mattyb143224 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Strategy Change roster to implement 4-3 Defense. Clean house. Add QB of the future. Restructure OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson WR Percy Harvin Release RB Chris Johnson TE Jeff Cumberland Re-Sign LB David Harris [4 yrs. 16 mil] RB Bilal Powell [3 yrs. 8 mil] FS Jaiqawn Jarrett [2 yrs. 4 mil] Trade DL Mo Wilkerson to Eagles for 1st and 3rd round picks Free-Agents DT Ndamukong Suh [6 yrs. 100 mil] OG Mike Iupati [5 yrs. 45 mil] DE Brian Orakpo [3 yrs. 18 mil] CB Buster Skrine [2 yrs. 6 mil] QB Shaun hill [1 yrs. 4 mil] DL Leger Douzable [1 yrs. 2 mil] Draft 1. QB Jameis Winston 1. CB Trae Waynes 2. WR Dorial Green-Beckham 3. OLB Zach Hodges 3. OT Corey Robinson 4. DE Corey Crawford [Comp. pick acquired from D. Harrison depart FA] 5. RB Josh Robinson 6. QB Sean Mannion [Comp. pick acquired from K. Ellis depart FA] 6. CB Damian Swann 7. MLB AJ Tarpley Depth Chart QB - Smith, Hill, Winston, Mannion RB - Ivory, Powell, Richardson, Robinson FB - Bohanon WR - Decker, Harvin, Kerley, Green-Beckham, Evans, Enunwa, Hakim TE - Amaro, Sudfield, Pantale OT - Ferguson, Breno, Robinson OG - Iupati, Aboushi, Winters, Dozier C - Mangold, Freeman DE - Orakpo, Coples, Babin, Enemkpali, Crawford DT - Suh, Richardson, Barnes, Douzable OLB - Davis, Hodges, Pace, Reilly MLB - Harris, Tarpley CB - Milliner, Skrine, Waynes, McDougle, M. Williams, Walls, Swann S - Pryor, Jarrett, Allen, Miles Notes: This would be depth chart for training camp. Open competition for the QB and CB position. Do not hand over Winston starting job, make him earn it. Draft another QB to keep pressure on him. DO NOT spend huge $$ for corner in FA but rather sign reliable FA and draft two more, with Milliner and McDougle returning from injury and Marcus Williams establishing himself as an NFL corner we now would have 5 solid cover corners. Take a chance on the incredibly talented but troubled Green-Beckham, have him be groomed under Decker and gives us flexibility on Percy Harvin. With Suh and Richardson destroying the interior, Coples and Orakpo could wreak havoc on QBs giving us one of the best front 7s in all of football. If Winston shows he can come in and start right away great, if not have him sit, mature, and learn from the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Sorry but you can't change the culture here and bring in Suh. I like a lot of what you have but I am not in favor of trading Wilkerson and paying Suh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The12th Man Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I want Suh......Suh Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Strategy Change roster to implement 4-3 Defense. Clean house. Add QB of the future. Restructure OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson WR Percy Harvin Release RB Chris Johnson TE Jeff Cumberland Re-Sign LB David Harris [4 yrs. 16 mil] RB Bilal Powell [3 yrs. 8 mil] FS Jaiqawn Jarrett [2 yrs. 4 mil] Trade DL Mo Wilkerson to Eagles for 1st and 3rd round picks Free-Agents DT Ndamukong Suh [6 yrs. 100 mil] OG Mike Iupati [5 yrs. 45 mil] DE Brian Orakpo [3 yrs. 18 mil] CB Buster Skrine [2 yrs. 6 mil] QB Shaun hill [1 yrs. 4 mil] DL Leger Douzable [1 yrs. 2 mil] Draft 1. QB Jameis Winston 1. CB Trae Waynes 2. WR Dorial Green-Beckham 3. OLB Zach Hodges 3. OT Corey Robinson 4. DE Corey Crawford [Comp. pick acquired from D. Harrison depart FA] 5. RB Josh Robinson 6. QB Sean Mannion [Comp. pick acquired from K. Ellis depart FA] 6. CB Damian Swann 7. MLB AJ Tarpley Depth Chart QB - Smith, Hill, Winston, Mannion RB - Ivory, Powell, Richardson, Robinson FB - Bohanon WR - Decker, Harvin, Kerley, Green-Beckham, Evans, Enunwa, Hakim TE - Amaro, Sudfield, Pantale OT - Ferguson, Breno, Robinson OG - Iupati, Aboushi, Winters, Dozier C - Mangold, Freeman DE - Orakpo, Coples, Babin, Enemkpali, Crawford DT - Suh, Richardson, Barnes, Douzable OLB - Davis, Hodges, Pace, Reilly MLB - Harris, Tarpley CB - Milliner, Skrine, Waynes, McDougle, M. Williams, Walls, Swann S - Pryor, Jarrett, Allen, Miles Notes: This would be depth chart for training camp. Open competition for the QB and CB position. Do not hand over Winston starting job, make him earn it. Draft another QB to keep pressure on him. DO NOT spend huge $$ for corner in FA but rather sign reliable FA and draft two more, with Milliner and McDougle returning from injury and Marcus Williams establishing himself as an NFL corner we now would have 5 solid cover corners. Take a chance on the incredibly talented but troubled Green-Beckham, have him be groomed under Decker and gives us flexibility on Percy Harvin. With Suh and Richardson destroying the interior, Coples and Orakpo could wreak havoc on QBs giving us one of the best front 7s in all of football. If Winston shows he can come in and start right away great, if not have him sit, mature, and learn from the bench. Comp picks for this year's FA's won't be given until next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Comp picks for this year's FA's won't be given until next year. +1 Beat me to it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 David Harris is