Integrity28 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 The Browns signed Ben Tate to a decent FA contract, and that didn't stop them from bolstering the competition at RB as they also drafted West and signed UDFA Crowell. As the season has gone on, the Browns have started a different RB from week-to-week, rewarding the player with the best week of practice with the start. This comes on the heels of them choosing Brian Hoyer as their QB over the media darling Manziel, because Hoyer out-played Manziel and earned it. This is what I'd consider an example of true competition, and the result is an over-achieving football team. What we've seen under Rex has never come close to this, in any way, shape or form. As Tate has become disgruntled over his demotion, Pettine has on a number of occasions given the blueprint for him to regain his job. He's made it clear Tate needed to outplay his backfield mates in practice, he failed to do so, and chose the route of complaining to the media. He was cut today. Not only was he benched for performance reasons, but he was kept on the bench and ultimately released for disciplinary reasons. Here with Rex, players miss meetings and get starts. It was only here in year 6, after the backlash of Geno getting the start after missing meetings that Rex finally benched a guy for disciplinary reasons. How these two could ever function in the same room together is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 The posts this thread is about to elicit will be so amusing to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Pettine was the Brains behind this defense. How else would the Jets be the only team in the NFL to hold Tom Brady under 50% completion pct in TWO games last year? Rex is riding on MP's hard work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Pettine was the Brains behind this defense. How else would the Jets be the only team in the NFL to hold Tom Brady under 50% completion pct in TWO games last year? Rex is riding on MP's hard work! The Browns lead the league in QB rating against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Pettine was the Brains behind this defense. How else would the Jets be the only team in the NFL to hold Tom Brady under 50% completion pct in TWO games last year? Rex is riding on MP's hard work! Yep Pettine with the brains and Rexey with the mouth, makes you wonder if it wasn't rexey who played deepthroat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 The Browns lead the league in QB rating against. The Jets are last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Back when he was here, I always thought Pettine would make a much better HC than Wrecks; now he's proving me right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Pettine sucks Rex made his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Mason was released for similar reasons and it didn't take 10 weeks. Thank you, goodnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Mason was released for similar reasons and it didn't take 10 weeks. Thank you, goodnight. You're adorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I still can't believe Geno started the game against the Chargers after missing the meeting. It's really remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I still can't believe Geno started the game against the Chargers after missing the meeting. It's really remarkable. Remarkable in its predictability. The coach is a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 The Browns signed Ben Tate to a decent FA contract, and that didn't stop them from bolstering the competition at RB as they also drafted West and signed UDFA Crowell. As the season has gone on, the Browns have started a different RB from week-to-week, rewarding the player with the best week of practice with the start. This comes on the heels of them choosing Brian Hoyer as their QB over the media darling Manziel, because Hoyer out-played Manziel and earned it. This is what I'd consider an example of true competition, and the result is an over-achieving football team. What we've seen under Rex has never come close to this, in any way, shape or form. As Tate has become disgruntled over his demotion, Pettine has on a number of occasions given the blueprint for him to regain his job. He's made it clear Tate needed to outplay his backfield mates in practice, he failed to do so, and chose the route of complaining to the media. He was cut today. Not only was he benched for performance reasons, but he was kept on the bench and ultimately released for disciplinary reasons. Here with Rex, players miss meetings and get starts. It was only here in year 6, after the backlash of Geno getting the start after missing meetings that Rex finally benched a guy for disciplinary reasons. How these two could ever function in the same room together is beyond me. What you said was pretty good in theory. But its not true. I'll explain. Jets had Ivory, and Powell. Nothing was wrong with Ivory's 2013 production, but they still went out and picked up CJ. Had CJ split carries almost evenly with Ivory but it became obvious who was the better back. CJ's role diminished in the offense over time. He wasn't 3.1 ypc terrible, but rather average. Jets switched around with their starting backs, CJ getting 4 starts and Ivory getting 6. They took the RBBC approach and are 5th in the league in rushing. Didn't have to release either one of them. They brought Vick over to 'mentor' Geno. It was called competition just to push Geno from the get go (everybody knew this). Geno eventually imploded completely against the Bills and has been 'rested' since then. Vick had done well so there was no need to switch back to Geno. I seem to remember a Rex team that overachieved a few times in the last 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Pettine was the Brains behind this defense. How else would the Jets be the only team in the NFL to hold Tom Brady under 50% completion pct in TWO games last year? Rex is riding on MP's hard work! Thank you. MP gets way too much credit. He was 'benched' from play calling two straight years, which ticked him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 The Browns signed Ben Tate to a decent FA contract, and that didn't stop them from bolstering the competition at RB as they also drafted West and signed UDFA Crowell. As the season has gone on, the Browns have started a different RB from week-to-week, rewarding the player with the best week of practice with the start. This comes on the heels of them choosing Brian Hoyer as their QB over the media darling Manziel, because Hoyer out-played Manziel and earned it. This is what I'd consider an example of true competition, and the result is an over-achieving football team. What we've seen under Rex has never come close to this, in any way, shape or form. As Tate has become disgruntled over his demotion, Pettine has on a number of occasions given the blueprint for him to regain his job. He's made it clear Tate needed to outplay his backfield mates in practice, he failed to do so, and chose the route of complaining to the media. He was cut today. Not only was he benched for performance reasons, but he was kept on the bench and ultimately released for disciplinary reasons. Here with Rex, players miss meetings and get starts. It was only here in year 6, after the backlash of Geno getting the start after missing meetings that Rex finally benched a guy for disciplinary reasons. How these two could ever function in the same room together is beyond me. Like I said previously I think Pettine kept Rex in order as best he could when they first got here. As soon as Pettine left Rex's defense began to decline not because of X' and O's but because Rex had no admin skills what so ever and Ill bet Pettine handled all of those duties for him. Pettine should be the coach of the NY Jets not Rex Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Pettine sucks Rex made his career That's pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucrenegade Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Yep Pettine with the brains and Rexey with the mouth, makes you wonder if it wasn't rexey who played deepthroat. this or at least rexy knew what was going on......................if you read collision low crossers the author said time and time again everytime rex wanted to do something stupid like run plays in the game not practiced pettine had to talk him out of it. i said it many times before pettine will be and is a better coach. We kept the wrong guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Pettine sucks Rex made his career http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201311170buf.