JetsFanInDenver Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 So the cool thing nowadays is to root for Rex and/or idzik to get fired. But after another knee/calf injury further decimating the JETS secondary I have to ask how good is the JETS strength and conditioning coach. Is it time to get someone else or fall back to the trusted Sal. After all Sal has paid his dues like Belichick and Greg Williams and Sean Payton for his wrong doings and are back in the league. Maybe just maybe that is the only change the JETS have to make. I know not a popular idea but it may have made a huge difference to JETS fortunes given all the calf, hamstring. ACL injuries we have had to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 #BringBackSalAlosi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I'd do it but the dudes at the nfl wouldn't be able to keep up. S&C at a professional level is complete horsesh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Yes... We should fire Richard Simmons. He's not working out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 yeah cuz guys like don't know how to lift weights and sh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 So the cool thing nowadays is to root for Rex and/or idzik to get fired. But after another knee/calf injury further decimating the JETS secondary I have to ask how good is the JETS strength and conditioning coach. Is it time to get someone else or fall back to the trusted Sal. After all Sal has paid his dues like Belichick and Greg Williams and Sean Payton for his wrong doings and are back in the league. Maybe just maybe that is the only change the JETS have to make. I know not a popular idea but it may have made a huge difference to JETS fortunes given all the calf, hamstring. ACL injuries we have had to deal with. I was hoping someone with a history of making excuses for Rex started this thread. You've got to be kidding me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Might be worth a shot. I can remember way back before the AFL merged with NFL, the San Diego Chargers dominated the West and they were the first professional football team to have a strength and conditioning coach. The first. And the team was usually dominant, in an age when whether or not a player lifted weights was left up to him. Of course, part of the strength and conditioning coach's orders was for each player to take some pep pills, (legal at the time), from the candy dishes left around the locker room all week and especially before the game. Boy, those Chargers could play. Oh yeah, he also made them lift weights and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I think it has less to do with the S&C coach being bad then players are on more supplements (banned and not banned) then ever before and from a younger age. Injuries seem to be up league wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 this is why we need to bring back thomas jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Clean it all out and fumigate. Don't forget the anti-fungal stuff too with Rex's feet thing and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 So the cool thing nowadays is to root for Rex and/or idzik to get fired. But after another knee/calf injury further decimating the JETS secondary I have to ask how good is the JETS strength and conditioning coach. Is it time to get someone else or fall back to the trusted Sal. After all Sal has paid his dues like Belichick and Greg Williams and Sean Payton for his wrong doings and are back in the league. Maybe just maybe that is the only change the JETS have to make. I know not a popular idea but it may have made a huge difference to JETS fortunes given all the calf, hamstring. ACL injuries we have had to deal with. Hire this man as our head coach. Pay him whatever necessary to get him back into the league. Let him and Idzik figure out the rest of the coaches/coordinators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Hire this man as our head coach. Pay him whatever necessary to get him back into the league. Let him and Idzik figure out the rest of the coaches/coordinators. Yeah, let's sign him to be the HC, someone who was never even been a coordinator on either side of the ball, college or pro. But hey, he makes perfect sense to me cuz he once said "Redskins, f*ck them" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 This thread makes my dick itch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The former conditioning coach who worked with Greg Oden and Brandon Roy wants to talk to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yeah, let's sign him to be the HC, someone who was never even been a coordinator on either side of the ball, college or pro. But hey, he makes perfect sense to me cuz he once said "Redskins, f*ck them" Yeah, because Rex being a former coordinator has produced victories year after year. Stop being so sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 I was hoping someone with a history of making excuses for Rex started this thread. You've got to be kidding me. Some of us don't have an agenda. I have never been pro anything. Only exception being I am pro common sense. Which make be believe player's staying healthy and being able to perform on the field has a lot of impact on team's ability to win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 This thread makes my dick itch. It might not be the thread. Go see a doc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Hire this man as our head coach. Pay him whatever necessary to get him back into the league. Let him and Idzik figure out the rest of the coaches/coordinators. He was an exceptional coach and may have had a run in the NFL had it not been for health issues. But those days are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Some of us don't have an agenda. I have never been pro anything. Only exception being I am pro common sense. Which make be believe player's staying healthy and being able to perform on the field has a lot of impact on team's ability to win games. Injuries are part of the game, "good" coaches work around them. Belichick, Arians, Pagano... just a few examples of coaches in the last year or so that have been dealt a hearty dose of injuries and managed not to have it cost them a whole season. Players being able to perform is on the players, coaches and GM. If guys make it to the NFL and can't get it done, there's usually a lot of variables involved. Again, "good" coaches work around this, they don't extend their career using it as an excuse. I'm very much pro-logic and common sense, which is why I've reached the conclusion that if things get worse every year, and some variables have changed, then the wrong variables were changed. Every year new players are a change variable. We've had good healthy years and bad healthy years. We've seen 3 offensive coordinators and 2 GMs and yet the results are the same: steady decline. It is not common sense to blame just the players, they are only part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 Injuries are part of the game, "good" coaches work around them. Belichick, Arians, Pagano... just a few examples of coaches in the last year or so that have been dealt a hearty dose of injuries and managed not to have it cost them a whole season. Players being able to perform is on the players, coaches and GM. If guys make it to the NFL and can't get it done, there's usually a lot of variables involved. Again, "good" coaches work around this, they don't extend their career using it as an excuse. I'm very much pro-logic and common sense, which is why I've reached the conclusion that if things get worse every year, and some variables have changed, then the wrong variables were changed. Every year new players are a change variable. We've had good healthy years and bad healthy years. We've seen 3 offensive coordinators and 2 GMs and yet the results are the same: steady decline. It is not common sense to blame just the players, they are only part of the problem. Again all you got is agenda driven conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Again all you got is agenda driven conclusions. Actually, the way I've reached my conclusions is basic logic. I've considered all variables, all scenarios and all of the actual outcomes we've seen, and my conclusion is that Rex and Idzik are a huge part of the problem, with an emphasis on Rex since he's been here longer. Your argument that less injuries would equate to more success is a hypothetical, and you sort of undermine it with your second point that we need better players. If injuries are our downfall, then that implies that the hurt players were in fact good. Which can be extrapolated to mean in the years they weren't hurt we wouldn't suck, but we have sucked consistently for 4 years. So yea... your argument is meh. If you cannot deduce, after 6 years of players shuffling in and out, that the on-the-field performance being consistently garbage is a bigger problem than the players being good, then you in fact do have a bias and an agenda of your own... because this would be ignoring logic, and in effect ignoring the common sense you claim to champion. The Jets a couple years ago were one of the healthiest teams in the league and still sucked. I think it was the 6 win season. Injuries hurt every team, every year but still most of them managed to win more than 1 game... not all, there was that Colts team that lost Peyton for a year... the greatest player of our generation. I don't think Dee Milliner's injury is on the same level. So, again, Rex and Idzik are a huge part of the problem - as is the dearth of talent. Rex because he's been the lynchpin for steady decline, having huge impact on roster, preparation and overall direction of the team, and Idzik because he hasn't done enough to improve that dearth of talent, with huge misses in FA and draft picks being the exclamation point on his failures. We're not in this mess because a couple guys hurt their ******* ankles this year, this mess is 6 years old. If you want a new Strenght and Conditioning coach, have at it, but if that's the only step taken to fix anything then the agenda wasn't to fix anything in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 Your argument that less injuries would equate to more success is a hypothetical, Its based on common sense conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Its based on common sense conclusions. Alright, you had me worried for a minute there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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