BallinPB Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I want to pay homage to D'Brickashaw Ferguson. I seen a Facebook post just now where guys were ripping his pro bowl alternate status saying he's overrated. While the guy may not be the perennial pro bowler we were expecting with the 4th pick in that draft, he has been a solid staple of this offensive line. He never misses a game and you don't hear his name called out like the other guys. It's nice to know that this guy will always be there and playing solid. I just want to give this guy his just due because he deserves it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I seen a Facebook post just now where guys were ripping his pro bowl alternate status saying he's overrated. THOSE SONS OF BITCHES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Facebook sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 the great tragedy of the Jets 2014 QB situation is that dude gets so much time. Compared to pretty much every other team. Look at the Pats line without Mankins... no great shakes. Does anyone think Nate Solder is better than Brick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I didn't realize left pilon was a pro bowl position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 D'Brick is done. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Just so soft. I always pictured him getting better as his career went on, and he filled out. Like a Lomas Brown or Jackie Slater. But it just never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 the great tragedy of the Jets 2014 QB situation is that dude gets so much time. Compared to pretty much every other team. Look at the Pats line without Mankins... no great shakes. Does anyone think Nate Solder is better than Brick? A healthy Vollmer is pretty good, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Aside on a great player at the same position: I wish writers could just write about how great Joe Thomas is rather than how nobody notices. Everybody who wants to notice has noticed since he was a rookie, and he's been called underrated just as long. He's rated just fine, pretty consistently considered the best OLman in the league since he was drafted. He's made the Pro Bowl every year in his career, has been a 1st team All Pro team more often than not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Brick is a beast in pass protection. A rock solide 10-15 year blindside protector. He's no Jon Ogden or Walter Jones but who is. He only makes like half of what the best LT's in the game make and there really isn't much of a dropoff. So I like that under the radar thing. Same with RIchardson and Wilkerson. Plus the guy is reliable as hell and he has a bunch of great years left in him. Great pick that worked out for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Just so soft. I always pictured him getting better as his career went on, and he filled out. Like a Lomas Brown or Jackie Slater. But it just never happened. Co-sign. He's devolved into an average LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Brick is a beast in pass protection. A rock solide 10-15 year blindside protector. He's no Jon Ogden or Walter Jones but who is. He only makes like half of what the best LT's in the game make and there really isn't much of a dropoff. So I like that under the radar thing. Same with RIchardson and Wilkerson. Plus the guy is reliable as hell and he has a bunch of great years left in him. Great pick that worked out for us. Beast? He's a friggin' turnstile half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 A great pick in a great draft for the Jets. Is he a true pro bowler any more? No, but he has had to put up with sub standar guard play beside him at times in his career. DBrick is what you realistically hope you get when you take a LT early in the draft. A good to near pro bowl player you can plug in and not worry about for 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Beast? He's a friggin' turnstile half the time. You sound clueless. Even the coaches and players disagree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Like him, seems to be a good guy. Solid but slipping. 2nd round talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I was hoping this thread was about the Ben Folds song about abortion. Brick is paid a lot of money to be solid. Seems like something could be done there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Brick has had a pretty terrible year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 You sound clueless. Even the coaches and players disagree with you. The coaches and the players? What are you, 15? Try the eyeball test. Brick hasn't been anything special for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I was hoping this thread was about the Ben Folds song about abortion. Brick is paid a lot of money to be solid. Seems like something could be done there. http://overthecap.com/position/left-tackle/2014/ He's got a big cap hit for the Jets, which he's earned, but he's basically paid like a mid-tier LT at this point. Replacement should be drafted this year or next, maybe start off at RT like Smith did in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 http://overthecap.com/position/left-tackle/2014/ He's got a big cap hit for the Jets, which he's earned, but he's basically paid like a mid-tier LT at this point. Replacement should be drafted this year or next, maybe start off at RT like Smith did in Dallas. Co-sign. It's a priority position that needs to be addressed now. It's not going to get any prettier in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Co-sign. It's a priority position that needs to be addressed now. It's not going to get any prettier in the near future. How interested are you in signing Bulaga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 How interested are you in signing Bulaga? I hadn't thought about it since I did not know he was an upcoming FA. I know he had some knee and concussion issues -- is he back to being a healthy mauler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Just so soft. I always pictured him getting better as his career went on, and he filled out. Like a Lomas Brown or Jackie Slater. But it just never happened. He peaked early. He was an elite pass protector from 2008-2010. He's been on the decline since then. Mangold looked like he was on the decline, too, but he had a bounce back year this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I want to pay homage to D'Brickashaw Ferguson. I seen a Facebook post just now where guys were ripping his pro bowl alternate status saying he's overrated. While the guy may not be the perennial pro bowler we were expecting with the 4th pick in that draft, he has been a solid staple of this offensive line. He never misses a game and you don't hear his name called out like the other guys. It's nice to know that this guy will always be