Maxman Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The problems at CB last year were well documented. No need to revisit that. My question is for next season. How do you want the Jets to address the position? Milliner and McDougle are coming back. Nobody knows what McDougle is, so it is hard to count on him for much. But how much should they count on Milliner? They trotted a lot of guys out there last year. Are you comfortable with anyone of them being the # 3, 4 or 5 guys? Free agency, draft, or both to bring other corners in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I'm fine with just bringing back Cromartie. Tired of the Jets massive investment in the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Milliner should be treated like a ghost heading into free agency. He doesn't exist. Same goes for Dex. Anything, any snap he gives us is a plus but we can't go into the season expecting him to be a starter and be out there an entire season. Bring in a legit #1 corner (Kareem Jackson), draft a couple of guys late and let Marcus Williams/Dee duke it out for the #2 job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I liked Marcus Williams and Philip Adams, both played pretty well at times, Wilson is not returning and I'd cut the rest. F.A may be the way the return of Cro? Basically we can't gamble we need two starting corners. So draft and F.A for me, Dee I think is done, with that Achilles injury. Dexter well we have no idea, but he was not lighting it up before he was injured. May be he breaks the 53. On a side note I don't want to see Rex's bf Dawan Landry lining up for the Jets again, he makes Zero plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 They have to get at least two FA and a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 One achilles and one ACL. Two serious injuries. You can hope one or both of them can play this year, but I think the team has to address the position with a top free agent at a minimum. McDougle hasn't been on the field an NFL snap, and Milliner showed a little something over the same stretch Geno showed a little something in 2013. Can't depend on either of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I don't think any CB ever came back from a torn achilles and played at the same level he did before tearing it, let alone playing even better or at a higher level. Leon Hall is the only CB I can think of right now (even with research) that suffered this injury, that was 2 years ago. He was absolute garbage last year. Not only is Milliner made of glass, now there's another huge questionmark, whether he can get back to who he was and how this injury will affect him in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 One achilles and one ACL. Two serious injuries. You can hope one or both of them can play this year, but I think the team has to address the position with a top free agent at a minimum. McDougle hasn't been on the field an NFL snap, and Milliner showed a little something over the same stretch Geno showed a little something in 2013. Can't depend on either of these guys. Achilles is 100 times worse than an acl. athletes are coming back as quick as 5-6 months from torn acl's nowadays (my friends 16 year old daughter being one of them lol). the torn Achilles tendon has to be rolled back down and cut straight before being reattached. a doctor friend of mine told me its like cutting the bottom of a mop and then having to reattach all those mop strings. I would be surprised if Milner is ready by opening day. does anybody know how long it took Terrel suggs to come back from his Achilles? that would be a good barometer. As for the topic, the Jets need two corners (draft one and one fa) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I'm looking to pick up two CB's in free agency. They would be players our new front office is familiar with: Cro Kareem Jackson Both we should be able to get for reasonable $$$. I'm hoping Milliner & McDougle can come back and stay on the field but I refuse to depend on it. Then in the draft I would keep my eyes open for a mid-round CB like: Steven Nelson Quentin Rollins Kevin White Nick Marshall Then in camp let them battle it out for playing time: Cro Jackson Milliner McDougle Marcus Williams Darrin Walls Draft Pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 One free agent and one mid round draft pick and the unit is solid. You can't expect much from The two coming back from injury, but of those two, Walls and Williams, you're bound to find a. #2 corner. Philip Adams was not as good as Walls or Williams, but he could stick because of injury issues. And please move Allen back to safety. He was an atrocious corner. Good effort, but terrible outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Cro was here 2 years ago, he flat out sucked. He can't stay healthy, he's getting older as well. He sucked last year for the most part, he got toasted like crazy, gave up 300+ yards and 3 TDs to Thomas. He has also made some nice plays, sometimes he's in the right spot but he's just not a good cover corner. Wildly inconsistent. I can't believe people would want him back the way he sucked as a Jet in his final year before we got rid of him and then watching him play this year, very inconsistent and in my opinion just bad overall, and on top of that he's still always banged up and he still has those hip issues. Just no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster2 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 One free agent and one mid round draft pick and the unit is solid. You can't expect much from The two coming back from injury, but of those two, Walls and Williams, you're bound to find a. #2 corner. Philip Adams was not as good as Walls or Williams, but he could stick because of injury issues. And please move Allen back to safety. He was an atrocious corner. Good effort, but terrible outcomes. Walls is terrible ,he plays 20 yards off the WR and gets burn all the time,he is a good nickel but not a starter, the Jets should use a high a high draft pick and take another corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 You have to get the best free agent CB on the market overpay if you must. The position is too important. Bowles likes to blitz more than Rex. We need cover corners. Sign one stud and hope to fill the other with one of the many, many corners we ran through last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I'd go with a combo of FA and a draft pick. Lots of FA corners this year like Cromartie, although he'll be 31 soon. I'd like to see Brandon Flowers (SD) who's 28 or Antoine Cason from the Ravens who'll be 29 at seasons start in green and white come September. I love Milliner but I think anything we get out of him next year as a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I like Flowers and Cro. Cro for a stop gap while hoping Miliner and Mc Doogle can recover and contribute and Flowers cuz he is youngish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I like