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based on.........

Based on the fact that to do better than Vick or Geno would mean completing some passes and acting like he gives a sh*t. That's it. That's all he has to do.

He has to be better than two idiots that haven't cared in more than 5 weeks.

This isnt even about Simms vs the other two any more, IMO. Everything about geno and vick on game day reeks of indifference and thuggery. Watching them pout on the sideline or bench, sipping their Gatorade with their pouty god damn faces, totally not giving a sh*t is akin to sticking a fork in my eye.

Trotting Geno or Vick out into the starting lineup is a slap in the face to all who love and respect the game of football.

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Simms scout report says it all. Ive been pushing him and putting up vids and links for a long time so if you want to know why go research yourself. him not seeing the field is based on internal drama IMO. This team is all internal drama. Mariotta is destined to fail because he's coming out of Oregon. They don't produce NFL talent. WInston is only guy to go for in the draft if SImms doesnt get a shot.

 

his college scouting report ?  really ?

 

Based on the fact that to do better than Vick or Geno would mean completing some passes and acting like he gives a sh*t. That's it. That's all he has to do.

He has to be better than two idiots that haven't cared in more than 5 weeks.

This isnt even about Simms vs the other two any more, IMO. Everything about geno and vick on game day reeks of indifference and thuggery. Watching them pout on the sideline or bench, sipping their Gatorade with their pouty god damn faces, totally not giving a sh*t is akin to sticking a fork in my eye.

Trotting Geno or Vick out into the starting lineup is a slap in the face to all who love and respect the game of football.

 

playing simms just because would be fraud.  it would mean asking people to pay $$$ for an exhibition game, practice, and experiment

 

 

neither of you made anything close to an argument based on what simms is as a player right now

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 You don't have evidence SIMMS is worse either.

 

Matt Simms was 3 of 8 in 4th Q against the Chiefs. That's 37%. He also rushed for 2 yards. It wasn't exactly garbagio time either as they were down 2 scores at the time. 

 

he also went 16-31 in 2013, that's 51%

 

There is actually evidence. 

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LOL

Starting SIMMS is fraud? That makes starting Vick ir Geno Bernie Madoff.

I'll agree I haven't used evidence...I don't need it. The other two do not deserve to play based on preparation and attitude.

You don't have evidence SIMMS is worse either.

 

when the jets waived him, why did he clear waivers ?

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what has he shown you that makes you believe he's worth giving up 2 seasons for and not drafting mariotta or winston ?

When did I ever suggest that?

I suggested that the Jets are carryimg three QBs. Two of them, Vick and GodNO have proven beyond any doubt that they stink.

Let's give the third one a chance.

If you are suggesting that our two morons are sticking with Vick and GodNO in order to seal up 2-14 and get Mariota in the draft, maybe they are since that would be the only reason to run either of those proven failures out on the field again....

But, if that is the strategy of idzik and/or Rex its a pretty dumb one since it probably gets them both canned and allows some new GM/Coach combo draft and develop the Duck

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When did I ever suggest that?

I suggested that the Jets are carryimg three QBs. Two of them, Vick and GodNO have proven beyond any doubt that they stink.

Let's give the third one a chance.

If you are suggesting that our two morons are sticking with Vick and GodNO in order to seal up 2-14 and get Mariota in the draft, maybe they are since that would be the only reason to run either of those proven failures out on the field again....

But, if that is the strategy of idzik and/or Rex its a pretty dumb one since it probably gets them both canned and allows some new GM/Coach combo draft and develop the Duck

 

wait

 

you don't think he's the future, you just want to start him for the **** of it ?

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wait

you don't think he's the future, you just want to start him for the **** of it ?

Actually neither.

I think it would make sense to.give him a chance to show whether he is less crappy than the two proven pieces of crap currently also on the roster

Maybe he is good enough to be the backup to Mariota or some vet we acquire so we can get rid of the two proven losers

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Matt Simms was 3 of 8 in 4th Q against the Chiefs. That's 37%. He also rushed for 2 yards. It wasn't exactly garbagio time either as they were down 2 scores at the time.

he also went 16-31 in 2013, that's 51%

There is actually evidence.

There is no evidence stating he does not deserve the start over Geno and Vick.

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Matt Simms was 3 of 8 in 4th Q against the Chiefs. That's 37%. He also rushed for 2 yards. It wasn't exactly garbagio time either as they were down 2 scores at the time.

he also went 16-31 in 2013, that's 51%

There is actually evidence.

He needs an actual whole game (at a minimum)

And like someone else wrote, putting Geno or Vick out there is a disgrace. Vick doesn't respect the game (he admitted he wasn't ready when he got a shot) while Geno is horrible.

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Actually neither.

I think it would make sense to.give him a chance to show whether he is less crappy than the two proven pieces of crap currently also on the roster

Maybe he is good enough to be the backup to Mariota or some vet we acquire so we can get rid of the two proven losers

 

why do you need to find out anything about the PS QB ?

 

I say don't ruin his confidence putting him out there with this putrid offense.  maybe give him week 17, but starting him now with a healthy geno and vick is just a clown shoes move

 

we've had enough of those

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why do you need to find out anything about the PS QB ?

I say don't ruin his confidence putting him out there with this putrid offense. maybe give him week 17, but starting him now with a healthy geno and vick is just a clown shoes move

we've had enough of those

Have to respectfully disagree

The clown shoes move is exactly the one our dual management and hopefully soon to be fired clowns Rexy and Idzy have been doing here all season....alternating between the two proven failures each running around in circles and turning plays into.huge losses or hurling the ball anywhere but to an open receiver...

