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Posted Jun 20, 2013

 

Renton, Wash. – The Seattle Seahawks have promoted Tag Ribary to director of team operations, Trent Kirchner to director of pro personnel, Dan Morgan to assistant director of pro personnel, Josh Graff to national scout and hired Jim Nagy as the southeast area scout, replacing Derrick Jensen, who was a part of the Seahawks scouting department for 22 years.

 

Kirchner fills Ribary’s role with Seattle after serving the last three years as its assistant director of pro personnel. A former Seahawks communications intern in 2000, he was the college scouting coordinator for the Washington Redskins in 2001 and served eight seasons (2002-09) as a pro scout for the Carolina Panthers.

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Posted by Josh Alper on January 16, 2014, 3:43 PM EST

The Dolphins’ list of general manager candidates is down one name.

When Vikings assistant G.M. George Paton’s name first landed on the Dolphins’ radar screen, it was believed he would speak to Miami about the position but things haven’t worked out that way. A league source tells PFT that Paton has declined an opportunity to interview for the job.

Paton worked in Miami earlier in the career, but it seems he likes his situation in Minnesota better than the prospect of replacing Jeff Ireland in Miami. Paton was in the running for the Rams G.M. job in 2012 and his name has come up in connection with other openings, although it appears it will be at least another year before he gets a move up the ladder.

George Paton enters his 7th season with the Vikings in 2013, serving as the club’s Assistant General Manager and working with General Manager Rick Spielman.

The duo have a long professional history together, having worked on the personnel staffs in Chicago and Miami before joining forces again in Minnesota.

 

The 2012 Vikings benefitted from an influx of young talent and spurred the squad to a Vikings-record 7-win improvement over the previous season, finishing 10-6 and earning a Wild Card playoff berth. The Vikings landed 3 draft picks on the All- Rookie team and a pair of rookies garnered Pro Bowl honors. Vikings FB Jerome Felton joined the team as a free agent in 2012 and went on to a career year, paving the way for Adrian Peterson to post the 2nd-best rushing mark in NFL history with 2,097 yards and earned his 1st career All-Pro and Pro Bowl recognition.

 

The Vikings roster development through free agency, trades and the draft built the foundation for the back-to-back NFC North Champions in 2008 and 2009. The Vikings tied a team record with 10 players earning Pro Bowl berths in 2009, 5 were acquired by the draft, 4 by free agency and 1 via trade. The 2009 team tied the 2nd-most wins in franchise history with a 12-4 mark in the regular season and advanced to the NFC Championship game for the first time since 2000. The Vikings 22 wins over the 2008 and 2009 seasons leads the NFC over that span and ranks 2nd in the NFL.

 

Paton’s primary focus is coordinate scouting and personnel functions within the Vikings Pro Scouting Department and lend his expertise to the College Scouting Department as they prepare for the annual NFL Draft.

 

Paton spent 6 seasons (2001-06) with the Miami Dolphins as Director of Pro Personnel. Paton began his NFL career in the college and pro scouting departments of the Chicago Bears, rising to the position of Assistant Director of Pro Personnel in 2000.

 

A 4-year letter winner as a DB at UCLA from 1988-91, Paton was a part of a pair of Bruin bowl teams. He earned a bachelor’s degree in history and went on to play in professional football leagues in Italy and Austria.

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Ryan Pace enters his first season as the Saints Director of Player Personnel in 2013. He will work closely with Executive Vice President/General Manager Mickey Loomis to oversee the club’s college and pro scouting operation and all aspects of scouting and evaluation of college prospects and professional players, including the Saints roster.

 

Entering his 12th year as a member of the Saints player personnel department, Pace spent the last six seasons as the club’s Director of Pro Scouting.

 

In addition to overseeing the club’s staff of pro scouts, Pace’s responsibilities included recommending player acquisitions by evaluating current Saints players and scouting current and future free agents from the NFL and other professional leagues, monitoring the waiver wire, researching possible trade opportunities and supervising the advance scouting of upcoming opponents. In addition, as the organization prepared for the NFL Draft following the season, Pace assisted in the evaluation of some of the top college prospects.

 

Prior to becoming Director of Pro Scouting, Pace served as a Pro Scout from 2004-06, with his efforts including evaluating veteran free agents, scouting upcoming opponents and evaluating college players in preparation for the NFL Draft. He had served as a Scouting Assistant for two years starting in 2002. His well-rounded experiences included evaluating players from around the league as well as prospects from NFL Europe, the Arena Football League and the Canadian Football League. Pace also tracked player movement, scouted college players and assisted in the preparation of the draft room.

 

In 2008, he was selected by the club to attend the Stanford Business School’s Executive Education NFL-Stanford Program for Managers, an educational program and honor known across the league as an important training ground for promising executives.

 

Pace first joined the Saints in 2001, assisting in the coordination of all operations on game days, training camp and with the Louisiana Superdome.

Originally from Flower Mound, Texas, Pace was a four-year letterman at defensive end at Eastern Illinois (1995-99) – serving as team captain as a senior – and graduated with a bachelor’s degree in marketing.

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Does George Paton from the Vikes excite people?

It's hard to tell without a blurb. The blurb's the thing, really. You wanna excite people around here, you gotta get yourself a blurb. Good, bad, 'thug,' 'distraction,' whatever. There just has to be something out there so we know the coast is clear because somebody said it already. At that point you just pull that throwaway quote up there on the browser, squint real good, and form your own studiously considered opinion about the cut of that blurb's jib. Then you take that sh*t and make it your own and **** what everybody else thinks. If you're feeling spicy you can throw a hundo on it. With nothing but a name and a resume and some measurable results it's next to impossible to tell what's gonna float somebody's boat. Easier once we hire a guy and everybody's excited, or when said guy can't manifest a quarterback in time to curtail the sophomore slump and nobody's excited.

