slats Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Just thought a good old fashioned public poll was in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I voted Rex and Idzik but in reality everyone needs to go. From the coaches to the GM, scouting staff. Anyone involved in the construction of this debacle needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Burn the whole thing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodyJ Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I voted for patience. I see no reason to act hastily here. As long as these guys can win 2 game out of the last 7, that would show improvement and give me hope for next year. Sometimes you just have a down year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 If you fire Idzik after making him keep Rex, you might as well throw a hazmat bubble over the entire facility, because you're never getting anyone to work here ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I voted no one although I wish there was another option for other and fire David Lee. also let him take geno and vick with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 If you fire Idzik after making him keep Rex, you might as well throw a hazmat bubble over the entire facility, because you're never getting anyone to work here ever again. Au Contraire Iddy had no backbone, more qualified GM's turned down Jets job cause of rexey. He fired Tanny's scouting staff cept for Bradway and got "12 yrs a slave", at least with Tanny's scouting staff they got Richardson. New GM will get to pick his own guy. there are only 32 jobs in the world, so there will be no issue once Woody allows a football man to run the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 If you fire Idzik after making him keep Rex, you might as well throw a hazmat bubble over the entire facility, because you're never getting anyone to work here ever again. Idzik drafted Geno. Do you really trust him to draft another QB? If there was not a QB worth taking in that draft the GM should have brought in a competent Vet to win now. Chris Johnson looks bad. 20 Mil in cap space says FU to the fanbase @ 1 - 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 If you fire Idzik after making him keep Rex, you might as well throw a hazmat bubble over the entire facility, because you're never getting anyone to work here ever again. I know this is your new narrative with your man J0hnIdzik, but the guy thru two years has done a bad job. It's okay to fire him. Potential replacements should believe they'll be better GMs than he's been, and shouldn't be concerned that he got a quick hook. In Woody World, the quick hook is the unusual move, not the common one. Rex has been here six years, Tannenbaum had been here since Parcells, Bradway is still employed. No one looks at the Jets as a place where they'll have no job stability, and that view won't change after one quick and timely firing. And if that's the best reason to keep him, there's no good reason to keep him. This time around, the job will be much more attractive than it was when Idzik was hired. There will be no head coach he's forced to keep, no best player he's forced to trade. The cap is in much better shape, and they'll have a high draft pick. Plenty of people will line up for this position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Idzik drafted Geno. Do you really trust him to draft another QB? If there was not a QB worth taking in that draft the GM should have brought in a competent Vet to win now. Chris Johnson looks bad. 20 Mil in cap space says FU to the fanbase @ 1 - 8. By this standard, Belichick should never be allowed to make another pick as long as he lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Au Contraire Iddy had no backbone, more qualified GM's turned down Jets job cause of rexey. He fired Tanny's scouting staff cept for Bradway and got "12 yrs a slave", at least with Tanny's scouting staff they got Richardson. New GM will get to pick his own guy. there are only 32 jobs in the world, so there will be no issue once Woody allows a football man to run the show. GM candidates work decades to just get in line to interview for these jobs, and the quickest way to throw all that away is to take a job with a bad owner who lets Manish Mehta and moron-sponsored billboards dictate how he runs the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I know this is your new narrative with your man J0hnIdzik, but the guy thru two years has done a bad job. It's okay to fire him. Potential replacements should believe they'll be better GMs than he's been, and shouldn't be concerned that he got a quick hook. In Woody World, the quick hook is the unusual move, not the common one. Rex has been here six years, Tannenbaum had been here since Parcells, Bradway is still employed. No one looks at the Jets as a place where they'll have no job stability, and that view won't change after one quick and timely firing. And if that's the best reason to keep him, there's no good reason to keep him. This time around, the job will be much more attractive than it was when Idzik was hired. There will be no head coach he's forced to keep, no best player he's forced to trade. The cap is in much better shape, and they'll have a high draft pick. Plenty of people will line up for this position. You, slats, would not take this job under those circumstances. The best course of action is to let Idzik have two more years to implement his plan, and pray it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 If you fire Idzik after making him keep Rex, you might as well throw a hazmat bubble over the entire facility, because you're never getting anyone to work here ever again. What quality head coaching candidate is going to come work for a GM who is on thin ice? If Idzik is retained, you're limiting the pool of coaches who will be willing to come here. Even your boy Bevell might not take that risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 What quality head coaching candidate is going to come work for a GM who is on thin ice? If Idzik is retained, you're limiting the pool of coaches who will be willing to come here. Even your boy Bevell might not take that risk. Idzik is only on thin ice in the hearts and feeble minds of Rex apologists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Idzik is only on thin ice in the hearts and feeble minds of Rex apologists. You don't know that for sure. None of us do. But if he is retained, the perception will be that he is on a very short leash. That will factor in on a coach's decision to come work here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 You, slats, would not take this job under those circumstances. The best course of action is to let Idzik have two more years to implement his plan, and pray it works. Disagree on both counts. It'd probably be a nice bump in pay for me, and I'm getting close to retirement anyway. Your view that this job becomes less attractive if Idzik is fired after this season