going to be 31 in two weeks and is already a liability on certain downs. Why bring him back for 4 years at 4 million a year? I just don't think they need to bring him back. Harvin probably won't restructure either. I think that is wishful thinking. A return like that would be great for Mo, and I'd be okay with that. I want no part of Winston. Many scouts have said this is a poor QB class if you're looking for a franchise guy. I don't see him maturing as a person or as a Quarterback to be useful at the #6 draft position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19andOhWait Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Orakpo cant stay on the field. no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 You understand that both Fletcher Cox and Mo will be FA in 2016, they don't have a qb and they are going to Kelly is going to make that trade? I like Wilkenson alot, but I don't see the eagles going there, maybe a lesser talent but not a 12 mil a year guy. The eagle fans will lynch him for paying mo 12 and giving up two top picks when Suh only gets 25% more. Orakpo is light at 6mill for a 3 year contract. He might play 1 year for 6 to prove he is healthy and then sign a long term deal. Skrine is going to get more than that and for longer term. you don't get comp picks this year for players that you lose this year. And why is Ferguson going to renegotiate his deal downward this year? It will make no sense for him to do so. He would be the #1 FA tackle in football and the jets only save 2 mill by cutting him. He will get at least 5 years 40 mill with at least 1/2 of it guaranteed. "Dbrick we need you to take less money" "No thank you" Players only give up money when they can't make more somewhere else. He wil take it as such a slap in the face that the team has 40 mill of cap space and they want him to take less. now next year, when if they cut him they will save almost 10 mill and he is 32 and tougher to get that 4 or 5 year deal somewhere else it may make sense from both the jets and his perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 People here think that there are about 31 teams busting down the Jets nose to trade for Mo and pay him 10+Mil a yr even though they can have Suh for no compensation, just higher salary with more production.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 People here think that there are about 31 teams busting down the Jets nose to trade for Mo and pay him 10+Mil a yr even though they can have Suh for no compensation, just higher salary with more production.... This type of response is from someone that doesn't know how the market works. There will be 8-10 teams, maybe more who are after Suh. Only one team can land him. All the other suitors will resort to plan B. Mo Wilk will be highly sought after by those remaining teams if the Jets make him available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 This type of response is from someone that doesn't know how the market works. There will be 8-10 teams, maybe more who are after Suh. Only one team can land him. All the other suitors will resort to plan B. Mo Wilk will be highly sought after by those remaining teams if the Jets make him available. And I don't think there will be more than 3 or 4 teams that are players for Suh at 18 mill a year. For you to even be considered a player for suh, you will need about 30 mill of cap room or you only have one or two needs. Not at the price of 12 mill and a first and 3rd, He is a very good player but that is the same comp that you got for Revis, a HOF player and one of the 5 best CB in Football. I like Wilkenson, but he is not even the best DL on his team nor would he be on the Eagles. Look at what the pats got for Seymour- a first two years down the road. Now I probably like Wilkenson a lot more than most of the jet fans on this board, but I would not want the pats to give up the 28th-32nd and a 3rd rd pick and make him the highest paid player on the team an you know he holds all the leverage as you just traded all that for him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Sorry, but you lost me with the first draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 That's ******* awful. Nice work well thought out well written but ******* awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 This type of response is from someone that doesn't know how the market works. There will be 8-10 teams, maybe more who are after Suh. Only one team can land him. All the other suitors will resort to plan B. Mo Wilk will be highly sought after by those remaining teams if the Jets make him available. This presents three scenarios: 1. Lets assume Jets pick up Suh for 6 yrs 100mil. Everyone knows we will be getting rid of Mo via trade. Who will offer a 1st and a 3rd for Mo? 2. Lets assume Eagles pick up Suh for 6 yrs 100mil. Do we really wanna trade away our best defender for an unknown first rounder while having no one to replace Mo in the first place? Draft a first round rookie DE again? That most likely won't be as good as Mo at least in his rookie year? 3. If we try to trade away Mo before the FA starts, do you really think Eagles (for example) would give us a 1st