AFJF Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Kristian Dyer of metro is reporting that a league source has confirmed the New York Jets will indeed "go hard" after former Buffalo Bills running back CJ Spiller who is due to become a free agent next month. JetNation.com recently discussed Spiller and the possibility of him following former head coach Chan Gailey, the Jets new offensive coordinator, to New York with Howard Simon of WGR 550 in Buffalo who saw Spiller and the Jets as a logical move. As Dyer and Simon point out, Spiller's most productive time as a pro came with Gailey at the helm in Buffalo in 2012 when Spiller registered 1,244 yards rushing and six touchdowns. Follow Kristian Dyer on twitter @KristianDyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Rightfully so. The guy knows Gailey's system and (when healthy) is a gamebreaking runningback. Chris Ivory is a great runningback who doesn't nearly get the props he deserves due to the lack of recent success for the Jets. Spiller will fit in perfect as the change of pace back behind Ivory. I'm all for this signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Hell the knock on Chris Ivory when we trade for him was that he couldn't stay healthy and he's been pretty healthy with us, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I don't like it. Spiller is way more talent than production. Always hurt, too much unnecessary lateral movement (dancing), and will cut into too many carries that should belong to Chris Ivory. Ivory is an explosive, battering ram with an attitude. Draft a part-time 3rd down back in the middle rounds and pay him peanuts. Something they should have done the last few years. Do not overpay for a tease like Spiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I don't like it. Spiller is way more talent than production. Always hurt, too much unnecessary lateral movement (dancing), and will cut into too many carries that should belong to Chris Ivory. Draft a part-time 3rd down back in the middle rounds and pay him peanuts. Something they should have done the last few years. Do not overpay for a tease like Spiller. In the past few days from reading posts on here I've come around to this side of the argument. Well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I don't like it. Spiller is way more talent than production. Always hurt, too much unnecessary lateral movement (dancing), and will cut into too many carries that should belong to Chris Ivory. Ivory is an explosive, battering ram with an attitude. Draft a part-time 3rd down back in the middle rounds and pay him peanuts. Something they should have done the last few years. Do not overpay for a tease like Spiller. You obviously missed the 150 articles about Spiller's success in Gailey's offense. He will come cheap, and signing him doesn't prohibit the jets from drafting a Rb in the middle rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 In the past few days from reading posts on here I've come around to this side of the argument. Well put. Thank you. Nice to know there are some that can view things logically and disregard the "STB" mentality. Not to say everyone that wants Spiller is an STB Madden sheep... but alot of 'em are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 he'll be 28 by the time the season starts next year. anything more than a 2 year deal would be a bad move. But if he still has his explosiveness why wouldn't we want him? Not everyone is going to superstar. If you can afford the talent and the OC likes him and wants him - then you should absolutely go after him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 You obviously missed the 150 articles about Spiller's success in Gailey's offense. He will come cheap, and signing him doesn't prohibit the jets from drafting a Rb in the middle rounds Ugh no. I didn't. Fully aware he had his career year with Gailey. He does not pass my eyeball test. Plenty of RBs have had one really good season. Or a season and a half. It is the whole picture that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Chris Ivory is a much better player than Spiller based on what I see. He runs angry. Spiller runs like a track athlete that doesnt like contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Chris Ivory is a much better player than Spiller based on what I see. He runs angry. Spiller runs like a track athlete that doesnt like contact. That's why they are a tandem back system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 That's why they are a tandem back system. Better to draft the other half of the tandem you seek. Cheaper, fresher, and hungrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsHex Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I'll be ok with this signing. He should be a large improvement from CJ. There are 2 RB spots open on this team. I'm a firm believer of filling teams' needs with FA vets rather than counting on rookies to pan out from the get go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementi49 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I think the combo will be very nice. Actual Explosive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Better to draft the other half of the tandem you seek. Cheaper, fresher, and hungrier. I'll be ok with this signing. He should be a large improvement from CJ. There are 2 RB spots open on this team. I'm a firm believer of filling teams' needs with FA vets rather than counting on rookies to pan out from the get go. Exactly. You can do both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Exactly. You can do both. I hear you. My fear is that we watch another year where Ivory gets more than 12 carries in a game only twice. That was criminal. Spiller is not good enough to warrant stealing half the carries from Ivory. Ivory will murder defenses if he is getting his 25th carry in the 4th quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I'm not a big fan of this potential move. In