is just flat out wrong, IMHO. And the idea that giving this guy another two years is the best course of action is crazy. The team now is much worse than it was two years ago. You talk about potential GMs not wanting to come here if Idzik is fired, what head coach candidates are gonna wanna come to work for Idzik on the two year plan? And do you want to continue the keep the GM fire the coach, keep the coach fire the GM thing going in perpetuity? This is a great time to clean house. Under a new GM, the head coaching job is much more attractive, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 If you fire Idzik after making him keep Rex, you might as well throw a hazmat bubble over the entire facility, because you're never getting anyone to work here ever again. You are so right. Why can't people fathom this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I'm getting close to retirement anyway. We should chat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 GM candidates work decades to just get in line to interview for these jobs, and the quickest way to throw all that away is to take a job with a bad owner who lets Manish Mehta and moron-sponsored billboards dictate how he runs the team. Wrong if you do not Fire Iddy now you will eventually turn into a Cleveland scenario. Iddy fired in 2 yrs and new GM hires another HC. No great HC candidate will take this job with a LAME DUCK GM. If you have Herpes, 2 more years of his IDDYOCY will not cure it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Everybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Justus Galac Sanjay Lal Terry Bradway Jeff Bauer and every scout in the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Justus Galac Sanjay Lal Terry Bradway Jeff Bauer and every scout in the building. Damn you're going to fire the strength and conditioning coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Damn you're going to fire the strength and conditioning coach? Yes. Bring Sal Alosi back. Aside from that one tripping incident, the guy did an amazing job while he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I voted to fire idzik. let the new gm ( hopefully the right one) figure out the rest of the lineup as he sees fit. he can keep who he wants (if any) and discard the rest. woody needs to fire idzik, hire a new gm, and then step out of the way completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Yes. Bring Sal Alosi back. Aside from that one tripping incident, the guy did an amazing job while he was here. Maybe, but that guy realistically has about as much of a chance as Bernie madoff does getting involved in a hedge fund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 You, slats, would not take this job under those circumstances. The best course of action is to let Idzik have two more years to implement his plan, and pray it works. Do you, or anyone, exactly know what Idzik's plan is? In his short time here, it looks like the same plan the Jets have used since they hired Rex. Focus on drafting defensive players, ignore offensive playmakers and the Oline and totally screw up FA signings. And you think Idzik deserves 2 more years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Maybe, but that guy realistically has about as much of a chance as Bernie madoff does getting involved in a hedge fund Either way, this new guy isn't hacking it. When Alosi was here, we were one of the league's healthiest teams year in and year out. Since he was fired we've been injury-riddled. That's more than just a coincidence. Proper training plays a big role in injury prevention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 We've known that we are extremely thin at OL for the past three seasons. Two years is plenty of time to implement a plan to bolster this unit. We knew we had ONE (at best) nfl caliber CB ... a draft and a free agency period is plenty of time to have a serviceable squad. This is on Idzick and scouting. And its unconscionable to go into this season with the roster that we have. Time to start fresh and build from the bottom up, bring in someone with a comprehensive vision and let them hire brand new staff to implement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 The T0mShane wet dream plan: 1. Fire Rex 2. Fire every scout underneath Idzik. 3. Hire Parcells in a well-paid, 2-year consultant role. 4. Allow Idzik to have ultimate authority on next HC decision (Bevell) and steal as many of Seattle's scouting people as possible. If a turnaround doesn't happen by the end of 2016, completely start from scratch and hope Woody sells the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Burn the whole thing down. Yup. I think it was slats who said to make sure all the corners are swept clean. That's the only answer. We're paying now for Woody having kept Rex when he hired Idzik. Put us back two years. Unless everybody goes at once and we start over with a true leader, we get pushed back another 2-3 years with no end in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 If you fire Idzik after making him keep Rex, you might as well throw a hazmat bubble over the entire facility, because you're never getting anyone to work here ever again. and the sky will turn'th red and my minions will come'th down and strike ye all jet haters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 i vote fire idziot 1st - then hire new GM to evaluate Rex, scouting, and lunch lady (I swear she must be feeding them too much cause they getting fat and slow) yeah yeah that already happened with Idziot but idziot is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 The T0mShane wet dream plan: 1. Fire Rex 2. Fire every scout underneath Idzik. 3. Hire Parcells in a well-paid, 2-year consultant role. 4. Allow Idzik to have ultimate authority on next HC decision (Bevell) and steal as many of Seattle's scouting people as possible. If a turnaround doesn't happen by the end of 2016, completely start from scratch and hope Woody sells the team. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 The T0mShane wet dream plan: 1. Fire Rex 2. Fire every scout underneath Idzik. 3. Hire Parcells in a well-paid, 2-year consultant role. 4. Allow Idzik to have ultimate authority on next HC decision (Bevell) and steal as many of Seattle's scouting people as possible. If a turnaround doesn't happen by the end of 2016, completely start from scratch and hope Woody sells the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Do you, or anyone, exactly know what Idzik's plan is? In his short time here, it looks like the same plan the Jets have used since they hired Rex. Focus on drafting defensive players, ignore offensive playmakers and the Oline and totally screw up FA signings. And you think Idzik deserves 2 more years? Looking at the contracts he's handed out (including Rex's), everything is geared toward 2015-2016. There's actually a nice, young core signed beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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