Larz Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I listened to Chris Russo on XM radio today, he blasted all of them. Belli-cheat, Brady, and Kraft. He thinks the NFL needs to put the hammer down. Said he was tired of Kraft, but knows hes up Rogers ass. roger considers kraft a mentor and the man basically repsonsible for getting him hired. kraft stuck his nose way up rogers ass this year during the rice thing. roger has to decide now what is more important, his job , the league or his buddy I have to think he has heard from paul allen, the rooneys, the mara's just a sh*t ton of pissed off owners sick of the past* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Ray1 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Watching NFL access on the NFL network, probably the biggest bunch of Patriot and Belichick apologists, especially that tool Heath Evans, he is embarrassing himself with his nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 roger considers kraft a mentor and the man basically repsonsible for getting him hired. kraft stuck his nose way up rogers ass this year during the rice thing. roger has to decide now what is more important, his job , the league or his buddy I have to think he has heard from paul allen, the rooneys, the mara's just a sh*t ton of pissed off owners sick of the past* Yes, its the old boys club franchises that will be singing in Rogers ear. Maybe even a Jerry Jones, all complaining about how this sh*t is killing the SB next week and the NFL as whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Mark Brunell: "I did not believe what Tom had to say. Those balls were deflated. Somebody had to do it. I don't believe there's an equipment manager in the NFL that would, on his own initiative, deflate a ball without the starting QB's approval ... That football is our livelihood. If you don't feel good about throwing that ball? Your success on the football field can suffer from that." Jerome Bettis: "I'm so disappointed because I thought this was a perfect opportunity for Tom Brady to go and say 'You know what? I made a mistake. I blew it. It's on me. I'll take the blame here, and this will go away.' He didn't do that ... I'm disappointed in you, Tom Brady." Brian Dawkins: "This is unbelievable. For you not to know what you touch every play? ... The equipment manager is being thrown under the bus now. Now he's the guy. Now he's the one responsible. He took it upon himself to doctor up the balls when nobody else knew about it? That hard [to believe]." All of the ex coaches and talking heads on ESPN totally ignored what Mark Brunell and Jerome Bettis. Everyone acts like this some kind of joke, it isn't. Coaches have lost their careers because they couldn't defeat the Pats and they were cheating and have been cheating for years. It is sickening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 look, one ball was still properly inflated. maybe that's the ball they used. I mean, you can't assume they were playing with the ones that had a bit of leakage, can you? This is football, guys! C'mon! Whats with all the waterworks!? (Ducks and runs while being chased with poop on a stick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I watched Megyn Kelly tonight and she spoke with an ex CIA agent who watched both Press Conferences. He said they were both lying. No big shock I guess. If this stands then they should be banned from the league.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Yeah Green-Ellis fumbled 10 times in college, suddenly stops as a Patriot then immediately starts fumbling again as a Bengal. All free agents that leave NE go on to suck, Deion Branch was superbowl MVP, went to the Seahawks and turned out he was a total scrub! Just like most of these guys are without cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 All free agents that leave NE go on to suck, Deion Branch was superbowl MVP, went to the Seahawks and turned out he was a total scrub! Just like most of these guys are without cheating. Welker, Cassell etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I watched Megyn Kelly tonight and she spoke with an ex CIA agent who watched both Press Conferences. He said they were both lying. No big shock I guess. Just ask any cop same response.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Just ask any cop same response.... I'm a cop. All I saw was handsomeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm a cop. All I saw was handsomeness. You have deep seated issues my friend.