JetsRay Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 The RB position has been totally devalued so Spiller isn't going to get/command big $$$. We could probably get him for what we paid Chris Johnson. And if we do sign him there is no reason we still couldn't draft a RB in the middle rounds. I believe Ivory has one year left on his deal and Spiller would only have two years so a young RB would fit in our plans Agree with this, well put. With Chris Johnson gone, Powell is also a FA, I'd rather pluck from the talent pool in the middle rounds on a player with more speed. We also still have Daryl Richardson that we re-signed from the PS who is an explosive player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Better to draft the other half of the tandem you seek. Cheaper, fresher, and hungrier. Powell is a FA too.. so signing spiller doesn't stop us from drafting abother half back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 So he averaged 78 yards a game 3 years ago, gets injured often, and loses starting role every year to fred jackson. Why are we even considering this? Just draft a guy or resign Powell. Powell is better than Spiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Even if they sign Spiller they have to get another back. I do not think they are bringing Powell back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 So he averaged 78 yards a game 3 years ago, gets injured often, and loses starting role every year to fred jackson. Why are we even considering this? Just draft a guy or resign Powell. Powell is better than Spiller. He was good in fantasy 4 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Even if they sign Spiller they have to get another back. I do not think they are bringing Powell back. They're a dime a dozen. Either draft Tyler Vargas in the 7th round or get some guy off the street during the season. Draft Sherff and create a top 5 OL anyone can run behind that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Do you guys realize that since 2000, when Woody took over the Jets they have only drafted 8 RBs (not including FB's) and none higher than Lamont Jordan in a different era. The game has truly changed in the past 15 years. 2001 Lamont Jordan in the 2nd round @ pick #49 2004 Derrick Ward one of 4 7th round picks from that year @ # 235 2005 Cedric Houston in the 6th Rd @ #182 2006 Leon Washington in the 4th @ #117 2009 Shonn Greene in the 3rd Rd @ # 65 2010 Joe McKnight in the 4th @ #112 2011 Bilal Powell in the 4th @ #126 2012 Terrance Ganaway 6th Rd # 202 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 They're a dime a dozen. Either draft Tyler Vargas in the 7th round or get some guy off the street during the season. Draft Sherff and create a top 5 OL anyone can run behind that Right. Just get a young healthy back in here because Ivory has issues too. Be curious to see if they would draft Scherf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I guess some people don't understand what a spread offense is, Ivory is not getting 20 carries a game no matter who we sign or draft. The ground and pound is gone. The Jets need a RB who can take a swing pass to the house, someone to catch 40 passes. Ivory is not the back to be catching the ball. He will be used in the 4th quarter if we have a big lead. Go back and look at the offense Chan ran in Buffalo, there is a huge need for a fast, shifty RB that can catch. Appears Spiller is the best one available. I am open to a better choice, I just dont know who that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Do you guys realize that since 2000, when Woody took over the Jets they have only drafted 8 RBs (not including FB's) and none higher than Lamont Jordan in a different era. The game has truly changed in the past 15 years. 2001 Lamont Jordan in the 2nd round @ pick #49 2004 Derrick Ward one of 4 7th round picks from that year @ # 235 2005 Cedric Houston in the 6th Rd @ #182 2006 Leon Washington in the 4th @ #117 2009 Shonn Greene in the 3rd Rd @ # 65 2010 Joe McKnight in the 4th @ #112 2011 Bilal Powell in the 4th @ #126 2012 Terrance Ganaway 6th Rd # 202 To be fair, they had Curtis who they gave up a 1st and 3rd and plenty of money for when this period started. They gave up a 4th and new deal for Ivory, a 4th for Kevan Barlow and swapped 2nds (value at top of 3rd) and gave a big deal to Thomas Jones. They also signed Tomlinson and Johnson to fairly significant deals. The Jets pathetic attempts at using the plug-and-play-a-low-round-RB theory have resulted in them spending way too much in trades and FA money IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 You really have to hand it to the fat ****. Blowing your anonymity with a two-word blind quote takes some doing. Somebody wake me when everybody catches up and this takes its rightful place as one of the lolrex threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Hey Dom didn't Curtis get here BEFORE Woody took over and the team was still owned by Leon Hess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 You obviously missed the 150 articles about Spiller's success in Gailey's offense. He will come cheap, and signing him doesn't prohibit the jets from drafting a Rb