k-met57 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Anyone talk themself's into the 6th pick being fine? i was pretty bummed about dropping from 4-6 but thinking about it some more, i think this may be a blessing in disguise. Here are the top 6 right now: Winston Mariotta Cooper Ray Gregory L.Williams you can really make an argument for any of those guys helping the jets big time, and worst case scenario the jets could have a pick of the best OL in the draft if they don't like one of the above. Personally i wanted cooper, he may not be at 6...then again...not sure WR is the position to go with anyways when you have no QB and so many other holes. I also get the people that want Mariotta or Winston, but both guys are a huge gamble either on the field, or off the field. Can the jets really afford to blow this pick? not if we want to see the playoffs any time soon. Would i take either? yes. but thats only because i'd keep picking QB's until i hit one. you can build a team around a QB if u hit one one in the draft. Considering Williams/Gregory are probably too talented to drop to 6, it sounds like worst case scenario for us is Shane Ray who is a Von Miller type of a talent, and the type of pass rusher we haven't had since John Abraham. Anyways, we have the cap space and whatever holes we don't fill in the draft we will have to try and fill by bringing in guys who can actually play (not Dimitry Patterson). All we need out of this draft is a couple of really good football players...and i think picking at 6 is a really good start no matte which way the draft falls. My best case scenario after Cooper at 6 is probably drafting Ray or the best available OT and then moving back up into round 1 for Kevin White or Strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 winston will be there at 6 take o-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I don't know much about the kids coming out in the draft until we get closer to the combine. I don't watch much college football but once the names start becoming more familiar I watch a lot of tape as well as the combine. Is Ray an OLB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Peat, Andrus Peat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 I don't know much about the kids coming out in the draft until we get closer to the combine. I don't watch much college football but once the names start becoming more familiar I watch a lot of tape as well as the combine. Is Ray an OLB? i think he is a DE in college, but he is one of those 240ish DE's that project at pass rushing LB's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 i think he is a DE in college, but he is one of those 240ish DE's that project at pass rushing LB's... Thanks for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Peat, Andrus Peat lets see what happens by mid jan...the lure of being a top 10 pick might get him to come out...from what i heard he was staying previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I think the last two times the Jets picked at 6 they took Richard Todd, and Vernon Gholston. Not to worry, what could go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 I think the last two times the Jets picked at 6 they took Richard Todd, and Vernon Gholston. Not to worry, what could go wrong? i dont remember much about Todd, but Gholston was the right pick at the time...he just ended up being a dog (kind of like Clowney). By all accounts there are no dogs in the top 6 this year. you can poke fun, but with the right football leadership i have faith the jets will make the right pick for the franchise and for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I think the last two times the Jets picked at 6 they took Richard Todd, and Vernon Gholston. Not to worry, what could go wrong? LOL history does indeed repeat itself and in the Jets case thats not a good thing, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Ray or Schreff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandarinia Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 If Mariota, Winston, or Hundley or unavailable by the 6th pick, I'd like to see the Jets pick up Cooper or Parker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 If Mariota, Winston, or Hundley or unavailable by the 6th pick, I'd like to see the Jets pick up Cooper or Parker. Wondering where Hundley will end up going but I can see him being one of those late first guys. I feel like his stock will rise bc he'll be one of those guys who will have everything you're looking for without pads. I would love for the Jets to take him, just not sure I trust him enough in the first round though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 If Mariota, Winston, or Hundley or unavailable by the 6th pick, I'd like to see the Jets pick up Cooper or Parker. Brett Hundley going in the top 5? lol Cooper I would love to get at 6 but that's not happening. I can see the draft playing out like this: 1. TB - Winston/Mariota (whatever is their preference) 2. Ten - Winston/Mariota (whoever is left) 3. Jags - Cooper 4. Raiders - Leonard Williams 5. Redskins - Randy Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Can't see jags going receiver at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 we need Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Can't see jags going receiver at all Y wouldn't Jags take cooper, Blackmon is a drug bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Y wouldn't Jags take cooper, Blackmon is a drug bust Shorts, Hurns, Robinson, and Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Y wouldn't Jags take cooper, Blackmon is a drug bustJust drafted Robinson and Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Shorts, Hurns, Robinson, and Lee. Im not sure Lee will be a bigtime #1, Shorts Hurns and Robinson are decent. I think their big problem is Bortles who IMO will bust like david carr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenmerc03 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Anyone talk themself's into the 6th pick being fine? i was pretty bummed about dropping from 4-6 but thinking about it some more, i think this may be a blessing in disguise. Here are the top 6 right now: Winston Mariotta Cooper Ray Gregory