bealeb319 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 yes I just posted a few days ago about how Geno isn't all that bad right before he had to be a dick and prove me wrong by throwing three interceptions in four possessions. I am still not sold on Mariota and I think Winston will be in prison for something before he is able to fully develop. There will likely be some other names who find their way up into the first round or atleast the first round discussions however we have other priorities to address in free agency and the draft. I did come up with one possible solution to our current qb problem that unfortunately would not help us this year. what if we were to trade a late pick with the rams for Sam Bradford? I think we could get him for a conditional 5-7th round pick because of his injury history and because they have found a good qb to replace him they will be likely to cut him if no trade offers are thrown their way anyway. he might not be the best qb in the nfl but he is defiantly better than what we currently have. thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I like the idea but he can't stay on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucrenegade Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 i would offer a 5th or 6th for bradford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Damn, was hoping this was a Tebow thread. I'll take the guy he beat in the National Championship though. It would be a perfect Idzik signing. Terrible injury prone veteran FA. Par for the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Sam Bradford is a pansy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'd rather take a look at Jake Locker if he is released. Just as injury prone, but better player. Someone to bridge until we draft a capable QB to lead the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Screw cheap write a friggin check!!! Coulda had cutler. Coulda had palmer. Coulda had alex smith. Coulda had orton. BUT NOOOOOO we decided to draft the mouth breather from west virgina. Hey geno close your yap before you catch flies in there ya mo-ron! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenoandtheJets Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Call Brett Favre or Vinny Testaverde they will probably listen but wont play and will probably laugh the jets off the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 yes I just posted a few days ago about how Geno isn't all that bad right before he had to be a dick and prove me wrong by throwing three interceptions in four possessions. I am still not sold on Mariota and I think Winston will be in prison for something before he is able to fully develop. There will likely be some other names who find their way up into the first round or atleast the first round discussions however we have other priorities to address in free agency and the draft. I did come up with one possible solution to our current qb problem that unfortunately would not help us this year. what if we were to trade a late pick with the rams for Sam Bradford? I think we could get him for a conditional 5-7th round pick because of his injury history and because they have found a good qb to replace him they will be likely to cut him if no trade offers are thrown their way anyway. he might not be the best qb in the nfl but he is defiantly better than what we currently have. thoughts? Why would we need a cheap fix with 50 to 60 million in cap room this offseason? Why would we try to fix the decades old franchise QB problem with a bust? How was Geno not all that bad a few days ago and now he's garbage? Why would we trade for a player who will CERTAINLY be cut? And give up a 5th rounder no less. Vick is better than Bradford, especially if you consider that they are about equal when it comes to durability... or lack there of. Please brainstorm a bit more. I'm sure you can fix this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Why would we need a cheap fix with 50 to 60 million in cap room this offseason? Why would we try to fix the decades old franchise QB problem with a bust? How was Geno not all that bad a few days ago and now he's garbage? Why would we trade for a player who will CERTAINLY be cut? And give up a 5th rounder no less. Vick is better than Bradford, especially if you consider that they are about equal when it comes to durability... or lack there of. Please brainstorm a bit more. I'm sure you can fix this franchise. Take the 50 million, put it in a a metal suitcase, borrow woody's helicopter and go visit every qb in the league rumored to be at odds with their FO or HC and fan the money out on their kitchen table. Then give up whatever picks you need to in order to get the guy. Does ANYONE want idziot to have any more draft picks than is necessary? What is a franchise QB worth to YOU? Two first rounders for a Big Ben sounds like an absolute no brainer. throw in any flight crew girl of his choice and we will have a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 sam bradford cant stay on the field and when he has actually played he has not shown much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Why would we need a cheap fix with 50 to 60 million in cap room this offseason? Why would we try to fix the decades old franchise QB problem with a bust? How was Geno not all that bad a few days ago and now he's garbage? Why would we trade for a player who will CERTAINLY be cut? And give up a 5th rounder no less. Vick is better than Bradford, especially if you consider that they are about equal when it comes to durability... or lack there of. Please brainstorm a bit more. I'm sure you can fix this franchise. just