Lizard King Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 FLORHAM PARK — Before he took questions at his midseason State of the Jets press conference on Monday, general manager John Idzik spoke. And spoke and spoke and spoke. For all anyone knows, he still might be talking to somebody, somewhere. The Jets are now 1-7, and The Great Empty Idzik Oration borrowed heavily from the standard NFL PR playbook of taking the all blame without offering up anything specific. Idzik's added touch was to bury everyone with an avalanche of words. Let's just say the dude's no Cicero. According to a transcript provided by the team—here's hoping the intern who typed it up got Tuesday off—Idzik's opening monologue rambled on for 2,466 words. Many famous speeches in world history were much shorter. Here's a list, including word counts, though I'm sure I missed a few: FDR's "First Inaugural Address": 1,875 Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream": 1,670 William Wilberforce's "Abolition Speech": 1,602 JFK's "Inaugural Address": 1,322 Theodore Roosevelt's "Strength and Decency": 1,242 Mahatma Gandhi's "Quit India": 1,091 Winston Churchill's "Blood, Sweat, and Tears": 686 Ronald Reagan's "Space Shuttle Challenger Tragedy Address": 651 RFK's "Remarks on the Assassination of MLK": 637 Charles de Gaulle's "Appeal of 18 June": 360 Abraham Lincoln's "Gettysburg Address": 271 http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/10/a_list_of_famous_speeches_shorter_than_jets_john_idziks_press_conference_monologue.html#incart_river Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Integrity28 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 FLORHAM PARK — Before he took questions at his midseason State of the Jets press conference on Monday, general manager John Idzik spoke. And spoke and spoke and spoke. For all anyone knows, he still might be talking to somebody, somewhere. The Jets are now 1-7, and The Great Empty Idzik Oration borrowed heavily from the standard NFL PR playbook of taking the all blame without offering up anything specific. Idzik's added touch was to bury everyone with an avalanche of words. Let's just say the dude's no Cicero. According to a transcript provided by the team—here's hoping the intern who typed it up got Tuesday off—Idzik's opening monologue rambled on for 2,466 words. Many famous speeches in world history were much shorter. Here's a list, including word counts, though I'm sure I missed a few: FDR's "First Inaugural Address": 1,875 Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream": 1,670 William Wilberforce's "Abolition Speech": 1,602 JFK's "Inaugural Address": 1,322 Theodore Roosevelt's "Strength and Decency": 1,242 Mahatma Gandhi's "Quit India": 1,091 Winston Churchill's "Blood, Sweat, and Tears": 686 Ronald Reagan's "Space Shuttle Challenger Tragedy Address": 651 RFK's "Remarks on the Assassination of MLK": 637 Charles de Gaulle's "Appeal of 18 June": 360 Abraham Lincoln's "Gettysburg Address": 271 http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/10/a_list_of_famous_speeches_shorter_than_jets_john_idziks_press_conference_monologue.html#incart_river Any post by either Sperm Edwards or Bleedin Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 It was pretty embarrassing. His speech should have been 3 sentences long before opening it up to Q&A. There was also the inconsistency in what he was saying. Admirable to half-heartedly fall on the sword, but in doing so he absolved everyone other than himself, including all the players and all the coaches. So if he was better but everything else remained the same, the results would have been any different. If all the coaches and all the players are/were doing a great job then we wouldn't be 1-7 no matter what he did or didn't do as GM. It was really strange. He was also caught off-guard by the question of why fans should trust him going forward if he says he screwed up badly up to now while trying his hardest to do a great job. It's one of those few times there's really nothing to day except maybe the Ryan boasting-type about his gut feeling or something. Not that it causes reassurance to those who already dislike him, but at least act like you have some belief in yourself if nothing else. I almost felt badly for him for a second there. Almost. Shame. I still believe it's a great way to build a franchise when starting from rock bottom. But you can't miss on over 80% of your draft picks, particularly after gutting so much of the team, and expect any plan to work going forward. The failure is only more pronounced because among the whiffs came at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Any post by either Sperm Edwards or Bleedin Green. