SMC Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 btw the Harrison twins are an embarrassment.They were shooting Cole Aldrich airballs at end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I thought it was telling kentucky didn't pound it into towns at the end. maybe he isn't a good free throw shooter or maybe he doesn't have a reputation foe being clutch maybe UK had a brain fart but to me that's one more nail in his coffin as the best prospect in this draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I thought it was telling kentucky didn't pound it into towns at the end. maybe he isn't a good free throw shooter or maybe he doesn't have a reputation foe being clutch maybe UK had a brain fart but to me that's one more nail in his coffin as the best prospect in this draft It's because the Harrison twins are selfish children. Towns is an excellent free throw shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 It's because the Harrison twins are selfish children. Towns is an excellent free throw shooter.Yeah, one of Towns' attributes is his good FT shooting. Besides the Harrison twins being dumbasses, I think it was a coaching issue. Calipari has never been known as a good in-game coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Yeah, one of Towns' attributes is his good FT shooting. Besides the Harrison twins being dumbasses, I think it was a coaching issue. Calipari has never been known as a good in-game coach. The twins were benched at the start of the second half for whatever reason. Cal's never been a great in game coach...I thought Wisconsin would win that game though. They rarely take bad shots or make mistakes. Close game under 2 minutes you have to figure Wisconsin will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 The twins were benched at the start of the second half for whatever reason. Cal's never been a great in game coach...I thought Wisconsin would win that game though. They rarely take bad shots or make mistakes. Close game under 2 minutes you have to figure Wisconsin will win.Completely agree. Plus, Wisconsin being good outside shooters was a key. The National title game will be fun to watch. I'm wondering if Duke will finally get caught being only 8 deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Chances we draft the guy Melo wants more? I'm thinking Okafor would demand more touches than Towns....so I'm sure he'll be lobbying to draft Towns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Completely agree. Plus, Wisconsin being good outside shooters was a key. The National title game will be fun to watch. I'm wondering if Duke will finally get caught being only 8 deep. If Winslow plays like he did yesterday Duke wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 It's because the Harrison twins are selfish children. Towns is an excellent free throw shooter. Yeah, one of Towns' attributes is his good FT shooting. Besides the Harrison twins being dumbasses, I think it was a coaching issue. Calipari has never been known as a good in-game coach. k txs. I think the duncan comparison is a fair one for okafor wouldn't that be nice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I don't understand the Duncan comparison. It's a one-year guy and a finished product. Okafor's scoring compares favorably, at least with respect to Duncan at the same age, but literally everything else is not even close. Doesn't really seem like a useful frame of reference. I like Okafor better as I have been saying all along, but this idea that it's not even close is silly. Towns's WP projection is roughly equivalent to Anthony Davis's. #2 is still a home run here. #3 is still a calamity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Winslow is the most impressive player. Towns would be fine. Cauley Stine sucks. Okafor is good...just dont know if he's athletic enough for his moves to work in the league. Winslow is going to get overdrafted on a good tournament and disappoint. Cauley-Stein had a bad game, but that was the first one I saw this year. I don't think either Towns or Okafor is notably great or awful athletically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I don't understand the Duncan comparison. It's a one-year guy and a finished product. Okafor's scoring compares favorably, at least with respect to Duncan at the same age, but literally everything else is not even close. Doesn't really seem like a useful frame of reference. And yet, we live in a world where players still have to play on the court. In that regard, they look pretty damn similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 And yet, we live in a world where players still have to play on the court. In that regard, they look pretty damn similar. What's the gravity like on this world that's got a court where Okafor plays defense like Tim Duncan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 What's the gravity like on this world that's got a court where Okafor plays defense like Tim Duncan? Do we really have to do the thing where people have to clarify that they mean it on the offensive side? Seems pretty obvious to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 We said it before but it bears repeating, the comparison to Duncan is always on the offensive end. Plus, Duncan wasn't Duncan offensively or defensively at 19 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Winslow is going to get overdrafted on a good tournament and disappoint. Cauley-Stein had a bad game, but that was the first one I saw this year. I don't think either Towns or Okafor is notably great or awful athletically. WCS brings nothing offensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 WCS brings nothing offensively Jump shooting is for losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Great National title game. Okafor was held down by foul trouble but came through in end. Jones was huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 ARRRREEE...YOOOOOUUU...NOT ENTERTAINED??