in the middle rounds That's it. Its all about how much? If its reasonable, you sign Spiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Phenomenal ... lets make sure we spend a lot of time and dough on one of the only positions that we have acceptable talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 The RB position has been totally devalued so Spiller isn't going to get/command big $$$. We could probably get him for what we paid Chris Johnson. And if we do sign him there is no reason we still couldn't draft a RB in the middle rounds. I believe Ivory has one year left on his deal and Spiller would only have two years so a young RB would fit in our plans Exactly, plus we need someone who can catch the ball out of the backfield , Spiller fits that to a T . The same guys who want to purge Harvin also don't want Spiller. Why are we afraid of dynamic offensive talent. Has Rex really brainwashed that many of our fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Exactly, plus we need someone who can catch the ball out of the backfield , Spiller fits that to a T . The same guys who want to purge Harvin also don't want Spiller. Why are we afraid of dynamic offensive talent. Has Rex really brainwashed that many of our fans. Uh yes, haven't you noticed the zombie-eyed drones walking around the streets of Manhattan muttering "let me smell yo feetsies"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Phenomenal ... lets make sure we spend a lot of time and dough on one of the only positions that we have acceptable talent. While I'm not a huge fan of Spiller, the Jets do have a need at the position. Chris Johnson was released, and Bilal Powell is a free agent. The only viable running back currently under contract is Chris Ivory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Phenomenal ... lets make sure we spend a lot of time and dough on one of the only positions that we have acceptable talent. We have Chris Ivory and Daryl Richardson under contract in 2015. That's it. Rbs don't make dick in FA. spiller will get a $3-4m per year deal. Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 While I'm not a huge fan of Spiller, the Jets do have a need at the position. Chris Johnson was released, and Bilal Powell is a free agent. The only viable running back currently under contract is Chris Ivory. I knew Johnson was released but didn't know Powell was an FA. Thought he was going to get a chance to pound out some yards with Johnson gone and still may if we re-sign him. Hope we do as he's a great kid and I think a very capable #2. Ivory hasn't shown us he's injury prone and I don't think he got the carries he would/should have with Johnson being paid what he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Can we just assume that everyone's opinion includes the caveat "if we don't overpay?" The words themselves are meaningless without an attribution of value. It is easy to say "we shouldn't overpay" when you don't make any effort to determine or provide an approximation of what fair value is. So if you don't provide your idea of a "fair" contract, spare us the superfluous addendum. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Phenomenal ... lets make sure we spend a lot of time and dough on one of the only positions that we have acceptable talent. Time? Dough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 We have Chris Ivory and Daryl Richardson under contract in 2015. That's it. Rbs don't make dick in FA. spiller will get a $3-4m per year deal. Anything else? AAAAAAHHHHHHHH we just used 5.3% of our available cap money on a running back!!! Ohhhh Goddddd! I can't take it anymore with this team!!! I die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Can we just assume that everyone's opinion includes the caveat "if we don't overpay?" The words themselves are meaningless without an attribution of value. It is easy to say "we shouldn't overpay" when you don't make any effort to determine or provide an approximation of what fair value is. So if you don't provide your idea of a "fair" contract, spare us the superfluous addendum. Thanks. Not me. I do not want Spiller or Harvin. Period. Though for different reasons. Price is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Not me. I do not want Spiller or Harvin. Period. Though for different reasons. Price is irrelevant. Yes , let's go status quo on offense and then complain that it sucks , the QB sucks, the OC sucks - but man oh man look at that D. We need playmakers in the worst way , couldn't care less if their headcases that's where coaching comes in. We don't have country club Rex anymore and his ignoring the O to pump up the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Phenomenal ... lets make sure we spend a lot of time and dough on one of the only positions that we have acceptable talent. The only RB on the roster thats under contract I think is Ivory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Yes , let's go status quo on offense and then complain that it sucks , the QB sucks, the OC sucks - but man oh man look at that D. We need playmakers in the worst way , couldn't care less if their headcases that's where coaching comes in. We don't have country club Rex anymore and his ignoring the O to pump up the D.I would sign a quality guard, would love Bulaga at RT but Idziot committed to Breno. I would look at Cobb and Maclin, price dependent. Both GOOD guys, tough, smart and resilient. Charles Clay or Virgil Green at TE even though Denver won't let Green go. Maybe Shane Vereen, cheaper... he won't tempt OC to steal too many carries from Ivory and would love to stick it to the Cheatriots for letting him walk. Still status quo, right? Not Spiller. And a hell no to Harvin! On defense? The realistic wants are Worilds and Devin McCourty. Unfortunately, a lousy year for CB help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Bills and Spiller negotiating. