Tinstar Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Tinstar's top 4 by Position at areas of need for our Jets. QB : Marcus Marriota Jameis Winston Sean Mannion Shane Carden Pass Rusher : Shane Ray Vic Beasley Shaq Thompson Randy Gregory CB : Kevin Johnson Kevin White P J Williams Trae Waynes OT : Brandon Schreff La'el Collins Andrus Peat Cedric Ogbuehi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Nice list, I'd add Dante Fowler Jr. to your pass rusher list. And I dont know where Ifo Ekpre-Olomu is at in his recovery, but he was probably the best CB in the country last year. I'd add Ronald Darby too. Not a big fan of Mannion and especially not of Carden. I'd put Hundley over both. Grayson is interesting but I think he might have been more of a prospect of the system that will be taking over the University of Florida! Petty too both system QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 What are everybody's thoughts on addressing the tackle spot in this draft? I'm pretty sure cutting Giacomini doesn't make sense financially and not sure he's a great fit to kick into guard at 6'7. Going offensive line tends to be a safe bet to improve a team and in theory I'm always on board with that, but this doesn't seem to be a great draft for tackles at the top and if Brick and Giacomini are locked in as the starting tackles this year I'd hate to start a rookie out at guard, move him to right tackle for a year after Giacomini gets cut (which I'd guess will happen in 2016), and then move him over to left tackle whenever Brick is done (I'm thinking he's got 2+ years left). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 I was tempted to leave Randy Gregory off the list and put Fowler Jr on instead, but seems everyone and their mama thinks that kid (Gregory) is the real deal. I just don't see it. Maybe I am missing something. About Mannion . I like everything about the kid as a pro prospect; He has the size at 6' 4 " & 230 He's got the arm Talent that allows him to make every NFL throw. He's played in a pro style offense taking snaps from under center He's accustomed to making checks at the LOS. His biggest negative is he throws off the wrong leg far too often, doesn't like to step into his throws the way you would like and you know exactly where he's going to be because he's not going to beat anyone in a foot race. I want to take this kid, sit him and develop him over 2 yrs before throwing him to the wolves. A QB trio of should be enough to make the Jets respectable for a while. Chase Daniels Geno Smith Sean Mannion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 What are everybody's thoughts on addressing the tackle spot in this draft? I'm pretty sure cutting Giacomini doesn't make sense financially and not sure he's a great fit to kick into guard at 6'7. Going offensive line tends to be a safe bet to improve a team and in theory I'm always on board with that, but this doesn't seem to be a great draft for tackles at the top and if Brick and Giacomini are locked in as the starting tackles this year I'd hate to start a rookie out at guard, move him to right tackle for a year after Giacomini gets cut (which I'd guess will happen in 2016), and then move him over to left tackle whenever Brick is done (I'm thinking he's got 2+ years left). 2 names to keep an eye on during this process as 2nd round targets for our Jets Cedric Ogbuehi. Ty Sambrailo Both are potential LT candidates who can play on the Right side until Brick leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I was tempted to leave Randy Gregory off the list and put Fowler Jr on instead, but seems everyone and their mama thinks that kid (Gregory) is the real deal. I just don't see it. Maybe I am missing something. About Mannion . I like everything about the kid as a pro prospect; He has the size at 6' 4 " & 230 He's got the arm Talent that allows him to make every NFL throw. He's played in a pro style offense taking snaps from under center He's accustomed to making checks at the LOS. His biggest negative is he throws off the wrong leg far too often, doesn't like to step into his throws the way you would like and you know exactly where he's going to be because he's not going to beat anyone in a foot race. I want to take this kid, sit him and develop him over 2 yrs before throwing him to the wolves. A QB trio of should be enough to make the Jets respectable for a while. Chase Daniels Geno Smith Sean Mannion I'm a Husker fan and I think whomever gets Gregory is going to be disappointed with the selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 2 names to keep an eye on during this process as 2nd round targets for our Jets Cedric Ogbuehi. Ty Sambrailo Both are potential LT candidates who can play on the Right side until Brick leaves. Ogbuehi popped his ACL, don't think he's going to go at the top of the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 Ogbuehi popped his ACL, don't think he's going to go at the top of the second. I know, but I also read/heard somewhere that the kid said he will be ready for camp. Both those tackles are worthy of a 2nd round pick today IMO. After the combines, when the official weights and heights come back, things might change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 I'm a Husker fan and I think whomever gets Gregory is going to be disappointed with the selection. I don't watch highlights as much as I watch the games, and when I look at Gregory, I see a player with zero strength at the POA. He will probably test well, but he can't get over an NFL OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I know, but I also read/heard somewhere that the kid said he will be ready for camp. Both those tackles are worthy of a 2nd round pick today IMO. After the combines, when the official weights and heights come back, things might change. I think even if he's going to be ready for camp, that high in the second you can usually get guys who just slipped out of the back end of the first. I know he raised some question marks with his play this year and slipped a bit and you never can tell how a guy is going to bounce back from an ACL injury. Him not being able to work out won't help matters...I'd guess he slips into the late second or early third. Guy out of Clemson last year (Brandon Thomas maybe?) was moderately less well regarded but I think more versatile and he went in the late third after an ACL injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Surprised no Fowler. Everytime I've seen him play he was a monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 We need to combine forces with teh hampur... the team is split in half here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 We need to combine forces with teh hampur... the team is split in half here. What does this mean ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 3/4 of the old JI draft crew is at the hampur. We're missing a few faces though Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Tinstar's top 4 by Position at areas of need for our Jets. QB : Marcus Marriota Jameis Winston Sean Mannion Shane Carden Pass Rusher : Shane Ray Vic Beasley Shaq Thompson Randy Gregory CB : Kevin Johnson Kevin White P J Williams Trae Waynes OT : Brandon Schreff La'el Collins Andrus Peat Cedric Ogbuehi It would be great to add Steven Nelson, CB from Oregon to your list. Dude has been the most impressive CB in my eyes and he can play inside and outside. Don't let his size fool you. He has that twitch too. Joystick-type movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 It would be great to add Steven Nelson, CB from Oregon to your list. Dude has been the most impressive CB in my eyes and he can play inside and outside. Don't let his size fool you. He has that twitch too. Joystick-type movement. The CB I want on the Jets is not even on my List. IMO, he's the best cover corner in this draft. I really like the way Bryce Callahan goes after the football > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The CB I want on the Jets is not even on my List. IMO, he's the best cover corner in this draft. I really like the way Bryce Callahan goes after the football > Never heard of him. Let me go check him out and I'll let you know what I think. There should be tape on him at draftbreakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 2 names to keep an eye on during this process as 2nd round targets for our Jets Cedric Ogbuehi. Ty Sambrailo Both are potential LT candidates who can play on the Right side until Brick leaves. i like Sambrailo I think he can fall to us in the 2nd but I belive we need to go WR with our 1st if not cooper trade back and go for Strong. and get that pic in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Mariota trying to be a drop back qb in the meadowlands is a disaster recipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 After watching the senior Bowl, I am replacing Shane Carden with Garrett Grayson . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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