Villain The Foe Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Is not a top 3 QB in the NFL, at least not yet. Russell Wilson? Top 5 quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Name another better QB not named Rodgers or Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 SUCKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Name another better QB not named Rodgers or Brady. I'd take Flacco in a pinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Wilson got lucky Lynch is a beast. Normally going 14-29 with 4 ints doesn't win a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Better wait for sloppy seconds on CBS now. A real gag fest post game show. I shut it off just in time before a got splattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I'd take Flacco in a pinch. He's one year removed from throwing more interceptions than touchdowns. I think Stafford, Eli, and Flacco are all actually the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 Wilson got lucky Lynch is a beast. Normally going 14-29 with 4 ints doesn't win a game. Normally is right, but its not like thats the only win he's had in the playoffs. Before this afternoons game, in Russell's prior 6 playoff games he was 5-1, completed 64% of his passes, threw for 9TD's to just 1 int and also rushed for a TD with a rushing avg. of almost 6 yards a carry. Dude throws 4 picks early yet in O.T. who does Pete Carroll lean on? It wasnt Lynch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 I'd take Flacco in a pinch. So true. Joe Flacco is the 3rd best QB in the league right now, and its crazy that its even him given the sh*t I gave him early in his career, but these past few years especially in the playoffs Flacco has been a machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Luck will own this conference for the next decade. They draft a good RB, get him some better protection, and its over... Brady is an old fart and the Pats won't get home field advantage again. Indy goes 14-2 or 13-3 at worst next year, clinches home field. Bookmark this post if you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Luck will own this conference for the next decade. They draft a good RB, get him some better protection, and its over... Brady is an old fart and the Pats won't get home field advantage again. Indy goes 14-2 or 13-3 at worst next year, clinches home field. Bookmark this post if you like False Reggie Wayne is retiring other WRs aren't that good and the defense is very weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 False Reggie Wayne is retiring other WRs aren't that good and the defense is very weak Wayne and Nicks are garbage and won't play next year. Hilton, Moncrief, possibly another receiver come in. Its a young team that will get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I'll give it up that Flacco certainly steps up his game in the playoffs, but this is a QB that threw 19 TDs and 22 INTs last year and has exactly ZERO 4,000 yard seasons. If he's the third best QB in the NFL, then I'm the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 Luck will own this conference for the next decade. They draft a good RB, get him some better protection, and its over... Brady is an old fart and the Pats won't get home field advantage again. Indy goes 14-2 or 13-3 at worst next year, clinches home field. Bookmark this post if you like Brady may be an old fart but he just gave that young boy a major ass whipping. You say that Luck will own the conference because Brady will be retiring soon, but Flacco isn't. Also, even if Luck does own the conference, Wilson is owning the playoffs. In 3 years Wilson is 6-1 in the playoffs with 2 SB appearances and a SB win. The QB's he beat? RG3 Drew Brees Colin Kaepernick Peyton Manning (Superbowl) Cam Newton Aaron Rodgers You can put Brady's name next to the rest of them in 2 weeks. Luck may own a conference, but Wilson is owning the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 The colts are probably one of the worst ran franchises in the NFL they've just been lucky enough to have the first pick in the draft at the right time (drafting Manning and Luck) but have done an awful job building a team around them. Trading a first rd. pick for Trent Richardson has to go down as one of the worst trades in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 The colts are probably one of the worst ran franchises in the NFL they've just been lucky enough to have the first pick in the draft at the right time (drafting Manning and Luck) but have done an awful job building a team around them. Trading a first rd. pick for Trent Richardson has to go down as one of the worst trades in NFL history. You're totally right on that one. You know what the Colts need to do? Rehire Tony Dungy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Luck will own this conference for the next decade. They draft a good RB, get him some better protection, and its over... Brady is an old fart and the Pats won't get home field advantage again. Indy goes 14-2 or 13-3 at worst next year, clinches home field. Bookmark this post if you like Yeah, like we haven't heard this before....Brady is washed up, the Pats draft terribly, they are ripe for the picking. And here they are again in the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Normally is right, but its not like thats the only win he's had in the playoffs. Before this afternoons game, in Russell's prior 6 playoff games he was 5-1, completed 64% of his passes, threw for 9TD's to just 1 int and also rushed for a TD with a rushing avg. of almost 6 yards a carry. Dude throws 4 picks early yet in O.T. who does Pete Carroll lean on? It wasnt Lynch. I didn't say Wilson wasn't good. I said he got lucky today. If he stays on course he'll be a top QB once the old guys retire but Luck is definitely a better QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 You're totally right on that one. You know what the Colts need to do? Rehire Tony Dungy. Now, you're just f*cking baiting me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 Wayne and Nicks are garbage and won't play next year. Hilton, Moncrief, possibly another receiver come in. Its a young team that will get better. On offense, their problem is defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 Now, you're just f*cking baiting me. Lmao! