slats Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Mangini has more of a GM make up than a HC make up This is pure speculation, and based on a few good first round picks and little else. If he really had an aptitude for front office work, wouldn't someone hire him in that regard? This guy gets the freest of free passes, IMO. He flat out sucked, and his personnel record was merely okay. Not that we know how the front office even worked between him and Tanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 He's 33-47 as a head coach. Mangini is doing wonders with Vernon Davis this season. And the 49ers meltdown continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I hope you all remember this thread when Mangini is hoisting that Lombardi high above his head lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I hope you all remember this thread when Kotite is hoisting that Lombardi high above his head. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 He's 33-47 as a head coach. he had a winning season with Favre though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 post the whole article, don't be a douche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 This is pure speculation, and based on a few good first round picks and little else. If he really had an aptitude for front office work, wouldn't someone hire him in that regard? This guy gets the freest of free passes, IMO. He flat out sucked, and his personnel record was merely okay. Not that we know how the front office even worked between him and Tanny. Tanny was a capologist and that was well known, not to hard to figure out Mangini had more pull when it came to how to build the team. Manginis biggest issue was his attitude toward the players and that was well documented as well. I think Mangini is a smart guy with a little attitude adjustment could do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 He's 33-47 as a head coach. Yes you could do worse for example Wrex over the past 4 years (after he destroyed the roster and purged any hint of an offense): 16-37! ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Yes you could do worse for example Wrex over the past 4 years (after he destroyed the roster and purged any hint of an offense): 16-37! ouch. #yeahbutthatsdifferent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Yes you could do worse for example Wrex over the past 4 years (after he destroyed the roster and purged any hint of an offense): 16-37! ouch. or it's 24-37. But we can't all be little Idziks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 or it's 24-37. But we can't all be little Idziks. Lol you are correct but man touchy about Wrex aren't you =p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Lol you are correct but man touchy about Wrex aren't you =p There are enough fair criticisms of the man on the way out, no need to exaggerate. & lol at BadPoster negative rep'ing my correction of the man's record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 This is pure speculation, and based on a few good first round picks and little else. If he really had an aptitude for front office work, wouldn't someone hire him in that regard? This guy gets the freest of free passes, IMO. He flat out sucked, and his personnel record was merely okay. Not that we know how the front office even worked between him and Tanny. The Boar Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 The Boar Hunter POTD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Mangini has more of a GM make up than a HC make up I was going along with the premise of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Pete Kendall fiasco Kendall was an azzhole and was a very big part of the 'fiasco' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Mangini has been their TE coach this year. Vernon Davis stat-line: 25 catches, 236 yards, 2 TDs Vance MacDonald: 2 rec, 30 yards Why wouldn't they extend his magnificence to the entire roster?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 When I go to the money machine tonight, I ain't looking over my back for the media.Yea, exactly. I mean it's not like he's a music artist where the media follows him to take a piss. They only time they can roast him is press conferences and there's a simple way to avoid that. WIN OFTEN. Which he didn't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Mangini has been their TE coach this year. Vernon Davis stat-line: 25 catches, 236 yards, 2 TDs Vance MacDonald: 2 rec, 30 yards Why wouldn't they extend his magnificence to the entire roster?! Yeah, Vernon Davis immediately forgot how to play TE once Mangini started coaching him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 The Mangina Returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Kendall was an azzhole and was a very big part of the 'fiasco' Maybe he is and maybe he isn't. But regardless, it doesn't take anything away from the way Mangini handled the situation. I mean, the coach is supposed to be the bigger man, and the "adult" in the room isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I'd rather the coach be an absolute dick and have a disciplined well run team than to be club Rex who is every players buddy and is totally oblivious to the bad seeds on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I'd rather the coach be an absolute dick and have a disciplined well run team than to be club Rex who is every players buddy and is totally oblivious to the bad seeds on the team. What about if the coach, like Mangini is an absolute dick and the team is undisciplined and poorly.run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 What about if the coach, like Mangini is an absolute dick and the team is undisciplined and poorly.run? Except they weren't at all under mangini. They paid the price for taking penalties day one in camp to the end of the year and they were a very disciplined team. You can argue about how effective Mangini was and how you like or didn't like him but his teams were 100 times more discipliend than club rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I'd rather the coach be an absolute dick and have a disciplined well run team than to be club Rex who is every players buddy and is totally oblivious to the bad seeds on the team. Except they weren't at all under mangini. They paid the price for taking penalties day one in camp to the end of the year and they were a very disciplined team. You can argue about how effective Mangini was and how you like or didn't like him but his teams were 100 times more discipliend than club rex. They were also in only one playoff game and were ******* humiliated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yeah, Vernon Davis immediately forgot how to play TE once Mangini started coaching him. Apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I'd rather the coach be an absolute dick and have a disciplined well run team than to be club Rex who is every players buddy and is totally oblivious to the bad seeds on the team. Mangini doesn't know what he's doing. That's why his record both here and in Cleveland are horrible and SF's ownership is retarded if they give him the job. He's an insanely conservative defensive playcaller Rex had basically the same roster on defense and they became top 5 overnight. His handling of Cleveland's QB situation was laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Mangini doesn't know what he's doing. That's why his record both here and in Cleveland are horrible and SF's ownership is retarded if they give him the job. He's an insanely conservative defensive playcaller Rex had basically the same roster on defense and they became top 5 overnight. His handling of Cleveland's QB situation was laughable. I don't disagree with anything you have said, my other point stands, the team actually had discipline under him, under rex none at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 They were also in only one playoff game and were ******* humiliated. All of which has nothing to do with what my original counter point was. Discipline. Manginis teams had it to go along with his foibles, Rex's teams have none of it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 All of which has nothing to do with what my original counter point was. Discipline. Manginis teams had it to go along with his foibles, Rex's teams have none of it at all. Discipline + sucking does not interest me. I guess they didn't suck. Discipline + mediocre also not that interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Discipline + sucking does not interest me. I guess they didn't suck. Discipline + mediocre also not that interesting. It's one step better than undisciplined and sucking which is Rex Ryan football, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Except they weren't at all under mangini. They paid the price for taking penalties day one in camp to the end of the year and they were a very disciplined team. You can argue about how effective Mangini was and how you like or didn't like him but his teams were 100 times more discipliend than club rex. This stuff gets overemphasized in a bad year like the one we're currently having. IIRC, the Seahawks were the most penalized team in the league last year. They also won a Super Bowl. Mangini had the team walking on eggshells. People complain about Rex's ground & pound, but forget that before Favre got here and told Schotty to shove his offense that the Jets were easily the most boring team in football on both sides of the ball. Mangini focused on not making mistakes and nothing else. There was no aggressiveness. I hate the dumb penalties like 12 men or false starts, but a lot of that is bringing in guys like Colon and Breno, who have been penalty producers for their entire careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Probably total speculation that he gets the job permanently, but man that would just be the cherry on top of some sadistic script for the last decade of Jet football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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