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derp Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Pretty sharp Jags fan I know of thinks Smith was absolutely awful. This is very underwhelming. Didn't love the Gailey hire either. Like the Bowles move and Maccagnan seems solid, the process for hiring them both was great, but the stuff since has been more meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 BASE HITS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 http://www.ganggreennation.com/2015/1/14/7548559/la-canfora-new-york-jets-considering-hiring-gene-smith Oh no. This day was going so well. Jason La CanforaVerified account @JasonLaCanfora As the Jets transform their front office, I continue to hear there is a strong chance ex-Jags GM Gene Smith has a considerable role w/them Gene Smith is the former general manager of the Jacksonville Jaguars. He is a personnel man, and he was a disaster, to put it lightly. Terry Bradway once drafted a kicker in the second round of the NFL Draft. Smith drafted a punter in the third round. If we are replacing Bradway with Bradway Lite, I will be beside myself. Maybe Smith is a Peter Principle kinda guy. I don't know. I do believe, however, that if he's hired in a Bradway-like role, we'll be in the same place we were for the past fourteen years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I hope they decide against Smith. I love the Bowles hire not so crazy about are GM hire, at least he is a not a bean counter but Smith would not be very encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Did he ever take a trip to Disney on the first day of Free Agency? If not he's an upgrade on Bradway. I'll take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I hope they decide against Smith. I love the Bowles hire not so crazy about are GM hire, at least he is a not a bean counter but Smith would not be very encouraging. Agreed. Unless he will be the Director of College Scouting/ Personnel Director for us? The overhaul and staffing of the scouting dept. requires full time oversight...time which Maccagnan does not have time for at these early stages of his job. He has a LOT to do in a very short time. Delegation is a key to him successfully nailing this draft and FA period. The more eyes we have the better. As long as the right set of eyes are making the final decision. After last years epic fail, we can't afford to have 1 missed pick out of the 6 we have. Wouldn't mind acquiring extra picks this draft by trading out of #6 if we can get OUR player later in the round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 http://www.ganggreennation.com/2015/1/14/7548559/la-canfora-new-york-jets-considering-hiring-gene-smith Oh no. This day was going so well. Jason La CanforaVerified account @JasonLaCanfora As the Jets transform their front office, I continue to hear there is a strong chance ex-Jags GM Gene Smith has a considerable role w/them Gene Smith is the former general manager of the Jacksonville Jaguars. He is a personnel man, and he was a disaster, to put it lightly. Terry Bradway once drafted a kicker in the second round of the NFL Draft. Smith drafted a punter in the third round. If we are replacing Bradway with Bradway Lite, I will be beside myself. Maybe Smith is a Peter Principle kinda guy. I don't know. I do believe, however, that if he's hired in a Bradway-like role, we'll be in the same place we were for the past fourteen years. Welcome to Wednesday. This whole this is based on two tweets. Jason LaCanfora, who has been wrong about everything so far this offseason, reported this on Wednesday evening and then yesterday morning Adam Schefter reported that if Smith is hired at all it would be in more of an advisory capacity and not a "significant role" as LaCanfora claimed. I find it interesting that the Jets beat writers haven't mentioned this at all or found any other sources to confirm. The only news I can find about this when I search are articles referring to initial LaCanfora's tweet as their source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Welcome to Wednesday. This whole this is based on two tweets. Jason LaCanfora, who has been wrong about everything so far this offseason, reported this on Wednesday evening and then yesterday morning Adam Schefter reported that if Smith is hired at all it would be in more of an advisory capacity and not a "significant role" as LaCanfora claimed. I find it interesting that the Jets beat writers haven't mentioned this at all or found any other sources to confirm. The only news I can find about this when I search are articles referring to initial LaCanfora's tweet as their source. Agreed.... however I am quite anxious to see how he decides to improve the personnel evaluation process. He's going to need someone to evaluate from the ground up where the failures are coming from and fix it. I'd guess that that the current scouts will be kept through this draft, with Mac bringing in a few of "HIS" guys to help him evaluate the reports and study film. While that's going on Smith or someone else needs to be putting a plan together for after the draft in retooling the whole Scouting and Personnel Departments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Agreed. Unless he will be the Director of College Scouting/ Personnel Director for us? The