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 LOL! You're timing in responding above is impeccable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 You're timing in responding above is impeccable. Except that one was a couple words shy of 2000 this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 There have been many bizarre moments in Jets history. Yesterday could take the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Except that one was a couple words shy of 2000 this time. Anytime I read anything you write, I imagine there being a 500 word preamble. So, in my book, it counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Anytime I read anything you write, I imagine there being a 500 word preamble. So, in my book, it counts. Readers Digest could have a field day with Sperms internet career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 our GM is now a part of history. Im so proud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Readers Digest could have a field day with Sperms internet career. Readers Digest still exists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I know everybody looks at this nonsense like Idzik showed how dumb he is and this press conference proves he cannot succeed, but the old "resign as HC of NYJ" was short but easily exhibited the kind of insanity you guys are complaining about and that douche is a hall of famer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I know everybody looks at this nonsense like Idzik showed how dumb he is and this press conference proves he cannot succeed, but the old "resign as HC of NYJ" was short but easily exhibited the kind of insanity you guys are complaining about and that douche is a hall of famer. Idzik wasn't short with the press. He filibustered for like 20 minutes. Bill Belicheck has never given a press conference where he has sat and praised the entire organization for 19 seconds, let alone minutes. The two are polar opposites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 FLORHAM PARK — Before he took questions at his midseason State of the Jets press conference on Monday, general manager John Idzik spoke. And spoke and spoke and spoke. For all anyone knows, he still might be talking to somebody, somewhere. The Jets are now 1-7, and The Great Empty Idzik Oration borrowed heavily from the standard NFL PR playbook of taking the all blame without offering up anything specific. Idzik's added touch was to bury everyone with an avalanche of words. Let's just say the dude's no Cicero. According to a transcript provided by the team—here's hoping the intern who typed it up got Tuesday off—Idzik's opening monologue rambled on for 2,466 words. Many famous speeches in world history were much shorter. Here's a list, including word counts, though I'm sure I missed a few: FDR's "First Inaugural Address": 1,875 Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream": 1,670 William Wilberforce's "Abolition Speech": 1,602 JFK's "Inaugural Address": 1,322 Theodore Roosevelt's "Strength and Decency": 1,242 Mahatma Gandhi's "Quit India": 1,091 Winston Churchill's "Blood, Sweat, and Tears": 686 Ronald Reagan's "Space Shuttle Challenger Tragedy Address": 651 RFK's "Remarks on the Assassination of MLK": 637 Charles de Gaulle's "Appeal of 18 June": 360 Abraham Lincoln's "Gettysburg Address": 271 http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/10/a_list_of_famous_speeches_shorter_than_jets_john_idziks_press_conference_monologue.html#incart_river Pretty awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 It was pretty embarrassing. His speech should have been 3 sentences long before opening it up to Q&A. There was also the inconsistency in what he was saying. Admirable to half-heartedly fall on the sword, but in doing so he absolved everyone other than himself, including all the players and all the coaches. So if he was better but everything else remained the same, the results would have been any different. If all the coaches and all the players are/were doing a great job then we wouldn't be 1-7 no matter what he did or didn't do as GM. It was really strange. He was also caught off-guard by the question of why fans should trust him going forward if he says he screwed up badly up to now while trying his hardest to do a great job. It's one of those few times there's really nothing to day except maybe the Ryan boasting-type about his gut feeling or something. Not that it causes reassurance to those who already dislike him, but at least act like you have some belief in yourself if nothing else. I almost felt badly for him for a second there. Almost. Shame. I still believe it's a great way to build a franchise when starting from rock bottom. But you can't miss on over 80% of your draft picks, particularly after gutting so much of the team, and expect any plan to work going forward. The failure is only more pronounced because among the whiffs came at QB. I think he did a bad job of trying to deflect the issues towards coaching and away from himself by saying 'hey they were good, you saw them play with the best teams but they were "INCONSISTANT" which he reiterated a few times. I think this weazle was trying to make himself look good by falling on the sword somewhat