because we have cap space doesn't mean it should all be spent in one place...not like qb is our only position of need we are obviously pretty desperate for two more corners and they don't come cheap. we could also use a big receiver who is a threat in the redzone. when Bradford is healthy he is pretty good for a late pick I think the risk would be less than the reward and if nothing else it would give us competition at the position until we get something better. note that I also like the idea of maby looking at locker as a temporary fix. I never said geno was garbage however a few days ago he didn't throw three interceptions in four drives and the passes he did throw were way off mark. it almost looked as if he had come to the buffalo game drunk. the reason to trade for a player who will probably be cut is simple if you trade for him you don't have to compete with other teams, Bradford still has one year left on his contract and he isn't getting paid a whole lot something like 12m a year. the other thing is in our division we have another team who will be looking for a qb and would you want to risk Bradford going to the bills and actually playing well because he has Sammy Watkins to throw the ball to? as for why give up a 5th round pick for Watkins look at the amazing talent the jets drafted for this year past the third round. why not take a swing at someone who has potential as opposed to letting idzik pick a name out of his magic hat who will most likely be someone who doesn't make the roster anyway. yes durability for Bradford is a problem however I think he is better than Vick he is also younger than Vick and played for a worse team then Vick. I also think he has a higher ceiling than Vick does and he might have a better shot at staying healthy on a new team. sometimes these guys just need a fresh start to shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Bradford is absolutely worthless right now. Investing anything significant in him would be insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 just because we have cap space doesn't mean it should all be spent in one place...not like qb is our only position of need we are obviously pretty desperate for two more corners and they don't come cheap. we could also use a big receiver who is a threat in the redzone. when Bradford is healthy he is pretty good for a late pick I think the risk would be less than the reward and if nothing else it would give us competition at the position until we get something better. note that I also like the idea of maby looking at locker as a temporary fix. I never said geno was garbage however a few days ago he didn't throw three interceptions in four drives and the passes he did throw were way off mark. it almost looked as if he had come to the buffalo game drunk. the reason to trade for a player who will probably be cut is simple if you trade for him you don't have to compete with other teams, Bradford still has one year left on his contract and he isn't getting paid a whole lot something like 12m a year. the other thing is in our division we have another team who will be looking for a qb and would you want to risk Bradford going to the bills and actually playing well because he has Sammy Watkins to throw the ball to? as for why give up a 5th round pick for Watkins look at the amazing talent the jets drafted for this year past the third round. why not take a swing at someone who has potential as opposed to letting idzik pick a name out of his magic hat who will most likely be someone who doesn't make the roster anyway. yes durability for Bradford is a problem however I think he is better than Vick he is also younger than Vick and played for a worse team then Vick. I also think he has a higher ceiling than Vick does and he might have a better shot at staying healthy on a new team. sometimes these guys just need a fresh start to shine. You just destroyed your own logic. If we trade for him we inherit his 12 million dollar salary next year. If we wait for him to be cut we will get him at a 12th of that price. Seriously, I like your outside the box thinking, and I also enjoy going over these scenarios in my head. But this one makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 if we did trade for him we would likely be able to restructure the contract anyway. and if he stayed healthy and played a full year he would probably be worth a 12 million dollar hit to our cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Him and Locker are both worth a shot. Better than Hoyer. Take cooper this year. Then get Hackenberg the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlagmanL11 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 See what Vick can do the rest of this season, draft yet another QB next year, but don't throw him to the wolves right away if VIck shows something, as Vick would be the cheap solution while the rookie learns watching. If Vick fails then look for a vet, like the Bills have done with Orton and Skins with McCoy and still look to draft a QB, and have the rookie sit and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 No more cheap fixes I want this team to draft or invest in the next franchise QB enough of the experiments no more Brooks Bollingers, Kellen Clemens,Brett Ratliffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Take the 50 million, put it in a a metal suitcase, borrow woody's helicopter and go visit every qb in the league rumored to be at odds with their FO or HC and fan the money out on their kitchen table. Then give up whatever picks you need to in order to get the guy. Does ANYONE want idziot to have any more draft picks than is necessary? What is a