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 My favorite part: Lady: Tom, are you a cheater? Brady: I don't think so... You can't make this stuff up...:shakehead: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 You have deep seated issues my friend.... Mmmmm, yeah. Say that again. Just, you know, a bit slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Guys, the Milwaukee Bucks (!!!!) just trolled that pats* LOL https://vine.co/v/OIpunwD5u7i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Guys, the Milwaukee Bucks (!!!!) just trolled that pats* LOL https://vine.co/v/OIpunwD5u7i Pats are a national joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Guys, the Milwaukee Bucks (!!!!) just trolled that pats* LOL https://vine.co/v/OIpunwD5u7i That is pretty freaking funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Watching NFL access on the NFL network, probably the biggest bunch of Patriot and Belichick apologists, especially that tool Heath Evans, he is embarrassing himself with his nonsense. Heath has always hated the Jets and always had nothing but good things to say about the Patriots. It's just the way it is. He's a shmuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The saddest thing about this is that Goodell is once again in complete cover up mode. He and Kraft actually thought that having Bellichick and Brady go all Sgt Schultz, claim they know nothing and the issue would go away. It made it worse. Not that Goodell will actually investigate it, or do anything whatsoever against the Patriots. The corruption is sickening. I used to be in awe of how awesome Brady was in rain and snow. Now we know why. I did love that 12.5 is perfect for him but he failed to notice they were 10.5. Not believable. The balls did not spontaneously deflate. The balls were lower than the complete acceptable range, so even though the weather conditions were impossible to cause the deflation, the 2 psi difference and the fact that the Indy balls were fine prove they were deflated. Intentionally. BTW NFL Network on Sirius is in complete cover up mode. Everyone especially annoying pricks like Jim Miller is doing whatever they can to ignore any facts and act like nothing happened. Miller even stated Brady gave a perfect explanation that ended the issue. WTF?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleSlugger25 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Somehow Belicheat discovered the cure for fumble-itis. And yeah, yeah, this guy is also part of the vast conspiracy against the Patriots or maybe Bellicheat realized that the more you deflate the ball the easier it is to, not only throw, but to carry without fumbling. Read the whole article for all the statistics/graphs behind the conclusions. http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/?p=2932 The New England Patriots Prevention of Fumbles is Nearly Impossible I spoke with a data scientist who I know from work on the NFLproject.com website, and sent him the data. He said: Based on the assumption that fumbles per play follow a normal distribution, you’d expect to see, according to random fluctuation, the results that the Patriots have gotten over this period, once in 16,233.77 instances”. Which in layman’s terms means that this result only being a coincidence, is like winning a raffle where you have a 0.0000616 probability to win. Which in other words, it’s very unlikely that it’s a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Deflate-Gate’ Newest Update: Ravens Tipped Colts About Deflated Balls By Patriots By Justin Gloria on January 23 2015 5:03 AM Share on facebook Share on twitter Share on linkedin Share on google_plusone_share More Sharing Services Jan 18, 2015; Foxborough, MA, USA; New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady (12) smiles after beating the Indianapolis Colts in the AFC Championship Game at Gillette Stadium. REUTERS/Greg M. Cooper-USA TODAY Sports The investigation for “Deflate-Gate”, the controversy the New England Patriots are involved in weeks before the Super Bowl, has already started and there are more details being exposed about the Patriots alleged cheating. The latest is the expose that the Baltimore Ravens had tipped off the Indianapolis Colts before the AFC championship game about the possibility that New England will be using deflated balls to their advantage. The new “Deflate-Gate” report came from FOX Sports’ NFL Insider Jay Glazer, who also said that officials from the National Football League (NFL) were already on their way to inspecting the balls at halftime. Initial reports stated that the cause of the start of the investigation was when D'Qwell Jackson intercepted Tom Brady’s pass in the first half and Jackson reported it to his own team officials, who afterwards informed the league of the possibility that something is wrong with the balls being used for the game. In a different and earlier report, the Patriots were found to have allegedly deflated 11 of 12 footballs they used in the conference championship game versus the Colts. According to many experts, a deflated football is easier to catch and throw, which means an easier time for the offence. NFL teams are allowed to use their own dozen footballs for each game so the advantage is one-sided. "There's a huge advantage to having a deflated football," former NFL quarterback Mark Brunell said in SportsCenter segment on Wednesday. "It's like a basketball — if you take a little air out of it, it's easier to palm it.” The Patriots beat the Colts, 45-7 but the controversy has put the New England franchise under the microscope again. The Patriots have a history of “cheating” in the league as in 2007, the Patriots and Bill Belichick were fined $750,000 for being found guilty of spying on the opposition by stealing their hand signals on defence. With the win over the Colts, the Patriots advanced to play the Seattle Seahawks in Super Bowl XLIX set to kick off on Feb. 1, 2015 in Glendale, Arizona. “The