there and playing solid. I just want to give this guy his just due because he deserves it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Most Jet fans respect D'Bricks career, however that isn't the point here. Brick has been what we call "the middle of the pack" at LT for at least 2 years. Straight mediocre my friend. I like D'Brick, and back when I used to provide security detail I got the opportunity to meet him face to face. He's a massive dude, and gives the indication that he's a genuine guy. There's much to like about Brick. That doesnt change anything when talking football however. Now was Brick worth the 4th pick of the draft?...absolutely. I wouldnt look back at that pick and say that we busted on that, not at all. But if we're talking about the last couple years, then I would say that its time for us to look for his replacement in this draft, so much so that if we went OT in the first round I would consider it a wise investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Not as good as Haloti Ngata. Therefore, Tannenbaum sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I hadn't thought about it since I did not know he was an upcoming FA. I know he had some knee and concussion issues -- is he back to being a healthy mauler? Started 14 games this year after missing the first two to an MCL sprain on the same knee that blew out last year. Excellent player when on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I would definitely say it has been a pleasure to have him but the end is near. He is getting beat more and more frequently. We prob have a good year or two left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 The coaches and the players? What are you, 15? Try the eyeball test. Brick hasn't been anything special for a while now. Do you even have any eyeballs? Who are you, Bill Walsh in the making? Eyeball test. Unless you worked for an NFL team for at least 10 years scouting players please stop using the phrase "eyeball test". Makes you sound even dumber. I value the players and coaches opinion a little higher than I value your opinion (which I don't considering you're either blind or clueless) since their opinion matches mine in this matter as well. And there's a big gap between "he hasn't been special lately" and "he's a turnstile half the time". But...whatever. Go scout some more players, champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Brick has been more than solid for a decade now. Great pick in the draft and has earned every dime. He may have lost a step. Yet with mediocre at best G play and inept QB play how can anyone expect better? I can imagine that he has had to peer into his right side very often with Winters doing his turnstile best. Geno not calling the proper protections identifying where the pressure is coming from does make a difference. Brick has NEVER missed a game and I am sure he has been injured or hurt at times. The FO has yet to provide him with a SB caliber QB yet he still played hard and strong weekly. Brick plays like a champion and the Jets continue to waste away his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 What Brick was is now irrelevant. He has been mediocre at best the last 2 seasons. Now is an opportune time to draft his successor. I appreciate that Brick was once a very good LT in pass protection only, so much so that I could accept his ineptness in run blocking. But now his pass protection skills are beginning to wane and he is no better than decent. There have been too many plays in the last 2 years where Brick completely whiffed, so the turnstile comments in a post above are NOT inaccurate. Brick will remain decent but not great for another year or two. Certainly not a strong point on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Do you even have any eyeballs? Who are you, Bill Walsh in the making? Eyeball test. Unless you worked for an NFL team for at least 10 years scouting players please stop using the phrase "eyeball test". Makes you sound even dumber. I value the players and coaches opinion a little higher than I value your opinion (which I don't considering you're either blind or clueless) since their opinion matches mine in this matter as well. And there's a big gap between "he hasn't been special lately" and "he's a turnstile half the time". But...whatever. Go scout some more players, champ. If you really believe he is a "beast", we need to get the eye chart out. How many fingers am I holding up? (The correct answer is one.) WTF is this "I value the players and coaches opinion" you keep babbling about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I would definitely say it has been a pleasure to have him but the end is near. He is getting beat more and more frequently. We prob have a good year or two left. He should only be here for as long as he's the best one on the roster. As soon as someone else is better, including someone acquired this upcoming FA period or draft, he should be gone. He's not playing like a $12M left tackle. Perhaps not even at half that amount. It's not that he's always terrible so much as that he's very inconsistent and that can make it tough to design or run a play (such as it would be anyway with the QB play we've gotten for almost the entirety of his tenure here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 If you really believe he is a "beast", we need to get the eye chart out. How many fingers am I holding up? (The correct answer is one.) WTF is this "I value the players and coaches opinion" you keep babbling about? Another thing obviously you have no clue about. Shocking, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 What Brick was is now irrelevant. He has been mediocre at best the last 2 seasons. Now is an opportune time to draft his successor. I appreciate that Brick was once a very good LT in pass protection only, so much so that I could accept his ineptness in run blocking. But now his pass protection skills are beginning to wane and he is no better than decent. There have been too many plays in the last 2 years where Brick completely whiffed, so the turnstile comments in a post above are NOT inaccurate. Brick will remain decent but not great for another year or two. Certainly not a strong point on offense. Just how good has the run game been over that period for the Jets? The Jets have many other problems that need scrutiny other than Brick. Is he aging? Yes. Still very capable till we get better production from another player there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Just how good has the run game been over that period for the Jets? The Jets have many other problems that need scrutiny other than Brick. Is he aging? Yes. Still very capable till we get better production from another player there. Can't ignore the lack of depth along the OL. Recipe for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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