and a 3rd when they see suh hitting the FA in a few days? Teams will wait, unless Jets asking price is like a 3rd rounder...certainly not worth it for us. But what do I know "how the market works"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy IRisH Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Big Mo will be traded to to move up in the draft. Tampa gets Mo and 6. We get #1 and swap second rounders. Who wants to bet on it. Lovie would love him some Mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyshuler Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 That's ******* awful. Nice work well thought out well written but ******* awful. I groaned at Harris, almost stopped reading with us getting a 1st and a 3rd for Mo, scrolled away when I saw Winston....think I even threw up in my mouth a tad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 This presents three scenarios: 1. Lets assume Jets pick up Suh for 6 yrs 100mil. Everyone knows we will be getting rid of Mo via trade. Who will offer a 1st and a 3rd for Mo? 2. Lets assume Eagles pick up Suh for 6 yrs 100mil. Do we really wanna trade away our best defender for an unknown first rounder while having no one to replace Mo in the first place? Draft a first round rookie DE again? That most likely won't be as good as Mo at least in his rookie year? 3. If we try to trade away Mo before the FA starts, do you really think Eagles (for example) would give us a 1st and a 3rd when they see suh hitting the FA in a few days? Teams will wait, unless Jets asking price is like a 3rd rounder...certainly not worth it for us. But what do I know "how the market works"... Mo is a legit talent. More then one team would be after him so he will get you a first for sure. Everyone knew we were trading Revis and look what we got. Im not saying we should trade Mo. But if we did we are getting at least a #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Mo is a legit talent. More then one team would be after him so he will get you a first for sure. Everyone knew we were trading Revis and look what we got. Im not saying we should trade Mo. But if we did we are getting at least a #1. I disagree with u about Revis. We had no backup to step in once we traded Revis. It had more to do with Revis being on the block for the right price, or remain a Jet. When teams know you're going to et rid of s guy due to having a better alternative (talent/salary), the trade value is hardly representive of the talent. Teams will only trade IF they feel they wouldn't have a reasonable chance of signing the player if he's outright released. So they'll offer a mid round pick at most. With Suh on board, even a 4th round pick would be huge n that is not his value of course. I'm also not on the boat of trading Mo n signing Suh. If we can get a 1st n a 3rd for Mo while picking up Suh, I'm down for it. But Mo is not bringing in Revis value in trade. Revis is possibly the 2nd best ever to play CB behind Deion Sanders (some may even debate that). Mo is yet to reach a PB in 4 yrs n probably not even the best DE in the AFCE alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Ummmmmmmmmm I WANT TO BET ON IT!!!!! How about 100 million dollars? Not only does Tampa give up the #1 pick in the draft and agree to move down 6 spots for a defensive end with no long term contract and who would be lucky to be considered top 15 at his position.... But he also doesn't fit their defensive scheme, and they have a glaring need at QB, BUT ..... they also give us the #33 pick in the draft and move down 6 spots there as well. If you couldn't even get it to work in Madden, chances are it also wouldn't work in real life. Madden worked for him. That's why he's willing to bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Comp picks for this year's FA's won't be given until next year. +1 Beat me to it.. They won't get any comp picks for them next year, either, if the team signs more free agents than it loses - which is pretty likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 You just sign Suh & keep Mo! You can structure contracts to suit a specific year by giving more upfront money. Mo is signed for 2015, you can franchise him in 2016. 2016 would be the impact year with both but what that does is pits Mos skills vs Sheldons skills. You would have 2 years to watch Mo & Sheldon work with the Suh beast to find out who's really special. You trade the lesser player after it plays out. Nasty Dlineman don't grow on trees in the NFL but I think Mo is an above average Dlineman but Suh & Richardson are SPECIAL guys at the top of the league. Football players are competitive people with huge egos. You put Mo- Suh- Sheldon together for 2 years, as fans your gonna have some fun watching these guys wreak havoc. Maybe Ik comes into his own & starts beasting to because these guys will draw so much attention the trickle down effect goes through the entire defense when matchups start favoring other players. Suh would be the biggest addition to the defense. Now you have the draft & free agency to find CB, LB, WR, RG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smaxor5 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I'm having a very hard time believing you know anything about this team if you want DAVID HARRIS playing Middle ******* Linebacker in a 4-3. I don't give a sh*t that he graded out well in coverage on PFF he is SLOW. AS. sh*t. No offense but this is garbage. Other criticisms: 1. You want a guy who has only played Linebacker his entire career and continually gets hurt to switch positions? 