AFJF Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Just thought I'd pass some of these along w/o going in to great detail...players that some Jets fans might be interested in for one reason or another. #2- Vontae Davis #3- Brandon Flowers #5- Antonio Cromartie #7- Darelle Revis #19- Brent Grimes #23- Captain Mennerlyn t#27- Rodgers-Cromartie t#27- Alterraun Verner #48- Aquib Talib #52- Antonio Allen #57- Darrin Walls #62- Kyle Wilson #74- Kyle Fuller #89- Phillip Adams #96- Brandon Browner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 The big question I have is... How would Jet fans feel if we paid the big bucks to DRC and got the #27 CB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 The big question I have is... How would Jet fans feel if we paid the big bucks to DRC and got the #27 CB? I wouldn't have been thrilled which I why I was okay with letting him walk based on the years/dollars he wanted. He wanted to be paid like an elite CB, but what's elite? Top five? Top ten? Surely not top thirty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 What sucks is that we would probably have Vontae if he actually wanted to leave Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 What sucks is that we would probably have Vontae if he actually wanted to leave Indy Flowers/Cromarite is what bothers me most. Cro was a lock if we wanted him, and Flowers didn't demand a ton of money when he was let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Flowers/Cromarite is what bothers me most. Cro was a lock if we wanted him, and Flowers didn't demand a ton of money when he was let go. Who knew they'd have this type of year, especially cro. Thought this would be his last year in the NFL after what he showed last year. It just sucks. But agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 How did Antonio Cromarrie go from being a bottom-five rated corner in the league to being top-five? It's almost like Rex's system is inflexible and asks corners to do stuff that only an elite talent like Darrelle Revis can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 What sucks is that we would probably have Vontae if he actually wanted to leave Indy Yeah, I was badly hoping for Vontae. I also wanted Cro back. Idzik n Rex messed up on Cro. Could have had both for $12mil a yr. Would've solved the CB issues and would have given us more flexibility in the draft in the 3rd round. Probably could have moved up to grab Jordan Mathews (wasn't a fan of Marquis Lee). Wouldn't need the Percy trade to go down either so cap situation would have been somewhat similar. Each passing wk makes Idzik look worse and worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Who knew they'd have this type of year, especially cro. Thought this would be his last year in the NFL after what he showed last year. It just sucks. But agreed. Cro played hurt all of last yr. He was bound to have a comeback yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I never liked Flowers much, but Idzik knew they had nothing when he was cut loose and we still didn't even have him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 #62- Kyle Wilson Beast. Mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Cromartie was horrible for whatever reason last year- can not fault us for not resigning him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 How did Antonio Cromarrie go from being a bottom-five rated corner in the league to being top-five? It's almost like Rex's system is inflexible and asks corners to do stuff that only an elite talent like Darrelle Revis can do. I don't understand how he is playing well without Rex to begin with. Or any corner for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Flowers/Cromarite is what bothers me most. Cro was a lock if we wanted him, and Flowers didn't demand a ton of money when he was let go. Idzik didn't even call Flowers agent. One thing not to get him, another thing to be asleep at the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 How did Antonio Cromarrie go from being a bottom-five rated corner in the league to being top-five? It's almost like Rex's system is inflexible and asks corners to do stuff that only an elite talent like Darrelle Revis can do. Uh, he was actually good under Rex until he had that injury problem last year. Let's not rewrite history, he was a good corner under Rex, even that year when Revis was hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I don't understand how he is playing well without Rex to begin with. Or any corner for that matter. Awesome post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Idzik didn't even call Flowers agent. One thing not to get him, another thing to be asleep at the wheel. I definitely got the impression that they made no effort, and even if they did it obviously wasn't a very good one based on what he signed for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Just thought I'd pass some of these along w/o going in to great detail...players that some Jets fans might be interested in for one reason or another. #2- Vontae Davis #3- Brandon Flowers #5- Antonio Cromartie #7- Darelle Revis #19- Brent Grimes #23- Captain Mennerlyn t#27- Rodgers-Cromartie t#27- Alterraun Verner #48- Aquib Talib #52- Antonio Allen #57- Darrin Walls #62- Kyle Wilson #74- Kyle Fuller #89- Phillip Adams #96- Brandon Browner Who is #1?Sherman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Cromartie was horrible for whatever reason last year- can not fault us for not resigning him. I felt the same way initially, but just before the season kicked off I changed course on that. For the amount of cap space they had, the need at the position, and what Cro signed for, it was pretty much zero risk/high