L.Williams you can really make an argument for any of those guys helping the jets big time, and worst case scenario the jets could have a pick of the best OL in the draft if they don't like one of the above. Personally i wanted cooper, he may not be at 6...then again...not sure WR is the position to go with anyways when you have no QB and so many other holes. I also get the people that want Mariotta or Winston, but both guys are a huge gamble either on the field, or off the field. Can the jets really afford to blow this pick? not if we want to see the playoffs any time soon. Would i take either? yes. but thats only because i'd keep picking QB's until i hit one. you can build a team around a QB if u hit one one in the draft. Considering Williams/Gregory are probably too talented to drop to 6, it sounds like worst case scenario for us is Shane Ray who is a Von Miller type of a talent, and the type of pass rusher we haven't had since John Abraham. Anyways, we have the cap space and whatever holes we don't fill in the draft we will have to try and fill by bringing in guys who can actually play (not Dimitry Patterson). All we need out of this draft is a couple of really good football players...and i think picking at 6 is a really good start no matte which way the draft falls. My best case scenario after Cooper at 6 is probably drafting Ray or the best available OT and then moving back up into round 1 for Kevin White or Strong. Cosign. OL With the first pick if Cooper is gone. Then trade back into the first for Jaelen Strong or Kevin White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Im not sure Lee will be a bigtime #1, Shorts Hurns and Robinson are decent. I think their big problem is Bortles who IMO will bust like david carr Having a "number 1" is overrated. The good teams don't keep drafting receivers until they have a "number 1", they draft enough receivers to have a productive passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Cooper at 6. If the Raiders take him then Brandon Scherff all the way, guy is an animal and would be a great heir to Mangold as the boss hog of the offensive line. The Jets will have the opportunity to jump Oakland via a trade up with the Jaguars. It shouldn't take too much to do it either considering it is only 3 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 If the Jets had been picking three this same thread exists "Oh Noes, we miss out on both QBs!" like we'd be so happy with Leonard Williams. 3 isn't much better than 6. its the difference between 1 and 3 that's worth crying about it's entirely possible Cooper is there at 6. He probably isn't going to be a blazing fast prospect also, we don't know who the JPP or ODBJ or other acronym will be this year. There could even be a QB with an amazing Senior Bowl week etc. It's way too early for this sort of moaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 didn't buffalo give up 2 firsts to go from 9 to 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 If the Jets had been picking three this same thread exists "Oh Noes, we miss out on both QBs!" like we'd be so happy with Leonard Williams. 3 isn't much better than 6. its the difference between 1 and 3 that's worth crying about It's way too early for this sort of moaning. 1st off it's entirely possible Cooper is there at 6. He probably isn't going to be a blazing fast prospect 2nd, we don't know who the JPP or ODBJ or other acronym will be this year. There could even be a QB with an amazing Senior Bowl week etc. Way too early to worry about it. I This is something that a lot of Jet fans who are assuming we have no chance at Cooper are missing. Cooper is a player with game speed that relies very much on his route running. His 40 time is not going to be great for a potential top 5 wide receiver and could easily drop him out of the top 5. Especially since the Raiders are enamored with 40 times and bench press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funaz Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 winston will be there at 6 take o-line No he wont. I hope Jets move up to get him though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Oline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 No he wont. I hope Jets move up to get him though he might be, teams are going to look at Manziels nonsense and shy away from Winston even more, maybe unfair but you know that will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Top 8 players in draft as we speak. The combine can change this. Also we need to find out who is declaring. 1. Marcus Marriota 2. Leonard Williams 3. Shane Ray 4. Jalen Strong 5. Connor Cook 6. Randy Gregory 7. Todd Gurley 8. Nate Orchard Winston like I did last year with Clowney can't be on my list because of conduct and his prone to get in trouble. If Dorial Green Beckham comes out he is on this list but he is probably going to play for Oklahoma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Top 8 players in draft as we speak. The combine can change this. Also we need to find out who is declaring. 1. Marcus Marriota 2. Leonard Williams 3. Shane Ray 4. Jalen Strong 5. Connor Cook 6. Randy Gregory 7. Todd Gurley 8. Nate Orchard Winston like I did last year with Clowney can't be on my list because of conduct and his prone to get in trouble. If Dorial Green Beckham comes out he is on this list but he is probably going to play for Oklahoma. Connor Cook has already said he's going back to school for his senior year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Connor Cook has already said he's going back to school for his senior year.I thought I heard that but did not know it was official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Can't see jags going receiver at all Read that and immediately thought of Matt Millen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Read that and immediately thought of Matt Millen. u don't have to go that far back. looks at tampa. did they really need to spend a top 10 pick on a receiver and then pick up a TE in the second? meanwhile they were 4th in the NFL is sacks allowed and 29th in rushing yards per game. its just dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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