ebonix Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 www.espn.go.com @Cimini ....but the odds of Idzik surviving this season aren't good. Woody Johnson has been tight-lipped in regard to his plans, but the vibe around the organization is that he's looking to replace his general manager. It's possible that he will re-assign Idzik to another role, but I'd be surprised if he remains the top dog in the football operation. There was a report last week that said Idzik is vetting potential head coach candidates, which suggests he'll be sticking around, but I don't think that's an accurate representation of the situation. He might have had a couple of casual conversations on the side, but nothing in an official capacity. We'll know the answer in nine days. ....He could be either Capologist/ Accountant... or towel attendant. Woody better get a real football guy in here. I don't want another screwed -up draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Ugh, Woody loves this stuff. An ex Jets GM is already in the reeds (Bradway), now he'll have 2? LOL, only the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOJFan Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 #SOJ #rebuildingsince1969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Wouldn't shock me if this is what ends up happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Typical. Idiot Johnson clearly doesn;t like confrontation and never really fires anyone. DEMOTION? W T F? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Typical. Idiot Johnson clearly doesn;t like confrontation and never really fires anyone. DEMOTION? W T F? Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I agree, and mentioned it in another post. This is the way for Woody to save face, and to get some use out of Idzik. I have to assume Idzik is a good cap guy, Let him do what he does, and get a football guy in here as his boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonix Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 I agree, and mentioned it in another post. This is the way for Woody to save face, and to get some use out of Idzik. I have to assume Idzik is a good cap guy, Let him do what he does, and get a football guy in here as his boss I can really see it happening this way. In a sense, Idzik has saved Woody money; not given out huge contract like Tanny did with Santonio and Sanchise. With the big cap number-- and real football guy as GM.... ( Tom Gamble of the EAGLES ? ) then clean the scouting dept out including Bradway. We could be ok in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 #SOJ #rebuildingsince1969 Bigdannj...aka SOJFan...Big Blew Vagiants fan since birth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 As long as we bring in a guy like Gamble it would actually make sense for Woody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I can really see it happening this way. In a sense, Idzik has saved Woody money; not given out huge contract like Tanny did with Santonio and Sanchise. With the big cap number-- and real football guy as GM.... ( Tom Gamble of the EAGLES ? ) then clean the scouting dept out including Bradway. We could be ok in 2015. I agree The bug in the ointment is QB, We could very well have Smith starting again next year. It seems to me the best QB's available are Moore (fair I guess) and Sanchez LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 As long as we bring in a guy like Gamble it would actually make sense for Woody. I'm not saying Gamble couldn't be a good hire, but he was Philly's VP of player development this year - take a look at their draft - Outside of Matthews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Cimini. About as plugged-in as...an unplugged cord. "It's believed" "But the odds" "It's likely" "Reportedly" "I'd be surprised" "He might" "But the vibe" "It's possible" "I don't think" Gee. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Watch Woody make Bradway the GM and Idzic the Cap guy lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Typical. Idiot Johnson clearly doesn;t like confrontation and never really fires anyone. DEMOTION? W T F? Just when you think you're aware of every Jets worst-case scenario, Woody Johnson finds one that's even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Cimini does not know what is going to happen-pure speculation. woody can not really be thinking of this. You need to start fresh completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Remember we do have a GM in house that recently got a team to the Super Bowl, Rod Graves. Would it shock me if Woody flips the roles of Idzik & Graves, no. I could see Graves becoming the President/GM and Idzik becoming the VP/Football Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Iddy should go back to "Big Blue" and surf the internet for 8 hrs a day. Not a bad gig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Ugh, Woody loves this stuff. An ex Jets GM is already in the reeds (Bradway), now he'll have 2? LOL, only the Jets. Eventually, our front office will be comprised solely of failed Jets GMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Idzik did an excellent job of getting the Jets out of really bad cap trouble. This wouldn't be a bad move as long as a good judge of talent is brought in as general manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryK Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 First Mehta, and now Cimini. God's lips to our ears. If those two told you to go long on Nasa stock, would you buy it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Idzik did an excellent job of getting the Jets out of really bad cap trouble. This wouldn't be a