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Kirchner's road to where he is now is pretty interesting. His last semester at St. John's he just up and drove himself from Queens to the combine in Indy despite no way to get inside. They had a separate restroom area or something and Kirchner creepily hung out there waiting to talk to someone. He struck up a conversation with Mark Trestman (then Arizona's OC) when he went to go take a piss I guess. Used Arizona's QBC's credentials since he wasn't in town yet and got in that way. In there he met John Schneider, got an internship with Seattle, then a paperwork job in Washington (college) scouting dept for a year, then 8 years as a pro scout for Carolina (2002-2010). When Schneider went went back to Seattle he hired Kirchner to be assistant to Ribary (his pro personnel director).

 

Obviously the moral of the story is if you want to talk to Mark Trestman, hang out by the urinals and he won't ignore you.

 

Anyway I do like that he has multiple years' experience with 2 different pro teams, and that 8+ years he was a pro scout.  What I don't like is that the guys he most recently worked with, in Seattle, have exhibited very poor judgment in trading draft picks for veterans and signing veteran FAs, that have been mostly flop moves (with one obvious exception in Lynch, who turned out better than they'd ever imagined). 

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uh-oh, Schefter reporting that Woody may let new GM decide what to do with Rex.    That puts new GM in a tough spot right away.  Fire popular coach that many in fan basse, including owner like, or keep him yet again?   clean house Woody, and do it right this time.

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It's hard to tell without a blurb. The blurb's the thing, really. You wanna excite people around here, you gotta get yourself a blurb. Good, bad, 'thug,' 'distraction,' whatever. There just has to be something out there so we know the coast is clear because somebody said it already. At that point you just pull that throwaway quote up there on the browser, squint real good, and form your own studiously considered opinion about the cut of that blurb's jib. Then you take that sh*t and make it your own and **** what everybody else thinks. If you're feeling spicy you can throw a hundo on it. With nothing but a name and a resume and some measurable results it's next to impossible to tell what's gonna float somebody's boat. Easier once we hire a guy and everybody's excited, or when said guy can't manifest a quarterback in time to curtail the sophomore slump and nobody's excited.

I just want to know which one is a personnel guy. That's who we should hire.

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uh-oh, Schefter reporting that Woody may let new GM decide what to do with Rex.    That puts new GM in a tough spot right away.  Fire popular coach that many in fan basse, including owner like, or keep him yet again?   clean house Woody, and do it right this time.

 

Ugh. Way to make the job attractive.

 

"Your first order of business as Jets GM will be to get off on the wrong foot with half or most of the locker room, as well as most of the team's beat reporters, and an unknown (but not insignificant) percentage of the fan base."

 

Johnson may very well have an IQ under 80.

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Ugh. Way to make the job attractive.

"Your first order of business as Jets GM will be to get off on the wrong foot with half or most of the locker room, as well as most of the team's beat reporters, and an unknown (but not insignificant) percentage of the fan base."

Johnson may very well have an IQ under 80.

What's the definition of insanity again?

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Ugh. Way to make the job attractive.

 

"Your first order of business as Jets GM will be to get off on the wrong foot with half or most of the locker room, as well as most of the team's beat reporters, and an unknown (but not insignificant) percentage of the fan base."

 

Johnson may very well have an IQ under 80.

 

this is why I think bringing in Casserly makes sense and I don't think Woody is as dumb as people make him out to be. 

 

GM vs. Coach is like chicken / egg.  Who do you hire first?   If you want a big name HC he'll want control of the roster and vice versa with the GM. 

 

Hiring Casserly allows him to gauge the different interest levels of the various HC / GM combo's and help the team figure out which one to hire first.   A guy like Harbaugh would want to pick his own GM while I'm sure some of the top GM candidates would only consider the job if they get to pick the HC and roster.  

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this is why I think bringing in Casserly makes sense and I don't think Woody is as dumb as people make him out to be. 

 

GM vs. Coach is like chicken / egg.  Who do you hire first?   If you want a big name HC he'll want control of the roster and vice versa with the GM. 

 

Hiring Casserly allows him to gauge the different interest levels of the various HC / GM combo's and help the team figure out which one to hire first.   A guy like Harbaugh would want to pick his own GM while I'm sure some of the top GM candidates would only consider the job if they get to pick the HC and roster.

I'll grant him this much, that between Korn-Ferry and Casserly+Wolf he's making an effort to bring in professionals. Unfortunately, the only input he puts in himself may very well be the only decisions that make the input from these consultants worthless in the end.

Fire Ryan immediately to get the best GM to interview and sign here. Hire that GM right away. If that GM reeeeeeealy wanted Ryan I'm sure he'd re-sign the available Ryan immediately. But that's unlikely to be the case anyway. Most likely a new GM already has a coach in mind that he knows and that he's worked with before (and probably recently at that).

You don't bring in candidates and tell them that they have to fire Ryan before interviewing anyone else. You just don't.

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McClay was a candidate the last time we were looking for a GM and he basically said he's not interested. So there's that. A lot of sh*tty names left this year, again.

@BrianCoz: Saw @RapSheet mention George Paton as someone Jets would look at for GM. They liked him in 2013 but he was not interested. #nyj

Seems this list is only names from the '13 GM process.

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