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Thank you. MP gets way too much credit. He was 'benched' from play calling two straight years, which ticked him off. I believe this is a true statement so who is the DC for Browns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 ben tate ? we talkin' 'bout ben tate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Thank you. MP gets way too much credit. He was 'benched' from play calling two straight years, which ticked him off. All this means is that Rex might be a better defensive coordinator than Pettine. This thread is about Pettine showing signs he's better equipped to be a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 All this means is that Rex might be a better defensive coordinator than Pettine. This thread is about Pettine showing signs he's better equipped to be a head coach. rex is too loyal for his own good. it will be what gets him fired ultimately but benching ben tate is no reason to take a bow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 All this means is that Rex might be a better defensive coordinator than Pettine. This thread is about Pettine showing signs he's better equipped to be a head coach. Rex is a better HC than Pettine too. We'll see how Pettine does beyond a 10 game stretch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Who decided the starting QB? Pettine or the GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 rex is too loyal for his own good. it will be what gets him fired ultimately but benching ben tate is no reason to take a bow So, 4 losing seasons in a row won't get him fired, loyalty will. It's not so much about Ben Tate, as it is about the act of benching / dismissing a guy that doesn't compete and becomes divisive as a result. Look at Chris Johnson whining about not getting playing time, then look at Chris Johnson's performance. CJ got benched, but it took forever and now he's bitching. Pac used the example of Derrick Mason, but the reality is Mason wasn't the only veteran WR causing problems at that time. He was just the new guy with the easiest contract to cut. Holmes was made captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Rex is a better HC than Pettine too. We'll see how Pettine does beyond a 10 game stretch Rex's playoff teams were chock full of veteran talent. Pettine's team is chock full of garbage. He's done this with a WR corps arguably worse than ours, he doesn't have anywhere close to the talent on D, he's using a journeyman QB, and has a beat up OL. I think what's he's doing is impressive. I wish Rex could coach above the talent level here. He only seemed to do so in the final month of last season, when his job was on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Rex is a better HC than Pettine too. Pettine takes a crappy team and has them in the playoff hunt. Rex takes playoff teams and turns them into top 5 draft pick teams. Yea, Rex is a much better HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Thank you. MP gets way too much credit. He was 'benched' from play calling two straight years, which ticked him off. Don't believe everything u read or u will go senile too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Let Pettine make it through a full season before we anoint him the next Lombardi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 The Browns signed Ben Tate to a decent FA contract, and that didn't stop them from bolstering the competition at RB as they also drafted West and signed UDFA Crowell. As the season has gone on, the Browns have started a different RB from week-to-week, rewarding the player with the best week of practice with the start. This comes on the heels of them choosing Brian Hoyer as their QB over the media darling Manziel, because Hoyer out-played Manziel and earned it. This is what I'd consider an example of true competition, and the result is an over-achieving football team. What we've seen under Rex has never come close to this, in any way, shape or form. As Tate has become disgruntled over his demotion, Pettine has on a number of occasions given the blueprint for him to regain his job. He's made it clear Tate needed to outplay his backfield mates in practice, he failed to do so, and chose the route of complaining to the media. He was cut today. Not only was he benched for performance reasons, but he was kept on the bench and ultimately released for disciplinary reasons. Here with Rex, players miss meetings and get starts. It was only here in year 6, after the backlash of Geno getting the start after missing meetings that Rex finally benched a guy for disciplinary reasons. How these two could ever function in the same room together is beyond me. The Hoyer call was interesting. But Rex didn't have an option like that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Pettine takes a crappy team and has them in the playoff hunt. Rex takes playoff teams and turns them into top 5 draft pick teams. Yea, Rex is a much better HC. Yeah Pettine's final grade is in. Got it. Rex seemed great after two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Pettine takes a crappy team and has them in the playoff hunt. Rex takes playoff teams and turns them into top 5 draft pick teams. Yea, Rex is a much better HC. How many Rex Ryan coached teams have picked in the Top 5 in the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 FWIW, while I'm starting to agree with the overall assessment, West and Crowell are both better backs than Tate. Tate danced around in the backfield a lot and West does some of the same but is a bit more explosive. Crowell is the best by a good bit, IMO, but can't keep his hands on the ball. It makes cutting Tate, who is the most expensive of the three, considerably easier. All that said, I do agree that if these three were the backs for the Jets and performing as they currently are that Tate wouldn't be cut here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucrenegade Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Let Pettine make it through a full season before we anoint him the next Lombardi. no one is saying that but you don't have to be lombardi ot be better than rex. hell you don't even have to be as good as coughlin in case you haven't noticed rex's bar is not set that high. so yes pettine is better than rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucrenegade Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 FWIW, while I'm starting to agree with the overall assessment, West and Crowell are both better backs than Tate. Tate danced around in the backfield a lot and West does some of the same but is a bit more explosive. Crowell is the best by a good bit, IMO, but can't keep his hands on the ball. It makes cutting Tate, who is the most expensive of the three, considerably easier. All that said, I do agree that if these three were the backs for the Jets and performing as they currently are that Tate wouldn't be cut here. not only would rex not cut him but he would still be starting and forget a competiton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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