Flowers and Cro. Cro for a stop gap while hoping Miliner and Mc Doogle can recover and contribute and Flowers cuz he is youngish. The thing that worries me about Flowers is that his 2013 season was awful when he was asked to play man to man as opposed to 2012 when he played zone. 2014 was a good season for him but I don't pretend to know what kind of scheme SD ran last year or what he would be expected to do in Bowles' system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Not a fan of cro but he's an upgrade plain an simple. Milliner is garbage...show him the door Mid priced free agents is the way to go. We need a better LB corps and id prefer more money spent there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Tell me what scheme the Jets plan to run and I will have a better Idea of who I want as the CBs on this team. If we could somehow get the Hunny Badger to play FS for us next yr, our secondary would be improved without any further additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 One free agent and one mid round draft pick and the unit is solid. You can't expect much from The two coming back from injury, but of those two, Walls and Williams, you're bound to find a. #2 corner. Philip Adams was not as good as Walls or Williams, but he could stick because of injury issues. And please move Allen back to safety. He was an atrocious corner. Good effort, but terrible outcomes. Agree, Allen back to safety, Pryor spends time with Bowles (moves to SS), resign Jarrett to a reasonable deal and/or bring in a FS to replace Landry and the safety position is ok CB is a mess, Williams earned a chance to come back, Walls played better than Adams and Wilson but they can fight it out in camp for a spot, hope for Dee and Dex to fill another spot between them for a total of 3 CB's on the active roster with no #1 in sight... Jets may need to bring 4 new CB's to camp (draft and FA) to make sure they have 5-6 on the active roster plus 1-2 on the PS The injury risk is huge so I think the Jets should go into camp with a bunch of CB's ready for injury, competition and cuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Agreed you NEVER have enough CB's. Remember when the Cheaters had to use Troy Brown at CB ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Achilles is 100 times worse than an acl. athletes are coming back as quick as 5-6 months from torn acl's nowadays (my friends 16 year old daughter being one of them lol). the torn Achilles tendon has to be rolled back down and cut straight before being reattached. a doctor friend of mine told me its like cutting the bottom of a mop and then having to reattach all those mop strings. I would be surprised if Milner is ready by opening day. does anybody know how long it took Terrel suggs to come back from his Achilles? that would be a good barometer. As for the topic, the Jets need two corners (draft one and one fa) I understand the difference between the two injuries, at least in layman's terms, but an ACL is still serious business. Revis still isn't back to his old self, and it took him a $16M year in Tampa to get back up to speed. Consider that we're talking about a third round CB who's never played in the league coming off the injury, I'd still consider it to be a significant factor. I can't name any players off the top of my head who missed their entire rookie year and came back to have a strong career. Considering that Wilson is more than likely to also be gone, a couple free agents might be in order. Jets have a lot of cap space, but just six picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Walls is terrible ,he plays 20 yards off the WR and gets burn all the time,he is a good nickel but not a starter, the Jets should use a high a high draft pick and take another corner However close or far off he played is on Rex and the defensive coaching. He's more than capable of being a nickel CB. Asking him to be a #1 CB is on Idzik. Those guys are gone. We'll see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I'm really interested to see what Bowles does with the three young safeties on the roster (Pryor, Allen & Jarrett). Because in ARZ he used safeties to be his playmakers in some of the schemes he ran. I hope Allen can be saved from all the crap he had to deal with last year. Because before Ryan benched him for Ed Reed in 2013 he was really showing promise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOZ THE JET Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 the sleeper 2015 free agent cornerback is Buster Skrine from the Cleveland Browns i know you guys think im nuts but the kid is great in man coverage & would cost half of what some of the others would demand on the open market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Go hard on UFAs Milliner is a bust a la Geno Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Kyle wilson, Milliner, McDougle, 2 number ones and a 2, plus another number 1 in Prior. We should have a pro bowl type secondary with those investments instead we have the worst secondary in the league. No wonder we sucked last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 the sleeper 2015 free agent cornerback is Buster Skrine from the Cleveland Browns i know you guys think im nuts but the kid is great in man coverage & would cost half of what some of the others would demand on the open market. not crazy at all, Buster out played their top pick last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOZ THE JET Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 not crazy at all, Buster out played their top pick last year I agree I hear a lot of names tossed around but nobody mention him once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The problems at CB last year were well documented. No need to revisit that. My question is for next season. How do you want the Jets to address the position? Milliner and McDougle are coming back. Nobody knows what McDougle is, so it is hard to count on him for much. But how much should they count on Milliner? They trotted a lot of guys out there last year. Are you comfortable with anyone of them being the # 3, 4 or 5 guys? Free agency, draft, or both to bring other corners in? Not sure about the draft yet, but we already have a couple of young guys. We need two rock solid veterans. I like Kareem Jackson and Perrish Cox. I think they can play the 1& 2 spot, I'm totally consigning on bringing back Cro, but I'd like to see him in the slot at this point of his career. Cro could handle Gronk one on one. Milliner and McDougle can only be looked at as extra depth at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Dee Milliner and Dexter McDougle do not exist. That's how you play this off-season. That's how you should have played last off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I will be very disappointed if we continue to draft these high upside fragile players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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