but at the same time imply it is coaching fault because of the inconsistancies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Idzik wasn't short with the press. He filibustered for like 20 minutes. Bill Belicheck has never given a press conference where he has sat and praised the entire organization for 19 seconds, let alone minutes. The two are polar opposites. Seemed like the same kind of uncomfortable, flustered insanity to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I know everybody looks at this nonsense like Idzik showed how dumb he is and this press conference proves he cannot succeed, but the old "resign as HC of NYJ" was short but easily exhibited the kind of insanity you guys are complaining about and that douche is a hall of famer. I just think it was pretty embarrassing watching him handle (mis-handle) the presser more than a smart vs. stupid thing. It was the example of someone who didn't know how to give a mea culpa speech and he could have summed up all of that in a couple of sentences instead of rambling for so long. It was uncomfortable just to watch it. I felt like yelling to him through my computer screen, "YO! Wrap it up in the next 8 seconds, take no more than 5 questions, then walk off." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 yeah I sat through all 38 minutes last night and while it was overly dramatic and mildly embarrassing I don't understand the hysteria. He's not Obama he's just a friggin foosball GM speaking from the heart. Not sure why everyone was mad that he didn't seem polished and phony but oh well. makes for more entertaining threads sifting through all the outrage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I just think it was pretty embarrassing watching him handle (mis-handle) the presser more than a smart vs. stupid thing. It was the example of someone who didn't know how to give a mea culpa speech and he could have summed up all of that in a couple of sentences instead of rambling for so long. It was uncomfortable just to watch it. I felt like yelling to him through my computer screen, "YO! Wrap it up in the next 8 seconds, take no more than 5 questions, then walk off." Yeah. It would be worse if it were after the season, but mid-season, what the **** can he say? He is not a motivator, he is not going to fire the coach today, he can't do much about the roster. IMO, it was a stupid time for a press conference. If he were quitting or something he could just drop the mic and walk off like Belichick, but in this case? Awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Seemed like the same kind of uncomfortable, flustered insanity to me. Bill isn't flustered. He is purposefully uncooperative, in audible and displeasant. Idzik was none of those things, intentionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Yeah. It would be worse if it were after the season, but mid-season, what the **** can he say? He is not a motivator, he is not going to fire the coach today, he can't do much about the roster. IMO, it was a stupid time for a press conference. Even if he wanted to give one at all, I do not understand the 15+ minute rambling. Plus what he said made no sense anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 yeah I sat through all 38 minutes last night and while it was overly dramatic and mildly embarrassing I don't understand the hysteria. He's not Obama he's just a friggin foosball GM speaking from the heart. Not sure why everyone was mad that he didn't seem polished and phony but oh well. makes for more entertaining threads sifting through all the outrage. I'm astonished that you've missed the point of why people are agitated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I'm astonished that you've missed the point of why people are agitated. My guess is they had 2 speeches prepared and he chose the wrong one. He opted for a take all blame speak from the heart instead if the fire and brimstone version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I just think it was pretty embarrassing watching him handle (mis-handle) the presser more than a smart vs. stupid thing. It was the example of someone who didn't know how to give a mea culpa speech and he could have summed up all of that in a couple of sentences instead of rambling for so long. It was uncomfortable just to watch it. I felt like yelling to him through my computer screen, "YO! Wrap it up in the next 8 seconds, take no more than 5 questions, then walk off." He was getting skewered no matter what he said. But I agree he made a miscalculation with that approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Bill isn't flustered. He is purposefully uncooperative, in audible and displeasant. Idzik was none of those things, intentionally. When he resigned from the Jets he was not purposefully anything. He was getting fitted for a jacket with no armholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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