Joe Jets fan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yet he will beat Matt Moore, Matt hassle beck Matt Leinart and all these other clowns who are so much better than him. K Mrs Smith, what ever you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Bowles coached the Fins at the end of 2011. Matt Moore was the qb then and he went 2 and 1. I think Moore would be a great addition and would help stabilize the qb situation until we can find one. He is 30 so two or three years. It will allow for us to draft a qb and develop. I'd be excited. I think with a few other moves our offense would be average and we would be in most games and fun to watch. Hopefully this happens. lol. This is just new low's man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Give Geno Smith an improved OL along with a #1 WR improve the running game and we make the playoffs I keep seeing improved OL from posters as an excuse for Geno. Honestly besides penalties (looking at you Colon) Geno Smith was like in the top 5 of QBs all year who had THE MOST time to throw a pass. Geno takes sacks because Geno can't read defenses and holds the ball too long. He literally can't process the information in front of him fast enough at the NFL level. This isn't 2 years ago where there was no weapons. We had weapons on offense this year and they actually worked even if we weren't at 100% the whole year. (What NFL team really ever is). The problem solely lies in Geno's Head and hands. He is careless with protecting the ball and too slow to process info at the NFL level imo. I'm fine with keeping him and developing him as with time he may get better and be a serviceable backup in this league but we need to find someone else under center this year and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I keep seeing improved OL from posters as an excuse for Geno. Honestly besides penalties (looking at you Colon) Geno Smith was like in the top 5 of QBs all year who had THE MOST time to throw a pass. Geno takes sacks because Geno can't read defenses and holds the ball too long. He literally can't process the information in front of him fast enough at the NFL level. This isn't 2 years ago where there was no weapons. We had weapons on offense this year and they actually worked even if we weren't at 100% the whole year. (What NFL team really ever is). The problem solely lies in Geno's Head and hands. He is careless with protecting the ball and too slow to process info at the NFL level imo. I'm fine with keeping him and developing him as with time he may get better and be a serviceable backup in this league but we need to find someone else under center this year and beyond. Fair enough but what about our WRs the Jets lack a true #1 WR go to guy playmaker Decker isn't a #1 our WRs also the last few years ran very poor routes MM was a terrible OC which didn't help Geno either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Matt Moore fixes nothing here he's a below average QB When he played 13 games for the Fins in 2011 he had 16 tds and 9 picks that may be below avg but for a Jet QB its a good year..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Matt Moore is better then all of you think. If he qbs this team, we win 10 games and get a wc spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I think the idea is to have a higher floor. Geno has been wildly inconsistent. With a sort of steady squid type guy like Moore, Fitzpatrick, McCown or Hoyer you can get a better idea of where your team is at. Geno was so bad some games that if the other 21 guys had career days you still couldn't win. I can almost see that if it wasn't for the fact you are going to have to pay at least 4x what Geno makes to get a guy with less upside that might guaranty you merely mediocre QB play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Because Geno has been literally the worst starting QB in the NFL for the past two years This, Jets have had a bottom 6 QBR for the last 4 years, average and old is sadly an improvement 2014 29th Smith 2013 28th Smith 2012 32nd Sanchez 2011 26th Sanchez (Moore was 17th) 2010 17th Sanchez AFCCG 2009 23rd Sanchez AFCCG 2008 23rd Favre 2007 22nd Penny 2006 9th Penny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxman Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'd take him over Geno, but we can and should do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I think Fitzpatrick is the best bet QB available. Last I checked he isn't available. However if that changes, then I will agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Last I checked he isn't available. However if that changes, then I will agree with you. For some reason I thought he was a FA. You guys are right though he signed a 2 year deal with Houston, I thought it was 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Fair enough but what about our WRs the Jets lack a true #1 WR go to guy playmaker Decker isn't a #1 our WRs also the last few years ran very poor routes MM was a terrible OC which didn't help Geno either Our WR play actually isn't as bad as it was (at the end of Sanchez era) I would actually argure that MM actually brought a competent offense to the Jets. (WR actually do get open in his system) But