SoFlaJets Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Very Close To The Worst Ever? OK I know the 2014 Jets will have at least 1 more win that the '96 debacle but had it not been for the Raiders... The #30 rated 2014 Jets Offense; Has scored 177 points so far this year for a mindblowing average of 16.1 PPG While The #30 rated 2014 Jets the "VAUNTED Rex Ryan defense" has surrendered 303 points for an average of 27.5 PPG right now at 11 games in the Jets have a negative 126 point differential The #27 rated 1996 Jets Offense scored 279 Pts at a 17.4 PPG clip and the #29th rated defense of perhaps the worst Jets team ever allowed 454 Pts at a 28.4 PPG pace that '96 team had a -175 Point differential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 i'm worried our defense will stink next year if we fire rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 i'm worried our defense will stink next year if we fire rex Yea I know what you mean John, what WILL we do when a team takes it down and scores on them right before the half in 9 out of the 1st 11 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Yea I know what you mean John, what WILL we do when a team takes it down and scores on them right before the half in 9 out of the 1st 11 games? if we restock the defense next year with all our draft picks and pick up the top 2 or 3 FAs, i'm sure rex can get back into the top 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 i'm worried our defense will stink next year if we fire rex It's like you expect Rex to be able to field a competent secondary without two former first rounders, pro bowlers, and over 20M in salary starting at CB... How can anyone do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 It's like you expect Rex to be able to field a competent secondary without two former first rounders, pro bowlers, and over 20M in salary starting at CB... How can anyone do that? i'd expect a defensive genius to figure something out, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 FO doesn't have the numbers for this past week tabulated yet but through week 11 we had a DVOA estimated W/L of 4.6-5.4 and the hardest schedule in the league by a pretty significant margin. So not within this entire forum's aggregate shrieking distance of the worst ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Its the worst group of talent I've ever seen accumulated on a single Football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Its the worst group of talent I've ever seen accumulated on a single Football team. Agreed, and you know if you go back and look at that 96 season they actually got better and closer to winning whereas this cast of characters have all but given up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Over Under: Jets score 90 points in their last 5 games of the season. I say under Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 FO doesn't have the numbers for this past week tabulated yet but through week 11 we had a DVOA estimated W/L of 4.6-5.4 and the hardest schedule in the league by a pretty significant margin. So not within this entire forum's aggregate shrieking distance of the worst ever. Also, I went back and checked, and throughout Rex's tenure our estimated wins have accurately tracked our actual wins. Sometimes it really is as simple as sh*t happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Over Under: Jets score 90 points in their last 5 games of the season. I say under definitely under, i wouldn't take the over unless it was under 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Also, I went back and checked, and throughout Rex's tenure our estimated wins have accurately tracked our actual wins. Sometimes it really is as simple as sh*t happens. can somebody please decipher Loneyhearts posts for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This team talent wise rivals the 95 team more than it does the 96 team. That 95 team even though it won 3 games was probably the worst Jets team I had seen since 75-76. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 It's like you expect Rex to be able to field a competent secondary without two former first rounders, pro bowlers, and over 20M in salary starting at CB... How can anyone do that? i'd expect a defensive genius to figure something out, yes. There's a huge middle ground between only getting first rounders and starting street free agents. I couldn't pick #24 or #22 out of a lineup right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 There's a huge middle ground between only getting first rounders and starting street free agents. I couldn't pick #24 or #22 out of a lineup right now. Yeah, just ask the Dallas Cowboys, whose defense is patched together with a bunch of street free agents and draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Its the worst group of talent I've ever seen accumulated on a single Football team. Coached by some of the most inept brains I have ever seen on a team. Can someone tell the jets special teams, it is OK to take a touchback, as opposed to being pinned on the 8 yard line? Or, that when 1 person is essentially rushing the punt, don't just let him steamroll a block? Absolutely pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 can somebody please decipher Loneyhearts posts for me? Cliffs: we're not as bad as our record says even if your eyes agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Cliffs: we're not as bad as our record says even if your eyes agree. We're not getting any better though either. The Bills suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 There's a huge middle ground between only getting first rounders and starting street free agents. I couldn't pick #24 or #22 out of a lineup right now. it's more than that. rex has also failed to develop his last 3 first rounders on defense. edit: sorry meant secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Coached by some of the most inept brains I have ever seen on a team. Can someone tell the jets special teams, it is OK to take a touchback, as opposed to being pinned on the 8 yard line? Or, that when 1 person is essentially rushing the punt, don't just let him steamroll a block? Absolutely pathetic The brains werent inept when there was talent. But yeah, whats taking place right now is some of the worst coaching I've seen since Eric Mangini