overhaul and staffing of the scouting dept. requires full time oversight...time which Maccagnan does not have time for at these early stages of his job. He has a LOT to do in a very short time. Delegation is a key to him successfully nailing this draft and FA period. The more eyes we have the better. As long as the right set of eyes are making the final decision. After last years epic fail, we can't afford to have 1 missed pick out of the 6 we have. Wouldn't mind acquiring extra picks this draft by trading out of #6 if we can get OUR player later in the round. I would rather hear Tom Gambles's name mentioned as Director of College Scouting/Personnel Director than Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I would rather hear Tom Gambles's name mentioned as Director of College Scouting/Personnel Director than Smith. That is a TERRIFIC suggestion. Was trying to think of a good front office guy out of work to take that position... you nailed it. Get it done Wolf/Casserly/Maccagnan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 That is a TERRIFIC suggestion. Was trying to think of a good front office guy out of work to take that position... you nailed it. Get it done Wolf/Casserly/Maccagnan. I know he was basically fired in philly and I dont think he has been hired by anyone. I dont know if he would accept a role with the Jets after he was turned down for the GM spot, but you never now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I know he was basically fired in philly and I dont think he has been hired by anyone. I dont know if he would accept a role with the Jets after he was turned down for the GM spot, but you never now. I don't think he ever had an interview with the Jets this go around. Before the Idzik hire ... yes. Isn't he close with either Wolf or Casserly? Maybe he'd prefer being in the game than standing on the sideline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I don't think he ever had an interview with the Jets this go around. Before the Idzik hire ... yes. Isn't he close with either Wolf or Casserly? Maybe he'd prefer being in the game than standing on the sideline? No not this year he was our first interview the year we hired Idzik. I am not sure if he has any connections with Wolf or Casserly. This would be a solid move by the Jets if they decided to hire him. I wanted Gamble as the GM over Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 No not this year he was our first interview the year we hired Idzik. I am not sure if he has any connections with Wolf or Casserly. This would be a solid move by the Jets if they decided to hire him. I wanted Gamble as the GM over Idzik. Upon further thought, I think it was the Eagles President of Football Operations (Roseman??) who has ties to the Jets organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Oh ok, too bad it wasn't Gamble. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I hope they decide against Smith. I love the Bowles hire not so crazy about are GM hire, at least he is a not a bean counter but Smith would not be very encouraging. I talked to someone with the Jets on Friday that said if they hire Gene Smith it wouldn't be in either of the roles they just opened up (Bradway \ Bauer). I got the impression they are definitely hiring him but it would be not for scouting, I think some others have called it Assistant GM or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I talked to someone with the Jets on Friday that said if they hire Gene Smith it wouldn't be in either of the roles they just opened up (Bradway \ Bauer). I got the impression they are definitely hiring him but it would be not for scouting, I think some others have called it Assistant GM or something like that. Thanks for the info. I still am a little discouraged about Smith having any role in our front office. I feel that there are better candidates out there than Smith. I would even prefer Mark Dominick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Former scout, director of college scouting, and GM of the Jags. NOT SALARY CAP GUY Obviously they are looking at what he did to get himself promoted to GM, not what came after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinamite Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Tom Gamble'a name always comes up with jets fans, and I would like him for the Brad way position too. But isn't it peculiar that he has not gotten any attention in job market after being let go? Plus, doesn't seem like woody liked him from first interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Tom Gamble'a name always comes up with jets fans, and I would like him for the Brad way position too. But isn't it peculiar that he has not gotten any attention in job market after being let go? Plus, doesn't seem like woody liked him from first interview. Gamble was the super-hot name two years ago when there were a number of GM jobs open (including the Jets) and he failed to land any of them. The rumor is that he bombed the Jets interview, showing little working knowledge of the salary cap. The 49ers let him walk, and he wound up taking a lateral position with the Eagles - a job he held until he was escorted off their property. I think his name continues to come up now because of how hot it was two years ago, but there are some red flags with this guy. Be