But NO don't give a third guy a shot....why not? Amateur draftnik Herm Bitonti has determined that he's not ready

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why do you need to find out anything about the PS QB ?

 

I say don't ruin his confidence putting him out there with this putrid offense.  maybe give him week 17, but starting him now with a healthy geno and vick is just a clown shoes move

 

we've had enough of those

 

And what if he looks legit week 17.  You go into the offseason saying "well he looked good but it was only 1 game".  Right now there is still time left to evaluate him.  We already know Vick and Geno are not the answer. I wouldn't say "give the 3rd stringer a shot" unless I actually thought he had ability.  For example, I never clamored for Greg McElroy (certainly not in a serious way if I ever did).  I think Simms is worthy of a legit look though.  He has a strong arm, can move around well, is decisive and has excellent pedigree.

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He wasn't on the roster until November when Geno got hurt.  Not benched, hurt.  They called Simms up from the practice squad because Geno couldn't dress.  They cut Owusu, who had no impact and rarely saw the field, so I don't see the problem with Simms having a roster spot, particularly with two dinged guys ahead of him. 

 

 

I think Simms is there to throw practice balls.  Rex may be wrong, but he is a coach, and coaches have standards.  IN HIS mind, Simms is not a major leaguer.  And coaches do not just fling guys out there.  They put the guys they feel were worth coaching out there.  They do not ask their starters to support a guy that they have no faith in. And he has made a judgment about Simms. Right or wrong, I think Rex feels that Simms is just a body for practice.

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I think Simms is there to throw practice balls. Rex may be wrong, but he is a coach, and coaches have standards. IN HIS mind, Simms is not a major leaguer. And coaches do not just fling guys out there. They put the guys they feel were worth coaching out there. They do not ask their starters to support a guy that they have no faith in. And he has made a judgment about Simms. Right or wrong, I think Rex feels that Simms is just a body for practice.

Rex's "mind" and his "standards" regarding QBs and offense in general have resulted in the following "major leaguers" as starting QBs for the Jets since 2009....

Mark Suckchez 2009-12

GeNO Smith 2013

Hodgepodge of apparently now alternating two failures, Vick and GeNO leading to a 2-9 record

That mind and standards are the prime reason Rex will be escorted out by security sometime in the next 6 weeks.

I think I may have failed to include the two week Greg McElroy "era" in the above which doesn't change the point that Rex has NO mind about QBs at all

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And what if he looks legit week 17.  You go into the offseason saying "well he looked good but it was only 1 game".  Right now there is still time left to evaluate him.  We already know Vick and Geno are not the answer. I wouldn't say "give the 3rd stringer a shot" unless I actually thought he had ability.  For example, I never clamored for Greg McElroy (certainly not in a serious way if I ever did).  I think Simms is worthy of a legit look though.  He has a strong arm, can move around well, is decisive and has excellent pedigree.

 

then you invite him back to camp and make sure no one ever finds out how much phil paid you ;-)

 

I like simms, but I just have to think that when the jets cut him and every team passed on signing him is proof that the people that know think he is not an NFL player. nobody thoght he was worth a back up spot, so why start him ?

 

if you look at his background, it is very meh.    he is only a few years removed from el camino college and getting benched at UT

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Rex's "mind" and his "standards" regarding QBs and offense in general have resulted in the following "major leaguers" as starting QBs for the Jets since 2009....

Mark Suckchez 2009-12

GeNO Smith 2013

Hodgepodge of apparently now alternating two failures, Vick and GeNO leading to a 2-9 record

That mind and standards are the prime reason Rex will be escorted out by security sometime in the next 6 weeks.

I think I may have failed to include the two week Greg McElroy "era" in the above which doesn't change the point that Rex has NO mind about QBs at all

 

 

Ha ha.  Well, Sanchez was a first round pick and Geno was a high second rounder.  Simms was a no round pick.  So, many, many others passed on his presumed talents.  Was Sanchez a bad pick?  I personally was disappointed when they picked him-- but he was a consensus first rounder in the league.  Most people thought Geno was a decent pick where they got him.  Rex waited way too long for Sanchez but that probably was because he was a high first round pick.  No question, Rex has to go. And maybe his optimum position is DC and not head coach. He surely  does not know QBs.   But our offensive coordinators the past 6 years have been putrid too. It is a cluster**** organization.  With strange management theories.

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Kurt Warner was a no round pick..so was Johnny U, .Tom Brady was a sixth round pick. Russell.Wilson and Joe Montana thirds, JaMarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf and Mark Buttfumble were first round picks

Sometimes even amateur draftniks like you with their dog eared Kiper guides get it all wrong.

So, frankly your point is pointless

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ok you guys convinced me.  the jets and the networks should expect us to spend real money and invest time watching a PS QB who played at el camino community college and was benched at UT start at QB for the nyj because warner

 

lol

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ok you guys convinced me. the jets and the networks should expect us to spend real money and invest time watching a PS QB who played at el camino community college and was benched at UT start at QB for the nyj because warner

lol

All we hope we convinced you is that.watching any further failure from Vick or GeNO is unwatchable

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ok you guys convinced me.  the jets and the networks should expect us to spend real money and invest time watching a PS QB who played at el camino community college and was benched at UT start at QB for the nyj because warner

 

lol

 

 

Because:

1) We know Vick/Geno are not the answer

2) There's still time to evaluate Simms

3) Simms looks like he potentially has skills (strong arm, mobile, decisive, excellent pedigree)

4) YES BECAUSE OF WARNER, CRUZ, WOODHEAD, etc.  As someone else wrote, there are many 1st round mega-busts (JaMarcus, Leaf, etc) and later round (or no round) HOFers (Brady, Warner, etc.  Heck even Montana was a 3rd rounder).

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