and Herm Edwards before him. haha. ******* Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 We're not getting any better though either. The Bills suck. I don't know what that means, and no, they really don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I don't know what that means, and no, they really don't. Yeah, they do. It means they're not getting any better ie the guys drafted the past two years all suck besides Richardson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 it's more than that. rex has also failed to develop his last 3 first rounders on defense. #undeveloped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The brains werent inept when there was talent. But yeah, whats taking place right now is some of the worst coaching I've seen since Eric Mangini and Herm Edwards before him. haha. ******* Jets. I can pinpoint the exact moment that Rex Ryan became STUPID. When he hired on Tony Sparano. And this was totally a Ryan hire, and there is not much else that can be stated about that. Rex was enamored with the wildcat, because HE could not defense it. If Rex can't defense it, it hs to genius, in his mind. He couldn't only leave it at the wildcat. They then had to get real cute and bring Tebow in. Then it was all down hill. This was Rex's foray into offense. It may be one of the dumbest ideas ever constructed around the Jets, aside from someone thinking Lou Holtz would transfer from college to pro ranks, and that Rich Kotite would be a great coach after what we saw in Philadelphia. I have no soft feelings for Rex. He helped bring this upon himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Yeah, they do. It means they're not getting any better ie the guys drafted the past two years all suck besides Richardson. The Bills are loaded with talent. 1st rounders and 2nd rounders all over the field. 5 top 10 picks. They just have Kyle "the mush" Orton leading their team. I can pinpoint the exact moment that Rex Ryan became STUPID. When he hired on Tony Sparano. And this was totally a Ryan hire, and there is not much else that can be stated about that. Rex was enamored with the wildcat, because HE could not defense it. If Rex can't defense it, it hs to genius, in his mind. He couldn't only leave it at the wildcat. They then had to get real cute and bring Tebow in. Then it was all down hill. This was Rex's foray into offense. It may be one of the dumbest ideas ever constructed around the Jets, aside from someone thinking Lou Holtz would transfer from college to pro ranks, and that Rich Kotite would be a great coach after what we saw in Philadelphia. I have no soft feelings for Rex. He helped bring this upon himself. The day Rex went stupid. I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The Bills are loaded with talent. 1st rounders and 2nd rounders all over the field. 5 top 10 picks. They just have Kyle "the mush" Orton leading their team. The day Rex went stupid. I like it! Bills dline is nasty. Their offense, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Bills dline is nasty. Their offense, not so much. Their success in the red zone was abysmal. Last night they wen 3-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Very Close To The Worst Ever? OK I know the 2014 Jets will have at least 1 more win that the '96 debacle but had it not been for the Raiders... The #30 rated 2014 Jets Offense; Has scored 177 points so far this year for a mindblowing average of 16.1 PPG While The #30 rated 2014 Jets the "VAUNTED Rex Ryan defense" has surrendered 303 points for an average of 27.5 PPG right now at 11 games in the Jets have a negative 126 point differential The #27 rated 1996 Jets Offense scored 279 Pts at a 17.4 PPG clip and the #29th rated defense of perhaps the worst Jets team ever allowed 454 Pts at a 28.4 PPG pace that '96 team had a -175 Point differential Silly SoFla. Vaunted. VAUNTED I TELL YOU! How can anyone who creates and breathes vauntedness like Rex does be fired I ask you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 #undeveloped brainfart meant secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 caught me editing, changed it to secondary 15 seconds after posting originally I wouldn't exactly say he failed at developing Milliner. The kid kept getting better and kept getting hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I wouldn't exactly say he failed at developing Milliner. The kid kept getting better and kept getting hurt. until you succeed, you failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I wouldn't exactly say he failed at developing Milliner. The kid kept getting better and kept getting hurt. Keep holding at hope for Rex, Dom,maybe he can still save his skin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The Bills are loaded with talent. 1st rounders and 2nd rounders all over the field. 5 top 10 picks. They just have Kyle "the mush" Orton leading their team. Bills were smart to get Orton. Unlike Rex who can never objectively evaluate his team--they are always "the best I ever had since being here"--Bills knew they had a shot to punch ticket to playoffs this year on back of defense and just needed someone to turn to at QB because they were willing to admit to themselves that EJ might not be 'the guy." For the Jets, every player is the best ever, and gets Rex's "full confidence" and when he is finally forced to pull a guy, be it from Idzik, total ridiculous incompetence, or public pressure or Woody or whatever, he acts like he just had to shoot his kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Bills were smart to get Orton. Unlike Rex who can never objectively evaluate his team--they are always "the best I ever had since being here"--Bills knew they had a shot to punch ticket to playoffs this year on back of defense and just needed someone to turn to at QB because they were willing to admit to themselves that EJ might not be 'the guy." For the Jets, every player is the best ever, and gets Rex's "full confidence" and when he is finally forced to pull a guy, be it from Idzik, total ridiculous incompetence, or public pressure or Woody or whatever, he acts like he just had to shoot his kid. Orton sucks and you've been running around sucking off Sanchez and screaming for Vick. lulza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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