New York Mick Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 If the Jets end the season on a win streak and look like they're going the right directions, Rex stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 If the Jets end the season on a win streak and look like they're going the right directions, Rex stays. So, for the 2nd year in a row, the Jets win some absolutely meaningless games in December, and that demonstrates Rex is a good HC and should stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 So, for the 2nd year in a row, the Jets win some absolutely meaningless games in December, and that demonstrates Rex is a good HC and should stay?in woodys head yes, that and it will save him money, worst case scenario but very possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 So, for the 2nd year in a row, the Jets win some absolutely meaningless games in December, and that demonstrates Rex is a good HC and should stay? You're obviously obsessed with the Jets so you should already know the answer to that. It doesn't matter if he should stay or not, it's the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Do you think Woody would reward a HC who goes 4 straight years without making the playoffs? Yes Rex keeps the Jets in the news. Even at 1 - 6 theyre a big story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 With the talent this defense has, its massively underperforming. 1 interception on the season? I mean come on... Who was playing in the secondary for the Chiefs and Dolphins yesterday? There really isn't any talent past the DLine, though. So I'm not sure who you expect to be getting picks. They have by far, bar none the worst starting corners in the leagues with 2 in the box safeties. Davis is good I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Only Jets fans, at 1-6, on the heels of three straight non-winning seasons, would actively look for routes to keep the coach. You really do deserve what you get every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 There really isn't any talent past the DLine, though. So I'm not sure who you expect to be getting picks. They have by far, bar none the worst starting corners in the leagues with 2 in the box safeties. Davis is good I guess. Case in point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Rex doesn't survive but if you forced me to give a record, if he goes 8-8 he's back. I guess there is outside chance if some how they look really good and go 7-9, maybe he's back. He's not though. So one else will be hired to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Case in point You're an idiot. He's a 100% fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 There really isn't any talent past the DLine, though. So I'm not sure who you expect to be getting picks. They have by far, bar none the worst starting corners in the leagues with 2 in the box safeties. Davis is good I guess. We're on pace to shatter the record for fewest turnovers forced in a season. That's coaching more than talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 We're on pace to shatter the record for fewest turnovers forced in a season. That's coaching more than talent. Look at what the Dallas Cowboys have done with a few street level free agents and some mid round draft picks. While their defense is not "elite" it is enough to win them games, play cohesively as a unit and force turnovers. The Jets meanwhile play like separate units that seemingl have no idea of responsibilities of each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Look at what the Dallas Cowboys have done with a few street level free agents and some mid round draft picks. While their defense is not "elite" it is enough to win them games, play cohesively as a unit and force turnovers. The Jets meanwhile play like separate units that seemingl have no idea of responsibilities of each other It seems like Rex wants all the credit winning with defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfrantik Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Hate to break it to most of you, but Rex has already survived. He got the vote of confidence 2, maybe 3 weeks ago. Thats why Idsuck was able to bring in someone like Harvin, knowing Rex can deal with him next year as well. How you like them apples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 It seems like Rex wants all the credit winning with defense.ive been saying this for years, IMO Rex would rather lose a game 6-3 than win it 41-40...I don't care if I sound crazy by saying it I'll go to my grave believing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Hate to break it to most of you, but Rex has already survived. He got the vote of confidence 2, maybe 3 weeks ago. Thats why Idsuck was able to bring in someone like Harvin, knowing Rex can deal with him next year as well. How you like them apples? Mid-season votes of confidence are often the pre-cursor of doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrunder Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 ive been saying this for years, IMO Rex would rather lose a game 6-3 than win it 41-40...I don't care if I sound crazy by saying it I'll go to my grave believing that. Yup, I completely agree with this. I think this is the root of his problem. I think it actually stems back from the 85 Bears. The Ryan family has always felt slated that they did not get the real credit for that team, as the defense was dominating and the offense was really just decent. But the offense got most of the credit, and so did Ditka. I really think that this was Buddy's problem as a HC, and he has passed it on to Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Mid-season votes of confidence are often the pre-cursor of doom Yeah, whatever anyone says right now...GM, Owner, HC is simply whatever they need to quiet the media. It means absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 This. If there's one thing I've realized after 15 years of Herm, Mangini, and Rex, it's that the ability to prepare players and managing the little things during a game are by far the two most important qualities for a NFL coach. Rex might have been able to skate by ignoring the offense for so long if he was remotely competent at those two things. You don't need an offensive or defensive genius at the helm. Maybe not, but I'd prefer it. Much in the way I'd prefer an expert talent evaluator at the GM position, rather than a guy who needs to 100% rely on the professionals below him to make a draft pick. Rex has a lot of faults as a head coach, and maybe he has too many. I'll fully understand it if he gets fired this year. But he's also a guy who's put together some brilliant game plans and won some big games, big upsets, in the process. I think the truly great head coaches (not calling Rex a great head coach here) are a genius on at least one side of the ball. Bill Walsh, Hank Stram, Lombardi, Landry, and (begrudgingly) Belichick. The idea behind guys like Edwards and Mangini is that they had those leadership and/or attention to details skills that they could run a team with strong coordinators under them. That's not a model I'm interested in. And Rex's seeming lack of attention to the offensive side of the ball may be too much of a problem for him. I think Rex is far and away the best promoted head coach we've had - maybe since Walt Michaels. And this is where we're at. When Rex goes, I don't want to promote another guy. I'm not interested in one of Seattle's coordinators. I want a guy who's been successful at the head coach level at either the pro or college