lancemehl Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Frankly I will wait till end of the season to decide whether Rex gets fired or not. Even if the JETS finish 5-11, 6-10 I see Rex coming back. Unless there is a very strong candidate willing to sign up with the JETS. A Gruden or a Cowher might make the JETS think again. I think Idzik is on a much shaky ground. Which may not be fair to him but is the reality of the situation. Idk Dont you think the overruling of Rex's QB decision basically telegraph the situation? They quite obviously dont want Rex to win. Theyve done everything possible to sabotage this season. I'm surprised they havn't cut his brake cable. lol But let's also TRY, for once, to have an honest perspective. We would have been down to put Parcells face on the helmet after ONE playoff win and a trip to the AFCC. Rex won FOUR games to do it TWICE. Weeb Ewbank sucked for years before SB3 and then sailed through 5 more lackluster seasons, including two 4-12s--AND STILL retiref on his own. This, back in the "glory days" We would probably piss ourselves if we brought in John Gruden, even though his Raiders did crap and he made the playoffs only twice in the next six years after his one SB, and only won 10 games in a season once. Mike Shanahan is a name that always pops up during head coach hiring time, based on his 2 rings, and he's about to get fired from his second team. Then there's Coughlin, who was a dead man walking a couple years after his first SB win, survived, and came back to win another, and now he's on the block again. And of course, two "losers" we basically said good riddance to when they left us, Belichick and Carroll........ I guess the point is that there have been "worse" coaches kept, "better" coaches fired, and vice versa and vice versa and the results have all varied wildly. lol It's about management, assisstants, personnel, schedule, performances, turnovers, calls....luck...for the most part. The reality is that a coach who gets to this level can't "suck". Thats why I think you have to judge them based on their best. Im NOT saying Rex should stay or go, because there are so many factors involved, idk. BUT to say that Rex can NEVER win a SB (when he was 5 points away from facing a team he held to 9 points that season, for example) is silly. (Thats like saying Mark Sanchez can never win a super bowl, and he's about to this year......lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Just how many resources are we supposed to devote to the secondary? It's by far the most overrated location to spend your money and picks, yet it's the one place other than DL we've put the most resources towards in the Rex era. Before the Seahawks Super Bowl victory, can you even name the corners or safeties on the 2013 Ravens, 2012 Giants, 2011 Packers (Woodson?), 2010 Saints or 2009 Steelers? And even with their great secondary those mighty Seahawks are 6-4. The Eagles and Cardinals can't stop the pass at all and are the top 2 teams in the NFC. I'm not saying secondary isn't important. But the premium teams spend on corners these days just isn't worth it. We drafted Dee Milliner, Kyle Wilson and Calvin Pryor in the 1st. In financial terms none of them cost a lot, but in draft resources that's a heavy price to pay. Plus we'd previously spent big-time on Revis and Cromartie, which won us exactly 0 trophies. Over-paying for a Vontae Davis or DRC would maybe put us at 3-7 or 4-6. Which would put us in a pick range to select another corner/safety and start the cycle all over again. It wouldve been nice to spend the ALL the money alloted under the cap at least, which could have bought an entirely upgraded secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 When has that ever happened? It would make the locker room politics a Watergate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 When has that ever happened? It would make the locker room politics a Watergate. This. Someone gets it. This would be worse than Rex as a HC. Talk about dividing a team, backstabbing, rumors. NY beat writers would love it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 It wouldve been nice to spend the ALL the money alloted under the cap at least, which could have bought an entirely upgraded secondary. Then we'd be sitting here with 4 wins and no cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 There's a better chance of Joe Paterno being our defensive coordinator than Rex. He's going to tv or getting a DC gig somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Then we'd be sitting here with 4 wins and no cap space. Revis and Cromartie are playing on one year deals. There would still be 5 mil leftover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Revis and Cromartie are playing on one year deals. There would still be 5 mil leftover. Don't even bother trying to argue with someone who's still defending Idsuck. There is no excuse for the Jets not having been able to build talent-wise off what was a surprisingly decent season last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Revis and Cromartie are playing on one year deals. There would still be 5 mil leftover. Cromartie sucks. There's a good reason he only got $3M on that 1 year deal and the league determined that was his market value. The Cardinals pass defense was among the worst in the league, with Cromartie getting destroyed repeatedly, until their pass rush decided to come alive. They've gotten 17 sacks in the last 3 weeks. It's easy to hide your awful secondary when you do that. Since we have no pass rush, Cro would be getting burned repeatedly here and we'd be wondering why that idiot Idzik brought back a bum with a bad hip. And Revis at his best never carried us to the playoffs on his own. Because that's not what corners can do for you. They're complimentary pieces, not QB-money pieces. Not to mention Revis was NEVER going to come back here, especially not on a 1-year deal. Give it a rest. Don't even bother trying to argue with someone who's still defending Idsuck. There is no excuse for the Jets not having been able to build talent-wise off what was a surprisingly decent season last year. I'm only defending Idzik on his spending in free agency. Him being frugal has