What possible sense does it make for Bill Belichick to have filmed other coaches' signals for close to a decade, which by his own admission he did, if "it didn't help him all that much?" I eagerly await your response. If I was a mod, I would start banning a Chowd an hour until I got an acceptable answer. We'd be down six of those pricks already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 So you can't answer that question then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta14 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 So you can't answer that question then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 If I was a mod, I would start banning a Chowd an hour until I got an acceptable answer. We'd be down six of those pricks already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Again, as one who loves to portray themselves as someone who possesses superior football knowledge why can't you answer this question? If taping other teams' coaches sending in signals didn't help the Pats win, why the **** would Belichick do it for so long? He admitted doing it. What was the reason if he gained no advantage from it? You are the self-professed football expert. Please educate us lowly Jets fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 You know, we've been accused of a lot of things here on Jet Nation. But what's funny is that for all the cries of "delusional" and for all the times we've been told to "take off the green-colored glasses," nothing, not one thing ever said by any Jets fan comes close to the delusional homerism displayed by the Pats fans on this site whenever the Pats propensity for cheating is discussed. Can any of you ******* people read? Do any of you have to capacity to employ logic in your thought processes? My favorite is this - Pats fans love to tell you how incredibly awesome a coach Bill Belichick is and how much he knows about football and how he's forgotten more about football than any Jets coach will ever know, yet none of them can give you a logical explanation as to why this football "genius" continued to do this for close to a decade in spite of their claim that it "didn't really help him all that much." So suddenly, when it comes to filming other coaches signals, they now know more about football than their genius head coach. I would like one you sycophantic, mouth-breathing sh*t zippers to answer this one question for me: What possible sense does it make for Bill Belichick to have filmed other coaches' signals for close to a decade, which by his own admission he did, if "it didn't help him all that much?" I eagerly await your response. Still waiting for one of you frittatas to answer the ******* question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 You know, we've been accused of a lot of things here on Jet Nation. But what's funny is that for all the cries of "delusional" and for all the times we've been told to "take off the green-colored glasses," nothing, not one thing ever said by any Jets fan comes close to the delusional homerism displayed by the Pats fans on this site whenever the Pats propensity for cheating is discussed. Can any of you ******* people read? Do any of you have to capacity to employ logic in your thought processes? My favorite is this - Pats fans love to tell you how incredibly awesome a coach Bill Belichick is and how much he knows about football and how he's forgotten more about football than any Jets coach will ever know, yet none of them can give you a logical explanation as to why this football "genius" continued to do this for close to a decade in spite of their claim that it "didn't really help him all that much." So suddenly, when it comes to filming other coaches signals, they now know more about football than their genius head coach. I would like one you sycophantic, mouth-breathing sh*t zippers to answer this one question for me: What possible sense does it make for Bill Belichick to have filmed other coaches' signals for close to a decade, which by his own admission he did, if "it didn't help him all that much?" I eagerly await your response. It's been a day. A day in a week where the Jets are playing the Past so I know you ****ers are on here. Your silence speaks volumes. You can't answer this question because even attempting to do so would be to admit the uncomfortable truth to yourselves - THE PATS ARE FRAUD. BELICHICK IS A FRAUD. BRADY IS A FRAUD. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 More like Anger Salesman, am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 More like Anger Salesman, am I right? I'm not angry at all. I love getting to expose hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 More like Anger Salesman, am I right? I hate you, but that's pretty damn funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I hate you, but that's pretty damn funny. I consider you a close, personal friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta14 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I'm not angry at all. I love getting to expose hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Why did Belichick film coaches' signals for a decade if it didn't help him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I consider you a close, personal friend. It's amazing how two people can look at the same situation and come away with two completely different observations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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