investigation is currently underway and we’re still awaiting findings,” NFL's executive vice president for football operations Troy Vincent said as the cheating allegations started reaching the mainstream media in the United States. The investigation is said to be concluded days before the Super Bowl begins. Email j.gloria@IBTimes.com.au to contact author of this article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Tom Brady: NFL hasn’t contacted me as part of investigation Posted by Josh Alper on January 22, 2015, 4:51 PM EST AP The NFL landscape has been dominated by the Deflategate story all week and the league has said several times that they are investigating the issue, but Patriots quarterback Tom Brady’s Thursday press conference on the issue raised some questions about the depth and scope of that investigation. Brady said that no one from the NFL has contacted him as of Thursday, four days after the league discovered the under-inflated footballs during halftime of the team’s AFC Championship game victory over the Colts. One has to wonder just what they’re investigating if the player who handles the ball on every snap and would have the most stake in the condition of the balls isn’t deemed worthy of an interview. Beyond that, one has to wonder who they have bothered talking to if Brady was considered an unimportant voice. Good thing the Mueller Report recommended the league take on a more proactive role in investigations of possible criminal behavior. The league could still interview Brady, of course, but NFL V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent told us on PFT Live Tuesday that the league planned to conclude the investigation in the next two or three days. Brady denied altering footballs and having any knowledge of what might have happened during a lengthy session with the media that’s begging to be made into the latest SNL installment celebrating the inherent humor in people saying “balls” over and over again. UPDATE 5:01 p.m. ET: When asked why the NFL hasn’t spoken to Brady, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told Bob Glauber of Newsday that “we are not commentingon the details of the review at this point.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Not if you actually understand the math: Not understanding the math is a prerequisite for getting excited about the author's conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Deflate-Gate’ Newest Update "There were no apologies and, really, no explanations. Instead, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady basically teamed up and sent the following message to the National Football League: Go ahead and prove it. Until then, we have a Super Bowl to prepare for". Obviously, the NFL has no evidence that the Pats did anything wrong. Nothing there folks, time to move on to the big game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Rule 17 Section 2 - Extraordinarily Unfair Acts COMMISSIONER AUTHORITY Article 1 The Commissioner has the sole authority to investigate and take appropriate disciplinary and/or corrective measures if any club action, non-participant interference, or calamity occurs in an NFL game which he deems so extraordinarily unfair or outside the accepted tactics encountered in professional football that such action has a major effect on the result of the game. PENALTIES FOR UNFAIR ACTS Article 3 The Commissioner’s powers include the imposition of monetary fines and draft-choice forfeitures, suspension of persons involved in unfair acts, and, if appropriate, the reversal of a game’s result or the rescheduling of a game, either from the beginning or from the point at which the extraordinary act occurred. In the event of rescheduling a game, the Commissioner will be guided by the procedures specified in Rule 17, Section 1, Articles 5 through 11, above. In all cases, the Commissioner will conduct a full investigation, including the opportunity for hearings, use of game videotape, and any other procedure he deems appropriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I have absolutely no confidence in Roger Goodell and just like Spygate he will sweep this under the rug and the Patriots will get away with cheating again. The game will continue to suffer and will lose more fans-like me. I will be boycotting this game and hope that....well I deleted what I wrote here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Article 1 The Commissioner has the sole authority to investigate and take appropriate disciplinary and/or corrective measures if any club action, non-participant interference, or calamity occurs in an NFL game which he deems so extraordinarily unfair or outside the accepted tactics Yea, I'm sure 2 pounds of PSI is considered "extraordinary unfair". If the NFL had any concrete evidence, something would have happened by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Yea, I'm sure 2 pounds of PSI is considered "extraordinary unfair". If the NFL had any concrete evidence, something would have happened by now. Speculation is that nothing will happen to the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Speculation is that nothing will happen to the Pats. They just said that on NFLN. Once again, just the