my opinion, going after a 28 year old running back with durability issues is a poor way to rebuild a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 As long as they still draft Ameer Abdullah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 You obviously missed the 150 articles about Spiller's success in Gailey's offense. He will come cheap, and signing him doesn't prohibit the jets from drafting a Rb in the middle rounds Spiller played in 61 of 64 games his first 4 years. Last year someone broke his collarbone. Hardly injury prone to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 "go hard" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Could be a nice match Spiller speed and Ivory tough running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Spiller played in 61 of 64 games his first 4 years. Last year someone broke his collarbone. Hardly injury prone to date. How many of those games was he totally ineffective due to a high ankle sprain, hip injury, bruised rib, turf toe, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 2010 hamstring weeks 11 & 12 2012 played with a bad shoulder most of the season 2013 ankle kept him out or limited for 6 weeks 2014 broken collar bone IR But the real problem is that he wasn't terribly productive when he was healthy. Do Not Want Spiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Hell the knock on Chris Ivory when we trade for him was that he couldn't stay healthy and he's been pretty healthy with us, And that he couldn't catch. Meet Spiller, the faster and catching version of Ivory. Totally down for this move and hope to retain Bilal Powell, as one of these folks are likely to get injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 2010 hamstring weeks 11 & 12 2012 played with a bad shoulder most of the season 2013 ankle kept him out or limited for 6 weeks 2014 broken collar bone IR But the real problem is that he wasn't terribly productive when he was healthy. Do Not Want Spiller Terribly productive? He split the load with Fred Jackson and has averaged 5 ypc over his career. But I guess his partial year, 78 carries are a bigger sample than his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 2010 hamstring weeks 11 & 12 2012 played with a bad shoulder most of the season 2013 ankle kept him out or limited for 6 weeks 2014 broken collar bone IR But the real problem is that he wasn't terribly productive when he was healthy. Do Not Want Spiller In 2012, CJ Spiller was among the top playmakers in the ENTIRE NFL with almost 1800 total yards, 8 TD's. and 43 receptions. When given 200 Touches he has never averaged under 4.6 YPC. People ask what happened to him? Doug Marrone is what happened. He had no idea how to use him - its the reason Marrone will never be a Headcoach again. CJ Spiller reuniting with Chan Gailey would be the best move of this offseason. Especially as he wont be expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 His age is the concern, but for the right price....sure I'd prefer to draft a Le'veon Bell in round 2, young stud but frankly this team has soooooo many holes that we need to fill as many as we can in free agency. And frankly if Todd Gurley is sitting there in the 2nd round I don't think Mac would hesitate to draft him even if he signed Spiller. I don't see Spiller having a big market, he knows the system and has some game breaking ability. I wouldn't be doing cartwheels but I think it's a low risk option to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Better to draft the other half of the tandem you seek. Cheaper, fresher, and hungrier. don't pay the running backs. find them later in the draft. draft them. work them. let them walk. rinse/repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Ivory + Spiller would be beast, no complaining here if they land him. Shouldn't cost much since the whole second contract RB thing isn't some fan only secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I hear you. My fear is that we watch another year where Ivory gets more than 12 carries in a game only twice. That was criminal. Spiller is not good enough to warrant stealing half the carries from Ivory. Ivory will murder defenses if he is getting his 25th carry in the 4th quarter. Maybe that's why he stayed healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 The RB position has been totally devalued so Spiller isn't going to get/command big $$$. We could probably get him for what we paid Chris Johnson. And if we do sign him there is no reason we still couldn't draft a RB in the middle rounds. I believe Ivory has one year left on his deal and Spiller would only have two years so a young RB would fit in our plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 As long as the contract makes sense, meaning limited guaranteed money, it can't hurt Agreed...I don't see him commanding huge money. Could be the playmaker we'd hoped CJ would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 "go hard" My thoughts exactly. Is there going to be a bidding war for Spiller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I don't like it. Spiller is way more talent than production. Always hurt, too much unnecessary lateral movement (dancing), and will cut into too many carries that should belong to Chris Ivory. Ivory is an explosive, battering ram with an attitude. Draft a part-time 3rd down back in the middle rounds and pay him peanuts. Something they should have done the last few years. Do not overpay for a tease like Spiller. The "hurt way too much" argument is overplayed. Every player can get hurt, it's football. The player we draft can get hurt, it's the NFL, these players coming in need to adjust to the physicality of the NFL game, there is no guarantee with any rookie over a young talent already in the league like Spiller who has already produced at a high level for the offensive coach we hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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