2. Every indication right now is that Jameis is going back to school to screw some more college chicks. Even if he were on the board we wouldn't get him at 6...long shot at best. 3. You want to trade our second best and extremely versatile lineman who has been a good soldier and a standout leader? That sure will make more people want to play for us! 4. Douzable would be a re-sign (nitpicking at this point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 You just sign Suh & keep Mo! You can structure contracts to suit a specific year by giving more upfront money. Mo is signed for 2015, you can franchise him in 2016. 2016 would be the impact year with both but what that does is pits Mos skills vs Sheldons skills. You would have 2 years to watch Mo & Sheldon work with the Suh beast to find out who's really special. You trade the lesser player after it plays out. Nasty Dlineman don't grow on trees in the NFL but I think Mo is an above average Dlineman but Suh & Richardson are SPECIAL guys at the top of the league. Football players are competitive people with huge egos. You put Mo- Suh- Sheldon together for 2 years, as fans your gonna have some fun watching these guys wreak havoc. Maybe Ik comes into his own & starts beasting to because these guys will draw so much attention the trickle down effect goes through the entire defense when matchups start favoring other players. Suh would be the biggest addition to the defense. Now you have the draft & free agency to find CB, LB, WR, RG. It is much more reasonable for a team to trade value for Mo know than one year after being tagged, do you understand that his 2017 salary will be 22mill if that happens? The trading team will be screwed beyond belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Strategy Change roster to implement 4-3 Defense. Clean house. Add QB of the future. Restructure OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson WR Percy Harvin Release RB Chris Johnson TE Jeff Cumberland Re-Sign LB David Harris [4 yrs. 16 mil] RB Bilal Powell [3 yrs. 8 mil] FS Jaiqawn Jarrett [2 yrs. 4 mil] Trade DL Mo Wilkerson to Eagles for 1st and 3rd round picks Free-Agents DT Ndamukong Suh [6 yrs. 100 mil] OG Mike Iupati [5 yrs. 45 mil] DE Brian Orakpo [3 yrs. 18 mil] CB Buster Skrine [2 yrs. 6 mil] QB Shaun hill [1 yrs. 4 mil] DL Leger Douzable [1 yrs. 2 mil] Draft 1. QB Jameis Winston 1. CB Trae Waynes 2. WR Dorial Green-Beckham 3. OLB Zach Hodges 3. OT Corey Robinson 4. DE Corey Crawford [Comp. pick acquired from D. Harrison depart FA] 5. RB Josh Robinson 6. QB Sean Mannion [Comp. pick acquired from K. Ellis depart FA] 6. CB Damian Swann 7. MLB AJ Tarpley Depth Chart QB - Smith, Hill, Winston, Mannion RB - Ivory, Powell, Richardson, Robinson FB - Bohanon WR - Decker, Harvin, Kerley, Green-Beckham, Evans, Enunwa, Hakim TE - Amaro, Sudfield, Pantale OT - Ferguson, Breno, Robinson OG - Iupati, Aboushi, Winters, Dozier C - Mangold, Freeman DE - Orakpo, Coples, Babin, Enemkpali, Crawford DT - Suh, Richardson, Barnes, Douzable OLB - Davis, Hodges, Pace, Reilly MLB - Harris, Tarpley CB - Milliner, Skrine, Waynes, McDougle, M. Williams, Walls, Swann S - Pryor, Jarrett, Allen, Miles Notes: This would be depth chart for training camp. Open competition for the QB and CB position. Do not hand over Winston starting job, make him earn it. Draft another QB to keep pressure on him. DO NOT spend huge $$ for corner in FA but rather sign reliable FA and draft two more, with Milliner and McDougle returning from injury and Marcus Williams establishing himself as an NFL corner we now would have 5 solid cover corners. Take a chance on the incredibly talented but troubled Green-Beckham, have him be groomed under Decker and gives us flexibility on Percy Harvin. With Suh and Richardson destroying the interior, Coples and Orakpo could wreak havoc on QBs giving us one of the best front 7s in all of football. If Winston shows he can come in and start right away great, if not have him sit, mature, and learn from the bench. The Eagles d-line is pretty good; I think they are at the top of the sacks rankings ahead of us. We should be able to get a 1st (don't know about an additional 3rd) for Mo but don't think the Eagles would be our trade partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 People here think that there are about 31 teams busting down the Jets nose to trade for Mo and pay him 10+Mil a yr even though they can have Suh for no compensation, just higher salary with more production.... Well unless you can make a feasible case against it, I don't see why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Well unless you can make a feasible case against it, I don't see why not. I already did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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