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Yeah, like we haven't heard this before....Brady is washed up, the Pats draft terribly, they are ripe for the picking. And here they are again in the Super Bowl. Yeah, its totally wrong to say that. Because Brady will keep dominating until he is 55, the Pats don't suck at drafting skill positions like WR, the AFC East isn't going to improve at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 I didn't say Wilson wasn't good. I said he got lucky today. If he stays on course he'll be a top QB once the old guys retire but Luck is definitely a better QB. Luck is not a better QB when it counts, in the playoffs. To keep it fair, lets disregard wins and losses in the playoffs. In 5 games Luck completed just 59% of his passes, thrown for 9 TD's and 10 INT's...and thats not even counting the Pats game. This is the guy that people are saying is the best QB in the league not named Rodgers and Brady. He's thrown an INT in every playoff game except one, and in the games that he's thrown an INT he's thrown for multiple INT's in those games except one. Brother, if my team was down a TD in a playoff game whether wildcard or Super Bowl, and I had the option of picking Wilson or Luck to get my team back in it, I'm picking Wilson and it wouldnt even be hesitation in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Pats have been RIPE FOR THE SLAUGHTER on this site and a certain other that shall remain nameless for YEARS. Brady may not be tearing up records the past couple years, but he can still make all the throws, is as healthy as he has ever been recently, and doesn't rely on mobility at all. He is probably good for another three years barring significant injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 andrew luc, DAMN YOU SUCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32GreenIsGod Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Luck is in a garbage division and on a garbage team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Brady may be an old fart but he just gave that young boy a major ass whipping. You say that Luck will own the conference because Brady will be retiring soon, but Flacco isn't. Also, even if Luck does own the conference, Wilson is owning the playoffs. In 3 years Wilson is 6-1 in the playoffs with 2 SB appearances and a SB win. The QB's he beat? RG3 Drew Brees Colin Kaepernick Peyton Manning (Superbowl) Cam Newton Aaron Rodgers You can put Brady's name next to the rest of them in 2 weeks. Luck may own a conference, but Wilson is owning the league. Well no sh*t. Luck had nothing around him. Some scrub group of running backs, worthless old fart receivers like Nicks and Wayne. Doesn't have the elite protection that Tom does. No defensive front on the other side. I said the Patriots would win and they did, and they are the better team at present. It has nothing to do with Tom vs Luck, one team is much better equipped to win in post-season than the other. I was talking specifically about the AFC, don't know why Wilson comes into the discussion. Flacco is not a better QB than Andrew Luck. Brady might be top dog, but he is 38. Peyton is finished. Other than Brady or Roethlisberger, who does Luck have to contend with in future seasons? Andy Dalton? Indy is a playoff team since Luck arrived, they are a VERY YOUNG team that have improved with every season and they will only get better. Like i said, i'm happy to revisit this subject at the same time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 On offense, their problem is defense. A few good D-linemen away from being a decent unit. Secondary already looks good with Vontae/Toler and they have decent linebackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 Well no sh*t. Luck had nothing around him. Some scrub group of running backs, worthless old fart receivers like Nicks and Wayne. Doesn't have the elite protection that Tom does. No defensive front on the other side. I said the Patriots would win and they did, and they are the better team at present. It has nothing to do with Tom vs Luck, one team is much better equipped to win in post-season than the other. I was talking specifically about the AFC, don't know why Wilson comes into the discussion. Flacco is not a better QB than Andrew Luck. Brady might be top dog, but he is 38. Peyton is finished. Other than Brady or Roethlisberger, who does Luck have to contend with in future seasons? Indy is a playoff team since Luck arrived, they are a VERY YOUNG team that have improved with every season and they will only get better. Like i said, i'm happy to revisit this subject at the same time next year. Then if all of this information is apparent to you then stop talking about how he's going to run the conference for a decade. Wilson comes up in the conversation because the thread that was created surrounded Luck and Wilson. But if you dont like Wilson I'll tuck him away and we can deal purely with Joe Flacco. You want to talk better QB's? Put away regular season stats and go check playoff stats. You see, the playoffs are where all the good teams meet so the stats are more relative to the player. Go look at Andrew Luck and Joe Flacco's playoff Stats. Matter of fact, I'll leave the links here for you. Andrew Luck http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LuckAn00/gamelog/post/ Joe Flacco http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FlacJo00/gamelog/post/ Andrew Luck has thrown 12 INT's in just 6 playoff games. Flacco has thrown just 10 INT in 15 playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 This is entirely too reactionary. Sometimes we forget that he's only been in the league 3 years. Russell Wilson has as well, but as has been mentioned, his squad is loaded with talent. I don't think Villain was necessarily suggesting Wilson > Luck but I'm sure it crossed his mind given the nature of the thread. Luck has had to shoulder a much larger burden, dragging that franchise to postseason victories almost on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 A few good D-linemen away from being a decent unit. Secondary already looks good with Vontae/Toler and they have decent linebackers. Edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Put away regular season stats and go check playoff stats. You see, the playoffs are where all the good teams meet so the stats are more relative to the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 All QBs better than Luck: Rodgers Brady Wilson Big Ben Flacco Rivers Brees That said, Luck is still good. He's definitely top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 This is entirely too reactionary. Sometimes we forget that he's only been in the league 3 years. Russell Wilson has as well, but as has been mentioned, his squad is loaded with talent. I don't think Villain was necessarily suggesting Wilson > Luck but I'm sure it crossed his mind given the nature of the thread. Luck has had to shoulder a much larger burden, dragging that franchise to postseason victories almost on his own. You know whats funny? Why is it when guys like Andrew Luck lose then people talk about all of the pieces that he's missing yet when Russell Wilson wins they talk about how its only because he has all these pieces? It sounds a bit contradictory to me. Not saying you did that. Just reading your post brought that to mind. All the time people talk about all of the weapons available to Wilson that he utilizes rather well yet when a favorite player loses football games those same people use the excuse that they didnt have what they criticize Wilson for having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 I can cook that sh*t up bro! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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