interesting to see what his next job will be. As for the Jets, Gamble and Maccagnan have similar pedigrees, so even without the failed interview he's probably not a great fit here. The Jets need a cap guy and a pro personnel guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Thanks for the info. I still am a little discouraged about Smith having any role in our front office. I feel that there are better candidates out there than Smith. I would even prefer Mark Dominick I think Mike M having a comfort level is important. There are a lot of administrative functions that a pure scouting type GM would need help with. So the comfort level \ trust is huge. That said, please don't let Gene even read any draft reports lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Agreed, shouldn't be let anywhere near the draft board or war room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 You're kidding? He might be worse than Matt Millen. This guy drafted a punter in the 3rd round. Holy sh*t this better not be true. He's Idzik level bad. You do remember much of the last 4 years right? our punter was our key player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Thanks for the info. I still am a little discouraged about Smith having any role in our front office. I feel that there are better candidates out there than Smith. I would even prefer Mark Dominick How can you say that when you don't even know what role Mike M has in mind for Smith. Also none of us here know all of Smith's qualifications or Dominick's for that matter. I wonder if 2 yrs ago people knew of Rod Graves and objected to his hiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Agreed, shouldn't be let anywhere near the draft board or war room. Oh gawd. Not even a week and the "experts" know what's right or wrong for building a FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 It's amazing to me how Woody Johnson and his consultants missed out on all the qualified candidates around here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Oh gawd. Not even a week and the "experts" know what's right or wrong for building a FO. Have you seen his draft history or done any research on him? I have and he is not someone I would want in our FO, and don't give me this expert BS this is my opinion. There are more talented assistants out there then Smith. I am sorry we Insulted your football intelligence by expressing our opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Welcome to Wednesday. This whole this is based on two tweets. Jason LaCanfora, who has been wrong about everything so far this offseason, reported this on Wednesday evening and then yesterday morning Adam Schefter reported that if Smith is hired at all it would be in more of an advisory capacity and not a "significant role" as LaCanfora claimed. I find it interesting that the Jets beat writers haven't mentioned this at all or found any other sources to confirm. The only news I can find about this when I search are articles referring to initial LaCanfora's tweet as their source. The Jets' beat writers have been covering Rex more than the Jets since his PC lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Addition by subtraction: I don't care if they let Jets' twitter followers complete a poll to come up with players, it'll still be better than the losers we seem to pick every year. I want as many guys involved in the scouting side of things as possible. I don't think we need a special caps guy, when there are plenty of corporate lawyers or accountants out there, that can finish these contracts with input from the GM. Our biggest problem hasn't been resigning people at the right price, it's picking the wrong people in the wrong round. I'm borderline on Smith. I would rather hire Gamble as well as a director of scouting. Just going through the drafts for Smith, he had an affinity towards picking OL, CB, WR, which may hint that those are his areas of expertise (albeit the picks were mostly miss clouded by some roster inadequacies). But Gamble would be a much better guy to pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 You're kidding? He might be worse than Matt Millen. This guy drafted a punter in the 3rd round. Holy sh*t this better not be true. He's Idzik level bad. He was projected to go in the 3rd-4th round. Its not like he didn't have the resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Not to be confused with Geno Smith: The Jets are poised to hire former Jacksonville Jaguars GM Gene Smith for a front-office position, probably working closely with Maccagnan. Smith had an inglorious run as the Jaguars' boss, drafting quarterback Blaine Gabbert (brutal) and a punter in the third round (Bryan Anger, 2012), but at least one longtime executive thinks he'd be a good fit for the Jets. "His record wasn't great as the top guy, but he's a good brick layer, a hard worker," the executive said. "I think he'd be a good assistant GM. I think he'd be good for Mike." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Gene Smith ran Jacksonville into the ground. Sounds like a great fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Gene Smith ran Jacksonville into the ground. Sounds like a great fit. He didn't have far to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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