House Jet Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Maybe we sign Dez Bryant and ask his babysitter to double up with Winston? assuming idzik stays, this is right up his alley two babies sat for the price of one, what a steal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 If it's between Winston and Marriota I'm taking the latter. Winston is a constant headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Winston tastes good like a cigarette should !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 And if we trade for Reggie Bush... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copernicus Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Winston,his off field issues, in NY, with this media and fan base would be a recipe for disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 If it's between Winston and Marriota I'm taking the latter. Winston is a constant headache. but he never loses and the jets never win problem = solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Gotta wait till 2016, don't see him leaving school this year. Don't see us a playoff team in 2015 either. Seems like we're destined to pick him, start him from day 1 n have him fall flat on his ass for a couple of years till we draft crotch-fumble...rinse n repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Mariota all day, Winston is not a player you blow a top 5 pick on. He's got more red flags then a Farrari convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Yeah, it's not like those ever matter. brains don't matter either apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Geno is more talented than Bridgewater? Your football IQ keeps going down year after year. geno has the better arm, better runner, better athlete. it's really not even close. and you haven't used your dick since nixon was in the white house so I'd stay away from age jokes if i was you , lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 so they just showed the ref push thing on espn I dunno how to feel about that. you want your QB to be an alpha male, aggresive and confident, but pushing the ref out of the way smacks of arrogance and entitlement that could derail a young multi millionaire in about a month what say you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucrenegade Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 so they just showed the ref push thing on espn I dunno how to feel about that. you want your QB to be an alpha male, aggresive and confident, but pushing the ref out of the way smacks of arrogance and entitlement that could derail a young multi millionaire in about a month what say you ? he is a headcase waiting to happen this is with him winning imagine if he comes to NY and has to deal with the fans, media, and the losses i shudder to think how he will deal with failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxville Jets Fan Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 geno has the better arm, better runner, better athlete. it's really not even close. and you haven't used your dick since nixon was in the white house so I'd stay away from age jokes if i was you , lol For what it's worth, Matt Williamson, a former NFL scout said exactly the same thing earlier in the season -- that Geno has better tools than Bridgewater. I'm not saying I want Geno as my QB, but Bridgewater is not cut out to be a QB in the AFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Winston will have the same maturity issues as Newton, RGIII and Manziel....Add that personality to New York and the Jets = Full Fledge Disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 For what it's worth, Matt Williamson, a former NFL scout said exactly the same thing earlier in the season -- that Geno has better tools than Bridgewater. I'm not saying I want Geno as my QB, but Bridgewater is not cut out to be a QB in the AFC East. txs, didn't know that. physical tools has never been his issue. he throws some really pretty spirals, total lasers right on the money. If you read all the pre-draft stuff, they mention the aloofness, the lack of leadership, all the signs were there that he could bust but it was never a talent issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I wouldn't take this guy, especially number 1. He's a train wreck waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 txs, didn't know that. physical tools has never been his issue. he throws some really pretty spirals, total lasers right on the money. If you read all the pre-draft stuff, they mention the aloofness, the lack of leadership, all the signs were there that he could bust but it was never a talent issue That's the stuff that scared me before the draft, and I think that's what we've seen. I don't think he's dumb, but I do think he lacks mental resiliency. When things start to go bad with him, he drops into a vortex where it just keeps getting worse. The thing where he stands off by himself pouting when the defense is on the field, it's easy to see why the players don't rally behind him. There so much more to the position than the physical gifts - which he has! He's not a natural leader, that much has become clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 No. No he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 i like that his last name is the same as my cigarettes. I can't wait til Newport comes out with a quarterback. Menthol, hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 -Has familiarity in a pro style offense -Has the size and arm talent -Can anticipate throws and throws guys open -Great under pressure and late in games -Can tune out negativity while on the field All these factors makes him our new franchise QB. Forget the off field issues. I doubt the Jets will lose enough to get him. TB will draft ahead of us and they will take him. Jets MIGHT have a shot at Mariota, but I don't really like him. I would draft an OT in round one and shoot for a guy like Bryce Petty in second or third round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 That's the stuff that scared me before the draft, and I think that's what we've seen. I don't think he's dumb, but I do think he lacks mental resiliency. When things start to go bad with him, he drops into a vortex where it just keeps getting worse. The thing where he stands off by himself pouting when the defense is on the field, it's easy to see why the players don't rally behind him. There so much more to the position than the physical gifts - which he has! He's not a natural leader, that much has become clear. yup. my dad (giants fan) has