media and opposing fans making a mountain out of a molehill regarding the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Rule 17 Section 2 - Extraordinarily Unfair Acts COMMISSIONER AUTHORITY Article 1 The Commissioner has the sole authority to investigate and take appropriate disciplinary and/or corrective measures if any club action, non-participant interference, or calamity occurs in an NFL game which he deems so extraordinarily unfair or outside the accepted tactics encountered in professional football that such action has a major effect on the result of the game. PENALTIES FOR UNFAIR ACTS Article 3 The Commissioner’s powers include the imposition of monetary fines and draft-choice forfeitures, suspension of persons involved in unfair acts, and, if appropriate, the reversal of a game’s result or the rescheduling of a game, either from the beginning or from the point at which the extraordinary act occurred. In the event of rescheduling a game, the Commissioner will be guided by the procedures specified in Rule 17, Section 1, Articles 5 through 11, above. In all cases, the Commissioner will conduct a full investigation, including the opportunity for hearings, use of game videotape, and any other procedure he deems appropriate Watch this video and you will see this is clearly a HUGE advantage - anyone saying otherwise after watching this clip is simply lying... http://espn.go.com/v...egoryid=5595394 that 2psi is a MASSIVE advantage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 They just said that on NFLN. Once again, just the media and opposing fans making a mountain out of a molehill regarding the Pats. The NFL network is in full fledge damage control right now. They will saying anything they can to slow this down... Unfortunately for the NFL the national media has picked up on this and most damaging is ESPN is currently allowing it's pundits to be honest - and if ESPN has turned there's a huge problem for the NFL ---- especially knowing how much ESPN is in the NFL's pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The NFL network is in full fledge damage control right now. They will saying anything they can to slow this down.... There is no way the NFL or NFLN wants this to spill over into Super Bowl week. I think something will happen by the end of business today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Odds on Bill Belichick being suspended for Patriots' cheating scandal Think the NFL will come down hard on Patriots coach Bill Belichick for his part in the latest potential cheating scandal? The sportsbooks don't. Bovada has set odds on whether Belichick will be suspended for his part in the deflated ball scandal that has overtaken any talk of the upcoming Super Bowl between the Patriots and Seahawks. It's clear they don't think it will happen for the Super Bowl ... or at all. Here are the current odds: Will Bill Belichick be suspended for at least 1 game for the Deflated Ball scandal? Yes +150 (3/2) No -200 (1/2) Will Bill Belichick be suspended for the Super Bowl for the Deflated Ball scandal? Yes +750 (15/2) No -1500 (1/15) Minus-1500 is a pretty strong statement. It means being suspended for the Super Bowl is less likely than Patriots running back LeGarrette Blount winning the Super Bowl MVP award. What the NFL does and what fans think should be done are usually two totally different things. But we're curious: What do you want them to do in this instance? Vote here. Jordan Raanan may be reached at jraanan@njadvancemedia.com. Follow him on Twitter @JordanRaanan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Arrogance demands consequences We don't know for certain yet whether Bill Belichick had anything to do with the deflation of 11 of the 12 footballs the New England Patriots used in their trouncing of the Indianapolis Colts in the AFC Championship Game. In fact, we may never know. Regardless of what the league determines, the Patriots' coach already has been declared guilty in the court of public opinion, his football brilliance superseded only by his football arrogance. Consider this tweet from Hall of Famer Jerry Rice: 11 of 12 balls under-inflated can anyone spell cheating!!! #Just Saying — Jerry Rice (@JerryRice) January 21, 2015 Rice has no skin in New England's game. He's not a former Raven or Colt, although he did play his final season in Seattle. He is a football legend with an impeccable résumé and he won't be the first or last to cast aspersions on the football team in Foxborough, Massachusetts. On the surface, knowingly tampering with footballs just minutes before (or during?) the AFC Championship Game in which your team is heavily favored seems, in the words of former Patriots safety Rodney Harrison, "laughable.'' It is also incredibly audacious, stupid and paranoid. It's almost as ludicrous as videotaping the defensive signals of opposing teams after the league sent a memo specifically forbidding the practice and warning there would be serious repercussions if the decree was ignored. Spygate, Deflategate. Connect the dots and it appears to be more of the same, a haughty coach obsessed with winning who will do anything to get an edge -- and will gleefully tweak the league office in the process. Therein lies Belichick's