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Let's see where the ping pong balls fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Okafor got schooled by Kaminsky. Schooled. And 4 of his points were right place, right time points....not earned. Give me Towns, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Okafor got schooled by Kaminsky. Schooled. And 4 of his points were right place, right time points....not earned. Give me Towns, please. I have nothing against Okafor and think he will be a good pro. I just don't see him and Melo co-existing and defensively the team would still be lacking. Again we have no idea how the lottery plays out with our luck we'll be picking 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Okafor got schooled by Kaminsky. Schooled. And 4 of his points were right place, right time points....not earned. Give me Towns, please. Okafor is a champion and you're a loser, just like Towns. Kidding on the Towns part. My top 4 wishlist is: 1) Okafor 2) Towns 3) Russell 4) Mudiay I will be happy as hell with any of these 4 picks. Knicks NEED to lose out these last 4 to secure the top lottery seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I have nothing against Okafor and think he will be a good pro. I just don't see him and Melo co-existing and defensively the team would still be lacking. Again we have no idea how the lottery plays out with our luck we'll be picking 5th. Melo will be irrelevant to the Knicks plans going forward so I don't think whether he can or cannot co-exist with a prospect is in the discussion. The Knicks 1st rounder, if top 2, will be the unquestioned star of the team. If Melo tries to muscle his way in he'll get vilified by the media and that will negatively impact his branding. This is far different than Linsanity because that was a gimmick. Jax already said that a top pick changes a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Melo will be irrelevant to the Knicks plans going forward so I don't think whether he can or cannot co-exist with a prospect is in the discussion. The Knicks 1st rounder, if top 2, will be the unquestioned star of the team. If Melo tries to muscle his way in he'll get vilified by the media and that will negatively impact his branding. This is far different than Linsanity because that was a gimmick. Jax already said that a top pick changes a franchise. There's a part of me that thinks Melo still has some influence. Considering the no trade clause, I'm probably right. If Melo's making the call we're taking Towns most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 There's a part of me that thinks Melo still has some influence. Considering the no trade clause, I'm probably right. If Melo's making the call we're taking Towns most likely. You may be right, but the explosion of the cap next year changes everything. Don't be surprised if there are rumblings about Melo getting traded. No trade clauses get waived all the time. Even KG did it to go to Minny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 You may be right, but the explosion of the cap next year changes everything. Don't be surprised if there are rumblings about Melo getting traded. No trade clauses get waived all the time. Even KG did it to go to Minny. KG isnt a taste maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Melo will be irrelevant to the Knicks plans going forward so I don't think whether he can or cannot co-exist with a prospect is in the discussion. The Knicks 1st rounder, if top 2, will be the unquestioned star of the team. If Melo tries to muscle his way in he'll get vilified by the media and that will negatively impact his branding. This is far different than Linsanity because that was a gimmick. Jax already said that a top pick changes a franchise. Melo has 4 years, $100 million remaining on his deal and a no trade clause. Even if he waives the no-trade the team trading for him has to an extra $20 million. He is absolutely relevant to all future plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Melo has 4 years, $100 million remaining on his deal and a no trade clause. Even if he waives the no-trade the team trading for him has to an extra $20 million. He is absolutely relevant to all future plans. With the explosion of the cap, that extra $20 million will be easily absorbed. We'll see how it plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 very disheartened by okafor. that was one of the worst defensive rebounding performances I can remember by a big man in a big game. he stood around watching while kaminsky and friends got 2nd chance points couldn't keep the tank out of the lane missed at least 3 point blank shots at this point I hope the knicks fall to 3rd and take that PG from china Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 at this point I hope the knicks fall to 3rd and take that PG from china We are definitely falling to third, getting stuck with poop, and Towns and Okafor will wind up hall of famers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 We are definitely falling to third, getting stuck with poop, and Towns and Okafor will wind up hall of famers. nah. towns is soft and okafor is lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 nah. towns is soft and okafor is lazy luckily they're only 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 luckily they're only 18. I was in better shape than okafor when I was 14 he had to take a breather after jogging for 5 minutes. that includes commercials and whistles. He didn't bother defending kaminsky beyond the elbows, just threw up a token hand to try to make it look good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I was in better shape than okafor when I was 14 he had to take a breather after jogging for 5 minutes. that includes commercials and whistles. He didn't bother defending kaminsky beyond the elbows, just threw up a token hand to try to make it look good Wait, Larz, are you saying you're draft eligible??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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