mentioned several times he has never seen geno looking at the pictures of the opposing defense with the coaches on the sidelines in between drives, he always seems to be alone on the bench weird another poster has also posted that he has inside info geno is a pothead if true, it explains a lot imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I don't care who we get anymore. Bring back Tebow and run the wishbone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I think he's more ready than Mariota, but he does remind me of a Leftwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 please no. the dude is an interception machine in college. he will throw 20 interceptions easily in the pros. we don't need any more turnover machines. plus the dude is a behavior problem. huge mistake if we draft this idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I wouldn't take a chance on him with the Jets pick. Idzik can't afford to be wrong with another top 10 pick and to be honest I don't see Winston being anything more than an average starter who will flash just as many times as he makes you want to bash your own head against a wall. It's Amari Cooper all the way. He's the real deal, an undeniable talent on the same level as Julio Jones coming out of college. Look to retain Vick or bring in Brian Hoyer to work with a then very good receiving corp and running game. Make those moves after dumping some money into the offensive line during free agency (Mike Iupati) and the Jets offense could be very good going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 please no. the dude is an interception machine in college. he will throw 20 interceptions easily in the pros. we don't need any more turnover machines. plus the dude is a behavior problem. huge mistake if we draft this idiot This (although 20 is a VERY conservative estimate, IMO). Not to mention he's playing against defenses in the ACC that look worse than my Pop Warner teams back in the day…imagine how much worse he'd look in the SEC, let alone the NFL! The people talking about "all he does is win" fail to account for 1) him playing on arguably the most talent rich team in all of CFB, and 2) barely scraping by the dregs of the ACC that any competent QB would be blowing out of the water with the supporting cast Winston has. Ryan Leaf. JaMarcus Russell. Vince Young. Jameis Winston. Guy is as much of a lock to bust as any QB in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I like his wind up and delivery. I like that he gets on his teammates on the sidelines and coaches them up. He might be immature, but he's what, 20 yo? He's a redshirt sophomore who owns a Heisman. If there was ever a mold to coach up, he's it. You can't teach size, and he has it. You can't teach escapability and arm strength. If he's there, I think you HAVE to pick him. Let him sit for half a season (or a whole one if Mike survives) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 ^that being said, I take Mariota at the 1 spot. But JW isn't a bad consolation prize for THIS organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I wouldn't take a chance on him with the Jets pick. Idzik can't afford to be wrong with another top 10 pick and to be honest I don't see Winston being anything more than an average starter who will flash just as many times as he makes you want to bash your own head against a wall. It's Amari Cooper all the way. He's the real deal, an undeniable talent on the same level as Julio Jones coming out of college. Look to retain Vick or bring in Brian Hoyer to work with a then very good receiving corp and running game. Make those moves after dumping some money into the offensive line during free agency (Mike Iupati) and the Jets offense could be very good going forward. if its between cooper and Winston then I agree. cooper all the way. don't want Winston. dude will be a jamarcus level loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 if its between cooper and Winston then I agree. cooper all the way. don't want Winston. dude will be a jamarcus level loser Please no Cooper to Jets please 1) Why kill his career? 2) Bama is a bust producer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Copper over Jameis even if that means another year of Vick! Wish this Kaaya kid from Miami was a couple years older, man he looks like the real total package. Arm, reads, leadership, poise, height, but only 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 FSU isn't nearly as talented as they were last year fwiw. No they're not but they are still stacked. Which is why I think his #s aren't bear what they were last year. But his ability to lift the teams and get everyone rallied around him along with ice cold veins whenever they need it can't be denied. Everyone talking about his picks fails to mention they never show up on those game winning drives. Ever. It's crazy. His 2nd half stats vs first half are insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 No they're not but they are still stacked. Which is why I think his #s aren't bear what they were last year. But his ability to lift the teams and get everyone rallied around him along with ice cold veins whenever they need it can't be denied. Everyone talking about his picks fails to mention they never show up on those game winning drives. Ever. It's crazy. His 2nd half stats vs first half are insane. I wont be shocked if Gators beat them If FSU was in SEC west they are no better than 7-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 No they're not but they are still stacked. Which is why I think his #s aren't bear what they were last year. But his ability to lift the teams and get everyone rallied around him along with ice cold veins whenever they need it can't be denied. Everyone talking about his picks fails to mention they never show up on those game winning drives. Ever. It's crazy. His 2nd half stats vs first half are insane. You sound like Smashmouth defending Sanchez in 2011. Winston leads his team to come from behind wins because he plays like sh*t for 3 quarters most weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I wont be shocked if Gators beat them If FSU was in SEC west they are no better than 7-4 No doubt. The ACC is a joke but that doesn't means these guys aren't getting everyone's best shot and that 27 straight is easy. The kid continues to perform. Continues a to make the plays when they need it. He's far from a sure shot but he's the guy between him Mariota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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