problem. A man who has made football his life's work, whose reverence for the game and its history is well-documented, has forever forfeited the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his own integrity. Earlier this month, 85-year-old Don Shula, the winningest coach in NFL history and the only one to oversee an undefeated season, with the Miami Dolphins in 1972, was asked about New England's coach. The congenial Shula replied: "Beli-cheat?" Bill Belichick Jim Rogash/Getty Images'Bill Belichick will never again get the benefit of the doubt in the court of public opinion. It spoke volumes about the perception of New England's resident football genius. Shula is a man of character and credibility. His words hold weight, far more than a blustery Ray Lewis embarking on a rant dismissing Tom Brady's career because of the tuck rule. That made no sense and had no merit. This deflation controversy is a different case altogether. The Colts became suspicious about the footballs and asked the referees to check them during the game. An investigation was launched, and there is tangible evidence the balls were inflated 2 pounds per square inch below what the league mandates. Obviously there are myriad unanswered questions. Were the balls properly checked by the officials before the game? Who monitored the Patriots' footballs on the sideline? When, if at all, were the balls that appeared underinflated then discarded or re-inflated? Is there any tangible evidence that someone on New England's sideline tampered with the balls? Let's dispatch one ridiculous notion: The deflated balls are not why the Patriots are playing in the Super Bowl next weekend. New England completely dismantled Indianapolis in -- as a certain coach likes to say -- every phase of the game. In a perfect football world, the Patriots would be riding high in the wake of a surge of creativity that has set them apart in recent weeks. The Brady-to-Edelman-to-Amendola touchdown, the four-offensive-linemen formation and the touchdown pass to tackle Nate Solder were all evidence that New England had rediscovered its innovative, edgy persona. Why can't the coach trust his players' talents and his own intellect and lean on the excellence of the organization he has so painstakingly built into a sustainable football juggernaut? It's like a prizefighter pummeling his opponent for six straight rounds, then feeling compelled to throw a sucker punch after the bell has sounded. Why? You had the fight won. I'll say it again: There's no concrete evidence yet that Belichick or the Patriots did anything wrong. But even the most ardent New England fan has to concede that when 11 of the 12 balls are discovered to be deflated, that's a mighty interesting coincidence. If the NFL finds the Patriots culpable (and that is still a big "if" at this point), it should lay the hammer down. If Belichick turns out to be a repeat offender in the skirting of the league rules, he should be suspended for the Super Bowl. It's not about the deflated balls. It's not about how much of an advantage (if any) it provided the Patriots or Tom Brady. It's about the integrity of the sport and the arrogance of a football coach who, if guilty, will have once again shown that he thinks he is bigger than the game. For years the Patriots have fostered an "Us Against the World" mentality, whether real or manufactured (usually it was the latter). No one was better at inventing slights to motivate his team than Harrison, who is convinced Belichick and the Patriots will utilize the furor surrounding this controversy to their advantage. "I can tell you, this is the last thing Seattle needs,'' Harrison said recently. "Those guys in that New England locker room are pumped. After all the hard work they've put in, after all they've accomplished, after all they've done, to have people doubt them? "They're taking that stuff personally. They're fired up. Add the fact Seattle was favored in the Super Bowl, and look out.'' He's right. There's nothing like controversy to band a team together and provide them with the extra resolve to prove their detractors wrong. But here's the hitch: Even if the Patriots beat the Seahawks 60-0 in Super Bowl XLIX, the win will be declared a tainted one by many. The noise will continue, and the chants of "Beli-cheat" will endure. The coach probably won't care, but it's not just his legacy that will be stained. His players also are saddled with the perception that something far more unseemly than their preparation and sacrifice were the reasons for their success. And that's the most deflating reality of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The NFL network is in full fledge damage control right now. They will saying anything they can to slow this down... Unfortunately for the NFL the national media has picked up on this and most damaging is ESPN is currently allowing it's pundits to be honest - and if ESPN has turned there's a huge problem for the NFL ---- especially knowing how much ESPN is in the NFL's pocket. Might as well rename the SuperBowl WWE SuperMania! Losing all credibiliy. Head injuries. PED's. #thebeginningoftheend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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