level. If that guy isn't a genius at one side of the ball or the other, that'll be fine, as long as he's already been a successful head man. I don't want to hire some underling whose top qualities are preparing players and managing little things during the game and hoping he grows into a head coach. Given the choice, I'd want the genius coordinator over that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Maybe not, but I'd prefer it. Much in the way I'd prefer an expert talent evaluator at the GM position, rather than a guy who needs to 100% rely on the professionals below him to make a draft pick. Rex has a lot of faults as a head coach, and maybe he has too many. I'll fully understand it if he gets fired this year. But he's also a guy who's put together some brilliant game plans and won some big games, big upsets, in the process. I think the truly great head coaches (not calling Rex a great head coach here) are a genius on at least one side of the ball. Bill Walsh, Hank Stram, Lombardi, Landry, and (begrudgingly) Belichick. The idea behind guys like Edwards and Mangini is that they had those leadership and/or attention to details skills that they could run a team with strong coordinators under them. That's not a model I'm interested in. And Rex's seeming lack of attention to the offensive side of the ball may be too much of a problem for him. I think Rex is far and away the best promoted head coach we've had - maybe since Walt Michaels. And this is where we're at. When Rex goes, I don't want to promote another guy. I'm not interested in one of Seattle's coordinators. I want a guy who's been successful at the head coach level at either the pro or college level. If that guy isn't a genius at one side of the ball or the other, that'll be fine, as long as he's already been a successful head man. I don't want to hire some underling whose top qualities are preparing players and managing little things during the game and hoping he grows into a head coach. Given the choice, I'd want the genius coordinator over that guy. Dick LeBeau will be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Dick LeBeau will be available. Good talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Do you think Woody would reward a HC who goes 4 straight years without making the playoffs? Yes, because he is that much of a dope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Woody will want to stay relevant-that seems to drive his decisions to be in the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetknowledge Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 We're going to wind up 10-6. Should any 1 be fired after that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 We're going to wind up 10-6. Should any 1 be fired after that? Your psychiatrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 We're going to wind up 10-6. Should any 1 be fired after that? Rex is still leaving because job offers will be flooding in across the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I really can't wait to see the reaction when Rex, Geno, and Idzik all return. Gonna be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I really can't wait to see the reaction when Rex, Geno, and Idzik all return. Gonna be awesome! You used to program your VCR to record The Pat Sajak Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 In 1999 the Jets started the year 1-6 and finished strong at 8-8 missing the playoffs by one game. I dont see that happening again. Jets will win some games, but Rex is in trouble here. I think if Woody feels he is still the best option, he stays. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrunder Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I really can't wait to see the reaction when Rex, Geno, and Idzik all return. Gonna be awesome! Unfortunately, I think this will be the reality. If Idzik is really as in love with Geno as it sounds like he is, he is betting his GM career on Geno. I cannot imagine him brinigng in a new coaching staff in year 3, which would likely be his and Geno's last chance. That fails, he is done as GM. I think he will stick with the current regime for next year. Unless this season is a 3-13 season, in which he may be gone too. But I find that highly unlikely given the incredibly soft schedule the rest of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 You used to program your VCR to record The Pat Sajak Show. Funny I was talking to the lady friend the other night about the Pat Sajak abomination of a late night show.. she had no idea it existed - I wish I didn't either. You know Sajak currently makes 12 mil a year and Vanna White makes 7-8 mil a year for pressing squares. she doesn't even need to turn them anymore! Meanwhile some people were in an uproar because Jeremy Kerley signed for half of what Vanna White makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonix Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The only answer is this: because the owner is an idiot. There is no other answer. .... Revis's replacement, Dee Milliner, has done nothing but advance his college trend of getting hurt, thereby hardening Idzik's standing as an underwhelming evaluator on draft day and summoning the knocks against him before Woody Johnson put him in charge. Idzik had a history as a contract negotiator and salary-cap guy, not a chief personnel guy, which might explain why nobody interviewed him for a GM position before the Jets did, Seahawks included. None of this stopped Johnson from putting his franchise in the hands of an inexperienced candidate whose personality doesn't exactly match up with the marketplace. For those suffering Knicks fans old enough to recall, Idzik reminds of Scott Layden, a hopelessly overmatched executive who cowered under the media glare and preferred to hide behind tall buildings. It wasn't much of a surprise this past week when Idzik let Ryan make a fool of himself by defending the GM's indefensible draft record. Ryan might deserve to get fired, but over the past two years he's been better at his job than Idzik has been at his. In the end, fair or not, the GM will survive long enough to hire Rex's replacement. It would be nice if Idzik actually got that personnel call right. You know, it might even be a potential coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Funny I was talking to the lady friend the other night about the Pat Sajak abomination of a late night show.. she had no idea it existed - I wish I didn't either. You know Sajak currently makes 12 mil a year and Vanna White makes 7-8 mil a year for pressing squares. she doesn't even need to turn them anymore! Meanwhile some people were in an uproar because Jeremy Kerley signed for half of what Vanna White makes. It has been said that Vanna White is a better "slot" receiver than Kerley, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinlawyer Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Oh Vanna was a hottie back in the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Funny I was talking to the lady friend the other night about the Pat Sajak abomination of a late night show.. she had no idea it existed - I wish I didn't either. You know Sajak currently makes 12 mil a year and Vanna White makes 7-8 mil a year for pressing squares. she doesn't even need to turn them anymore! Meanwhile some people were in an uproar because Jeremy Kerley signed for half of what Vanna White makes. Nice opening line though "hey how about that Pat Sajak?".... Did it work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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