flgreen Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 RG III and the Jets: Not the craziest idea November, 27, 2014 NOV 27 2:00 PM ET By Rich Cimini | ESPN.com The drum beat is faint now, but it will grow progressively louder in the coming weeks and months: RG III ... RG III ... RG III. The New York Jets will be looking for a quarterback in the offseason, maybe two, and it appears that Robert Griffin III -- benched this week by the Washington Redskins -- will be available. Let's be clear: Several dominos have to fall before RG III-to-the-Jets can be considered anything more than fantasy-football chatter -- mainly, we don't know who will be calling the shots for the Jets -- but he could fit the profile for their 2015 plan. Griffin has only one year remaining on his contract (an affordable $3.3 million guaranteed), assuming the Redskins don't exercise the fifth-year option in the spring. For the Jets, it would be a Percy Harvin-like trade: not much downside in terms of financial risk. Essentially, a one-year audition. Obviously, a lot would hinge on the Redskins' asking price. They surrendered three first-round picks for Griffin in the 2012 draft, but his value has gone down, down, down amid questions about his attitude, his mechanics and his surgically repaired knee. Chances are, they would have to settle for pennies on the dollar, maybe a middle-round conditional pick that would increase if he meets certain performance levels. All bets are off for the Jets if they take Marcus Mariota or Jameis Winston or another quarterback with a high draft pick. They would have a new franchise quarterback, and there would be no point in trading for somebody else's tarnished franchise quarterback. Griffin-to-the-Jets only makes sense if they pick a quarterback in the later rounds or don't draft one at all, bringing back Geno Smith to compete for the starting job or, more likely, be a backup. Griffin has accumulated a lot of baggage since his sensational rookie season, raising questions about whether he will ever fulfill his potential. He's a system quarterback, and we have no idea what type of system the Jets will be running next season. So, yes, this is a considerable projection on our part, but it's worth investigating if you are the Jets. They will be starting over at quarterback, so what is there to lose? A look at other veterans who figure to be available in the offseason: Bradford Sam Bradford, St. Louis Rams: The former No. 1 overall pick, coming off back-to-back knee surgeries, is a likely salary-cap casualty. He has a $16.6 million cap charge in 2015, the final year of his rookie contract. The Rams can clear close to $13 million by dumping him. Bradford didn't play well when he was healthy, so there would be considerable risk. At best, he would be a one-year stop gap. Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears: He signed a seven-year extension at the end of last season (through 2020), but it's not a cap-crushing contract if the Bears decide to part ways with Cutler. There is a $15.5 million guarantee in 2015, but no guaranteed money beyond that. Cutler can sling it with anyone, but he's a turnover-prone quarterback with a prima-donna attitude -- and that wouldn't play well in New York. Hoyer Brian Hoyer, Cleveland Browns: Credit him for overcoming two phenomenons -- Johnny Football and the Browns' history of losing. Hoyer, one of the main reasons for the Browns' resurgence, will be the top free agent on the market. He probably wouldn't be a fit for the Jets. He's a complementary player -- read: game-manager -- who will command big bucks for the long term. Johnny Manziel, Cleveland Browns: Johnny Football in the Big Apple? He would blow up the Internet and social media. He would sell tickets for Woody Johnson, that's for sure, but the deficiencies in his game, coupled with what the Browns would ask in a trade, wouldn't justify the risk-reward. The Browns invested a first-round pick in Manziel, so they won't give him away for nothing. Josh McCown, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: He's under contract for 2015 (no guaranteed money), but he could be the odd-man out if the Bucs pick Mariota or Winston. The Jets were interested in McCown last offseason before signing Michael Vick. He wouldn't be a bad hold-the-fort guy. Mark Sanchez, Philadelphia Eagles: Ha, ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 my first pick would be Cutler. i know he's got a bad wrap, but out of all those options Cutler is clearly superior. he'd be a great option for 3 - 4 years if we don't get to draft Mariota and go for someone like Connor Cook if he comes out. i don't get how anyone could want someone like Locker or Bradford here. serious injury issues and they really weren't good QBs when they were healthy. RG3 would be my second pick. I'd like to see RG3 here as the starter with Mariota watching. obviously we would need a completely different coaching staff to cater to these guys' playing style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I would take a chance on Bradford if the price was reasonable. RGIII no fuggin way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 my first pick would be Cutler. i know he's got a bad wrap, but out of all those options Cutler is clearly superior. he'd be a great option for 3 - 4 years if we don't get to draft Mariota and go for someone like Connor Cook if he comes out. i don't get how anyone could want someone like Locker or Bradford here. serious injury issues and they really weren't good QBs when they were healthy. RG3 would be my second pick. I'd like to see RG3 here as the starter with Mariota watching. obviously we would need a completely different coaching staff to cater to these guys' playing style. So no on Locker or Bradford because injuries and not playing well, but yes on RGIII even though it looks like one of his legs could snap off at any minute and he's been brutal when he hasn't been able to run because of said injuries? Really? I think someone like Jake Locker would be perfect on a show me contract while grooming a high draft pick behind him. No matter who, it is essential for the Jets to get a viable (read not Michael Vick) veteran QB in here so that whomever is drafted and whomever is coaching next season doesn't feel obligated to rush to play said draftee. Neither Sanchez nor Geno Smith were ready and could have used at least one year of learning and clipboard holding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 my first pick would be Cutler. i know he's got a bad wrap, but out of all those options Cutler is clearly superior. he'd be a great option for 3 - 4 years if we don't get to draft Mariota and go for someone like Connor Cook if he comes out. i don't get how anyone could want someone like Locker or Bradford here. serious injury issues and they really weren't good QBs when they were healthy. RG3 would be my second pick. I'd like to see RG3 here as the starter with Mariota watching. obviously we would need a completely different coaching staff to cater to these guys' playing style. Cutler is probably the best of them, but the guy is such a J O. The media would murder him. RG III? No way. He needs to run alot to make his game work. His injury seems to have ruined his running ability. Right now he is a very bad QB. Sanchez? Cimini is Right Ha ha. it would be entertaining if a new GM came in, with total control and wanted Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 So no on Locker or Bradford because injuries and