made it so that if he gets fired the next GM doesn't have to step into an awful cap situation like Idzik was thrown into following the Tanennabum era. As for Idzik's drafts, they've been an abject failure. There's no denying this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Don't even bother trying to argue with someone who's still defending Idsuck. There is no excuse for the Jets not having been able to build talent-wise off what was a surprisingly decent season last year. Has there ever been a team in history that has held 20 million dollars back , whose owner wasn't going bankrupt or whose gm wasnt trying to sabotage a season so he could fire a "popular" hc? You figure a multi-billionaire wouldnt need to save cash on a $130 mil salary cap. So, its either that or he was completely incompetent. Even if a team is fully rebuilding, there are one-year deals. He was supposed to be a cap specialist. He's either incompetent or a shady dick. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Cromartie sucks. There's a good reason he only got $3M on that 1 year deal and the league determined that was his market value. The Cardinals pass defense was among the worst in the league, with Cromartie getting destroyed repeatedly, until their pass rush decided to come alive. They've gotten 17 sacks in the last 3 weeks. It's easy to hide your awful secondary when you do that. Since we have no pass rush, Cro would be getting burned repeatedly here and we'd be wondering why that idiot Idzik brought back a bum with a bad hip. And Revis at his best never carried us to the playoffs on his own. Because that's not what corners can do for you. They're complimentary pieces, not QB-money pieces. Not to mention Revis was NEVER going to come back here, especially not on a 1-year deal. Give it a rest. I'm only defending Idzik on his spending in free agency. Him being frugal has made it so that if he gets fired the next GM doesn't have to step into an awful cap situation like Idzik was thrown into following the Tanennabum era. As for Idzik's drafts, they've been an abject failure. There's no denying this. Wow, I disagree with just about everything. lol Not one person would have bitched because Idzig gave 3 mil to keep Cro here for a year, on a team with Dee Milner leading the pack. He went to the pro bowl last year for us. He doesnt suck. Revis WAS absolutely coming here for a year. Who ever said he would take us to the playoffs singlehandedly? The point is that what he makes this year, we have laying around. We could sign him without making a ripple on the salary cap situation. We are talking about, a one year deal. I think you're missing that. That 20 mil laying around can be used on one year deals, like revis and cro are on, and STILL be there for the next GM (which, im sure, is Idzig's concern lol). See that? The desperate grab for Percy Harvin spoke volumes. And he has little to do with draftinh. Thats Bradways department. He does the money. And the only thing the Jets do have is a pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Gunther Cunningham was fired as HC of the Chiefs and replaced by Dick Vermeil. He was rehired a few years later as Vermeil's DC. Don't think there has ever been a HC immediately demoted to coordinator position. Rex would be stupid enough to look stupid and make that move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 No Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Wow, I disagree with just about everything. lol Not one person would have bitched because Idzig gave 3 mil to keep Cro here for a year, on a team with Dee Milner leading the pack. He went to the pro bowl last year for us. He doesnt suck. Revis WAS absolutely coming here for a year. Who ever said he would take us to the playoffs singlehandedly? The point is that what he makes this year, we have laying around. We could sign him without making a ripple on the salary cap situation. We are talking about, a one year deal. I think you're missing that. That 20 mil laying around can be used on one year deals, like revis and cro are on, and STILL be there for the next GM (which, im sure, is Idzig's concern lol). See that? The desperate grab for Percy Harvin spoke volumes. And he has little to do with draftinh. Thats Bradways department. He does the money. And the only thing the Jets do have is a pass rush. Like I said, no chance does Revis come here, and especially not on a 1 year deal. And you can disagree all you want. Doesn't make Cromartie not suck. Neither of those guys gets us anywhere this year. We'd be sitting here at 4 wins, outside of top 5 pick range. Woopee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Has there ever been a team in history that has held 20 million dollars back , whose owner wasn't going bankrupt or whose gm wasnt trying to sabotage a season so he could fire a "popular" hc? You figure a multi-billionaire wouldnt need to save cash on a $130 mil salary cap. So, its either that or he was completely incompetent. Even if a team is fully rebuilding, there are one-year deals. He was supposed to be a cap specialist. He's either incompetent or a shady dick. lol He's just an idiot. Idzik had a little bit of victory disease after Rex was able to squeeze 8 wins out of a terrible roster last year so Idzik figured he was one Eric Decker and D'Mitri Patterson away from 10+ wins. Why spend money and take risks on guys like Desean Jackson and Darrelle Revis when good ol' Rex can go 8-8 with garbage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I heard around here that Rex is a terrible DC also. Rex needs to get more experience possibly at the college ranks and learn the offense side of things. If he can do that I can see him as HC of the Jets again someday, but never as a DC. He'll always have opportunities as a DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 While we let Rex be on the team as a DC can we let Idzik be a cap specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 ive thought the same thing. but too much ego. Look how long it takes for him to realize players suck, can you imagine how long it will take for him to realize he sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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