franchise QB worth to YOU? Two first rounders for a Big Ben sounds like an absolute no brainer. throw in any flight crew girl of his choice and we will have a deal. I don't think we would have any picks left to trade after we surrendered them all for tampering, counselor. You just destroyed your own logic. If we trade for him we inherit his 12 million dollar salary next year. If we wait for him to be cut we will get him at a 12th of that price. Seriously, I like your outside the box thinking, and I also enjoy going over these scenarios in my head. But this one makes no sense. in a world where Vick, McCown and Orton get $5M per and Hoyer is scheduled to make at least that much, Sam Bradford is getting considerably more than $1M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I don't think we would have any picks left to trade after we surrendered them all for tampering, counselor. in a world where Vick, McCown and Orton get $5M per and Hoyer is scheduled to make at least that much, Sam Bradford is getting considerably more than $1M. humor my friend, our profession isn't totally devoid of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 No more cheap fixes I want this team to draft or invest in the next franchise QB enough of the experiments no more Brooks Bollingers, Kellen Clemens,Brett Ratliffs There is no rational person that considered Bollinger or Ratliff any kind of investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 humor my friend, our profession isn't totally devoid of it Beg to differ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Beg to differ i'll write you a memo on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Brought this up in another thread. I think it's a great idea. One thing we learned from our last two QB's is unless you have Andrew Luck these guys need to sit and learn. Nothing wrong with drafting a QB while also bringing in a stopgap for a year or two. Bradford or Locker could be perfect assuming they can stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The Bradford idea is insane. The minute he goes down we are the same old Jets bungling free agency. In this media market it simply can't happen. If we were coming off years of success ... Maybe. But not at a time like this. I like the idea of Hoyer and Moriata. I'd even consider someone like Hasselbeck from Indy combined with Manziel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 The Bradford idea is insane. The minute he goes down we are the same old Jets bungling free agency. In this media market it simply can't happen. If we were coming off years of success ... Maybe. But not at a time like this. I like the idea of Hoyer and Moriata. I'd even consider someone like Hasselbeck from Indy combined with Manziel. Hoyer hasn't been great this season and the browns might want to keep him anyway. Mariota scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 we could always try to get greg McElroy out of retirement lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Hoyer hasn't been great this season and the browns might want to keep him anyway. Mariota scares me. every prospect is scary. finding a QB is hard! trying once every 4 years isn't good enough. Try again and again and again until you hit. 1st or 2nd round pick every year until we find the guy. And if we find two at once (hahahaha we can't even find one) we dump one for a ransom to some other QB desperate team ala Kevin Kolb. No more excuses. FIND THE GUY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The reality is this team is not winning next year either. Draft a QB and let him sit for a year, none of these college QB's are NFL ready, they'll all need time. Throwing another rookie QB into the fire is just doing the same thing over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Where did all these new guys with their asinine ideas come from? Did they just fall of the truck? Sweet Jesus! You want to hitch your wagon to Bradford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The reason behind him being cheap is ultimately and unfortunately the reason why he wouldn't work out here. If he could stay healthy I wouldn't be against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The reason behind him being cheap is ultimately and unfortunately the reason why he wouldn't work out here. If he could stay healthy I wouldn't be against it. If Jerry's Kids could stay healthy they would all be starting at Rutgers -- for al the good it would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 every prospect is scary. finding a QB is hard! trying once every 4 years isn't good enough. Try again and again and again until you hit. 1st or 2nd round pick every year until we find the guy. And if we find two at once (hahahaha we can't even find one) we dump one for a ransom to some other QB desperate team ala Kevin Kolb. No more excuses. FIND THE GUY.That's how we end up with 5 QB's on our depth chart and zero players around them. I won feel much better in drafting Amari Cooper and then digging in free agency for a QB. That doesn't mean we should go QB this draft... just not first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 As a Card Carrying Duck fan, I would rather Mariota go to hell than the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 That's how we end up with 5 QB's on our depth chart and zero players around them. I won feel much better in drafting Amari Cooper and then digging in free agency for a QB. That doesn't mean we should go QB this draft... just not first round. Once you find the guy you stop doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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