not playing well, but yes on RGIII even though it looks like one of his legs could snap off at any minute and he's been brutal when he hasn't been able to run because of said injuries? Really? I think someone like Jake Locker would be perfect on a show me contract while grooming a high draft pick behind him. No matter who, it is essential for the Jets to get a viable (read not Michael Vick) veteran QB in here so that whomever is drafted and whomever is coaching next season doesn't feel obligated to rush to play said draftee. Neither Sanchez nor Geno Smith were ready and could have used at least one year of learning and clipboard holding. +1 on the bolded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Mark Sanchez, Philadelphia Eagles: Ha, ha. literally made me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 If we draft a QB, I hope we sit his ass down for a yr behind another QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I have been and will keep on my own little bandwagon of signing Jake Locker and drafting Bryce Petty. Athletic, 6'3" 230lbs QBs with rocket arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Nick Foles could be available too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 1. Hire offense-minded coach 2. Let coach pick QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 my first pick would be Cutler. i know he's got a bad wrap, but out of all those options Cutler is clearly superior. he'd be a great option for 3 - 4 years if we don't get to draft Mariota and go for someone like Connor Cook if he comes out. i don't get how anyone could want someone like Locker or Bradford here. serious injury issues and they really weren't good QBs when they were healthy. RG3 would be my second pick. I'd like to see RG3 here as the starter with Mariota watching. obviously we would need a completely different coaching staff to cater to these guys' playing style. Cutler isn't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I have been and will keep on my own little bandwagon of signing Jake Locker and drafting Bryce Petty. Athletic, 6'3" 230lbs QBs with rocket arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Nick Foles could be available too. I think Foles is a product of Kelly's system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I would take a chance on Bradford if the price was reasonable. RGIII no fuggin way I agree. At this point RG3 is actually worse than Geno Smith and with his diva attitude I would be scared to pair him up with any young qb. Bradford makes sense he's a better player and will be playing for a contract and whoever the young qb is will get to play anyway once Bradford gets injured. Hoyer is a Neil O'Donnell clone and will want a multi-year deal. Pass but as much as I'm not a big Hoyer guy I would easily prefer him over scrubs like Jake Locker and Mark Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Why is my bandwagon retarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreenDover Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I have been and will keep on my own little bandwagon of signing Jake Locker and drafting Bryce Petty. Athletic, 6'3" 230lbs QBs with rocket arms. I absolutely love this except I would prefer Sam Bradford or Jay Cutler over Jake Locker but this the Route we should really go with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Locker is athletic and has no weapons in Tenn... worth a shot until you can draft one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Why is my bandwagon retarded? Because Jake Locker sucks and would actually be a downgrade over what we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Locker is athletic and has no weapons in Tenn... worth a shot until you can draft one Someone hasn't heard of Delanie Walker. He's having a better year than anyone on our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Screw you Cimini, I was on this first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Someone hasn't heard of Delanie Walker. He's having a better year than anyone on our roster. I yr plugin until you can draft one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I yr plugin until you can draft one I suppose but Locker isn't better than what we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreenDover Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I suppose but Locker isn't better than what we have now. ikr lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 If we get RG3 I will actually not watch any games until he's gone. Least favorite quarterback in the league. Absolute garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I pick up a vet and still draft a QB I really doubt hoyer will be available. With that said, Locker, Bradford, Cutler. All in favor of. Even Sanchez given he continues playing like he's been. I'd love to see him do well for us without Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Because Jake Locker sucks and would actually be a downgrade over what we have now. I am looking for the same type of QB that Petty is. Build the offense around them so once Petty is ready the offense doesnt change. I want the same skill type QBs on roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 trading for RG III would be enormously stupid. they will eventually waive him hoyer will sign a big extension with the browns manziel would be a disaster so draft the best one I say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 trading for RG III would be enormously stupid. they will eventually waive him hoyer will sign a big extension with the browns manziel would be a disaster so draft the best one I say Haven't the Browns been winning of late in spite of Hoyer's shaky play? The thing about RGIII is you'd have to extend him for another year or two. He's still very young and if we traded for him as a one year audition and he has a good season, there's nothing to say he doesn't test the FA waters. That's why the Harvin trade was such a head scratcher to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 how sad is it that we are having this conversation for the 17th season in a row. jets are ******* awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 1. Hire offense-minded coach 2. Let coach pick QB You think any of the college guys are worth a look like Malzahn, Briles, Sumlin, Shaw, ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Haven't the Browns been winning of late in spite of Hoyer's shaky play? The thing about RGIII is you'd have to extend him for another year or two. He's still very young and if we traded for him as a one year audition and he has a good season, there's nothing to say he doesn't test the FA waters. That's why the Harvin trade was such a head scratcher to me. possibly, I haven't been following them too closely. my comment was more a nod to him being a local kid making good good point, RG III is basically radioactive, I wouldn't touch him with a 24 mile long pole harvin was a desperation move. he's a goner too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Matt Leinart might be an excellent choice. I read a bunch of suggestions and expert opinions somewhere on the internet almost begging and praying for the Jets to have drafted him in the first place so, obviously he must be a really good QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 This is sad. At this point I'd take a flyer on comeback player Pennington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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