bad move as long as a good judge of talent is brought in as general manager. Ya getting rid of revis really worked out well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Remember we do have a GM in house that recently got a team to the Super Bowl, Rod Graves. Would it shock me if Woody flips the roles of Idzik & Graves, no. I could see Graves becoming the President/GM and Idzik becoming the VP/Football Admin He did get the Cards to the Super Bowl, and that is certainly no easy task. He also only had 2 winning seasons in 10 years there. He is also probably the master mind of the the 2014 Jets draft. The Flip could happen, but I really would rather they just clean house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Ya getting rid of revis really worked out well Getting rid of Revis for a 1st round draft pick when he was demanding insane amount of money coming off of a career threatening injury: brilliant job Idzik. Finding a replacement for him: awful job. A "football guy" (hate that term) will do a better job at replacing players while Idzik keeps us in great cap shape. Not a bad deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Getting rid of Revis for a 1st round draft pick when he was demanding insane amount of money coming off of a career threatening injury: brilliant job Idzik. Finding a replacement for him: awful job. A "football guy" (hate that term) will do a better job at replacing players while Idzik keeps us in great cap shape. Not a bad deal. Ummm you can hire any MIT or Harvard grad to do the cap. Iddy needs to be whacked.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Ummm you can hire any MIT or Harvard grad to do the cap. Iddy needs to be whacked.. If that was the case every team would have a guy from MIT or Harvard on staff and never get in cap trouble. I do think Idzik should be fired (as GM).. but if the Jets kept him around to keep the cap in check it wouldn't be a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Cimini is still a hack. He's speculating based on the fact that Woody has done this before, and that Idzik did a good job with the cap (if nothing else) and also has a couple/few unpaid years left on his contract. Back when Bradway did it, though, he volunteered. Unless there's language in Idzik's deal that he can moved to any other position at the owner's discretion, I don't know why he'd take a demotion. He'd take the money and get a cap job somewhere else. Better for both the ego and the pocketbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Not sure why everyone hates this. This seems like the fair and right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Not sure why everyone hates this. This seems like the fair and right thing to do. Depends who the guy is that they bring in to be his boss. Is it Parcells or Polian? Or is it another 40 year-old unproven guy? If it's the former, where Woody hires a grand overseer, that's cool. But if it's just another dude, I'm not sure that's fair to either guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Idzik is going nowhere. Get used to the 4-12 seasons because there's more coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Ugh, Woody loves this stuff. An ex Jets GM is already in the reeds (Bradway), now he'll have 2? LOL, only the Jets. Maybe Boobway n Idziot swap titles? That way, we can scout the absolute sh*t n pay them a kings ransom. Perfect scenario for the #1 draft picks the next 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Cimini is still a hack. He's speculating based on the fact that Woody has done this before, and that Idzik did a good job with the cap (if nothing else) and also has a couple/few unpaid years left on his contract. Back when Bradway did it, though, he volunteered. Unless there's language in Idzik's deal that he can moved to any other position at the owner's discretion, I don't know why he'd take a demotion. He'd take the money and get a cap job somewhere else. Better for both the ego and the pocketbook. The Jets press corps really is amazing. The season is a disaster, big changes of one kind or another are coming, the team has more leaks than a wicker canoe...and the best investigative reporting we've got is some noncommital crapola about "the vibe around the organization." I can't remember who said this, but it's brilliant: 31 teams are covered by sportswriters; the Jets are covered by gossip columnists who happen to write about sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I'm not saying Gamble couldn't be a good hire, but he was Philly's VP of player development this year - take a look at their draft - Outside of Matthews Well, it is kind of tuff to evaluate him based on last year. He is not the GM, Roseman still is and Roseman is a personnel guy and not a bean counter. Who knows who wanted who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 This would only make sense if they get Harbaugh or Gruden, and give them full control over personnel decisions. Idzik would stay on to manage the cap for them. Any other way, it's just Woody doing what he always does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 The Jets press corps really is amazing. The season is a disaster, big changes of one kind or another are coming, the team has more leaks than a wicker canoe...and the best investigative reporting we've got is some noncommital crapola about "the vibe around the organization." I can't remember who said this, but it's brilliant: 31 teams are covered by sportswriters; the Jets are covered by gossip columnists who happen to write about sports. Olbermann? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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