reward IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Who is #1?Sherman? #1- Chris Harris- Den #8- Sherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Beast. Mode. He's clearly not as bad in reality as he is in my mind. To me, he's the worst CB in the NFL. I don't see how opposing OC's don't tell the QB to just throw it to whoever Wilson is covering to make life easy and end up with an 85% completion rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Cro non signing is what baffles me. You sign a veteran who wants to be here and having him on the roster gives you the freedom to not reach for a CB like McDougle in the 3rd round. McDougle might still end up being a player but the JETS sure had a decent shot of getting him the lower rounds and not have to burn a 3rd round pick on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Cro played hurt all of last yr. He was bound to have a comeback yr. No 30yo with a hip injury in the NFL is bound for a comeback year. That's why we didn't consider it. Though, hindsight, we should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 No 30yo with a hip injury in the NFL is bound for a comeback year. That's why we didn't consider it. Though, hindsight, we should have. Your right about that, but what in the world made Idzik think that Patterson could replace him? The guy has always been a bum who couldn't stay healthy. At least with Cro he had played at a high level in the past. There was a fair chance he would have a comeback year. With Patterson 0 chance . The money was fairly close. Real bone head move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Your right about that, but what in the world made Idzik think that Patterson could replace him? The guy has always been a bum who couldn't stay healthy. At least with Cro he had played at a high level in the past. There was a fair chance he would have a comeback year. With Patterson 0 chance . The money was fairly close. Real bone head move Yeah, makes no sense. Can't find a way to justify it. Unless there's something we don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 There's always a rub with these ratings. Cro is probably rated pretty highly because Peterson is busy getting torched by #1 wideouts. Meanwhile Cro is able to handle #2 wideouts, getting lightly targeted because the #1's are getting open against Peterson, and playing behind a nice front seven. It's a great situation for a #2 corner. All that said, not re-signing him was dumb. He's an athletic specimen who may or may not have been primed for a comeback year coming off an injury, wanted to be here, and was going to come cheap. Low risk move. Seemed like a no brainer before the offseason started, and then they missed on a bunch of corners, got too cute, and brought in Patterson instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Dumbest move all off season was letting Cro walk after he wanted to play here. Im glad he is having a great year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I would like to point out that most Jets fans couldn't wait to ditch Cromartie in hopes that Millner would turn out. You can flame me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Sucks they couldn't land Davis. Flowers makes me wince a little too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 No 30yo with a hip injury in the NFL is bound for a comeback year. That's why we didn't consider it. Though, hindsight, we should have. He was the worse CB in the entire NFL last yr. He wasn't repeating what he did in 2013. It wasn't a permanent injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Wow #7 CB are pretty pricey nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 How did Antonio Cromarrie go from being a bottom-five rated corner in the league to being top-five? It's almost like Rex's system is inflexible and asks corners to do stuff that only an elite talent like Darrelle Revis can do. hip injury you're better than this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 This year has been pretty much the worst case scenario for Idzik it seems. What the heck is the opposite of Midas touch? Bhasmasur's Folly? Vonte Davis being this good hurt obviously because of how close he was to signing with us. I think the Cromartie issue was more ego with Idzik than anything, and probably because of the media. Everyone wondering who runs the show, and everyone knew that Rex loved Cro, so Idzik most likely felt like he could replace the guy with someone else and then take credit if the guy did well. Since he was only here for one year to watch Cro, and that was a horrible year, he probably didn't heed to Rex's claim on having Cro back, which backfired. It would've been defensible, especially without using hindsight if Cro wanted big money or they actually had a replacement in mind. But a journeyman CB coming from a mediocre pass defense doesn't exactly fit the criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 hip injury you're better than this The dry heat really fixed him right uplololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 The "best" Cb on the team is a safety? That's about right. for the record Cromartie is not a valid option as a #1 CB. But as a #2 opposite PP (or Revis) he's actually good at it. Will ballhawk and make big plays. The Jets bringing back Cro to be a 1 CB probably wouldn't end well. But the CBs they have this year are atrocious and that's on Idzik. He got out negotiated all over the place. The list of s--tbums and losers they bought through this preseason was ridiculous. Dimitri Patterson, Johnny Patrick and Ras-I Dowling as the "veteran" options is not a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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