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2015/02/19/jerry-hughes-bills-cj-spiller-doug-whaley-nfl-buffalo/23700597/ Spiller, who really hasn't made the type of impact that was expected when he was Buffalo's first-round pick in 2010, was thought to be as good as gone and in search of a fresh start. However, he may think he can get that with the Bills in offensive coordinator Greg Roman's run-heavy scheme. Whaley said the Bills are meeting with Spiller's agents in Indianapolis and, "We hope we can close the gap and get the deal done. There's going to be some work that has to be done, but I have confidence that we'll each come to the table with an open mind and we'll try to get a deal done that's great for both sides." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I hope Buffalo signs him so he can continue to underperform for someone else rather than the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I would sign a quality guard, would love Bulaga at RT but Idziot committed to Breno. I would look at Cobb and Maclin, price dependent. Both GOOD guys, tough, smart and resilient. Charles Clay or Virgil Green at TE even though Denver won't let Green go. Maybe Shane Vereen, cheaper... he won't tempt OC to steal too many carries from Ivory and would love to stick it to the Cheatriots for letting him walk. Still status quo, right? Not Spiller. And a hell no to Harvin! On defense? The realistic wants are Worilds and Devin McCourty. Unfortunately, a lousy year for CB help. Sorry , just tired of the Jets ignoring offense for over a decade now. I like Bulaga but would prefer Iupati. At wr I really don't see either Maclin or Cobb comitting to the Jets with our QB situation. This is why i'm pushing Harvin, he's already under contract. Keep Harvin and draft a wr in the 3rd/4th - someone like Rashard Greene, Tony Lippett, Nelson Agholor, Ty Montgomery there's a lot of quality recievers in this years draft class. A sleeper I'd keep my eye out for in later rounds is Dezmin Lewis from Cent Ark. We also may pick up a 2nd tier FA wr someone like a Meacham , Britt or Royal. At TE I would love Clay but would keep my eye on the Gresham and Cameron situations as both may not be resigned by their teams. At RB I want Spiller because he'd come fairly cheaply and has a good history with Chan, Vereen fills the same role essentially but probably comes at a steeper price tag. Defense - CB & LB are needs. For LB I would go one of , maybe two Brandon Graham, Sam Acho, Brooks Reed , Pernell McPhee . At CB - Cro, Kareem Jackson, Buster Skrine , Davon House , Chris Culliver would all be on my wish list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Why he blows...he was always supposed to be good but never was. I do not understand why the Jets continue to sing crap. Just use a 2nd rounder and get young stud with upside..god I hate/love the jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Bills and Spiller negotiating. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2015/02/19/jerry-hughes-bills-cj-spiller-doug-whaley-nfl-buffalo/23700597/ Spiller, who really hasn't made the type of impact that was expected when he was Buffalo's first-round pick in 2010, was thought to be as good as gone and in search of a fresh start. However, he may think he can get that with the Bills in offensive coordinator Greg Roman's run-heavy scheme. Whaley said the Bills are meeting with Spiller's agents in Indianapolis and, "We hope we can close the gap and get the deal done. There's going to be some work that has to be done, but I have confidence that we'll each come to the table with an open mind and we'll try to get a deal done that's great for both sides." Wonder what Spiller is seeking for there to be a gap between the two sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 between CJ Spiller and Percy Harvin you might get 16 awesome games. if the Jets try to replace one with the other it will be treading water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I'm good with Spiller, but this draft is loaded with RB's. Can't we get one that doesn't break that easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 If this is true this sucks for jet fans, a new GM and a whole new staff and someone is already talking plans to the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Wonder what Spiller is seeking for there to be a gap between the two sides. Collarbone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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