Geno just doesn't find them in time. NFL Breakdowns has pretty much exposed Geno Smith for the reasons I noted previously. I'm higher on Decker than a lot of other people might be. He isn't an "elite" #1 WR where everything is carried on his back but he is a competent starting WR (who also played with a nagging hammy and had Geno Smith throwing to him) I think we are literally only 1 competent WR away from having a dangerous receiving corps. A great example of knowing your offense is limited by your QB. Look at the first 3 games of the last 2 years. Look at how aggressive the offense is and how easily we move the ball down the field. But then your young QB starts to get exposed, makes a ton of really stupid mistakes that cost you the game and that aggressive offense you have a tendency to run has to be sheltered and you start to second guess and try to accommodate your offense around limitations. I don't know the politics that went on with the Jets but MM does not ground and pound. Rex Ryan grounds and pounds. The fact that we progressively get more conservative as each season goes on, for me shows you are limited to what you can work with and if we have a QB that can't be trusted to make decisions quick enough and makes your offense one dimensional, we need to move on. I would be fine with a Matt Moore or McCown vet on the team, not necessarily starting but you need a vet presence I think. But I think you have to keep drafting a QB until you hit on one. The biggest change I want to see from this organization is the ability to cut ties and move on. We have a terrible reputation of hanging on to "developmental" players long past their expiration date. If the kid can't make decisions fast enough we need to acknowledge that and move in a different direction as quickly as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 For some reason I thought he was a FA. You guys are right though he signed a 2 year deal with Houston, I thought it was 1. He may very well be released at some point. If so, the Jets should bring him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 For some reason I thought he was a FA. You guys are right though he signed a 2 year deal with Houston, I thought it was 1. Mallet is a FA and a bunch of people expect them to sign Mallet and cut Fitzpatrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Mallet is a FA and a bunch of people expect them to sign Mallet and cut Fitzpatrick. Houston will keep Fitz as insurance. Why put all your eggs in the Mallett basket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 If Bowles can win 2 out of every 3 games here, We will all be pretty happy. Yeah but the problem is this isn't 2011 and Matt Moore stinks We win 2 out of 3 with Quincy carter why not sign him too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Houston will keep Fitz as insurance. Why put all your eggs in the Mallett basket But Tampa will guaranteed trade Glennon for less than they demanded last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 But Tampa will guaranteed trade Glennon for less than they demanded last year. I think jameis Winston is just a tiny bit better than the scrub crackhead mallett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I think jameis Winston is just a tiny bit better than the scrub crackhead mallet So Tampa goes all in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Matt Moore was on the brink of being the top FA QB in 2013, and rather than test that market, he opted to remain the Dolphins backup for $4M/year. I don't expect him to be in play, and question how badly he "wants it," if he's so willing to settle for a backup job like that in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I may be wrong, but I get the impression that Matt Moore doesn't want to start. That he is a confirmed Clipboard Man. That he can put in 10 years at a million or two a year, and not have to think about a future filled with chronic arthritis, post concussion syndrome, or shredded elbow and knee ligaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Matt Moore was on the brink of being the top FA QB in 2013, and rather than test that market, he opted to remain the Dolphins backup for $4M/year. I don't expect him to be in play, and question how badly he "wants it," if he's so willing to settle for a backup job like that in the first place. I may be wrong, but I get the impression that Matt Moore doesn't want to start. That he is a confirmed Clipboard Man. That he can put in 10 years at a million or two a year, and not have to think about a future filled with chronic arthritis, post concussion syndrome, or shredded elbow and knee ligaments. I read this a bunch, but Tannehill was not a slam dunk at that point. He seems to be turning out, but staying in a place where they know you and offer up $4M per is a little different than running off to backup Aaron Rodgers. Tannehill was 8 overall, but Moore probably had as a good a chance of starting there as anywhere. I don't think any team was going to offer him up a starting job. He was going to be competing with failing high picks with teams like the Jets and Vikings. Going into 2013 Ponder was probably as highly thought of as Tannehill and everybody knew the Jets were likely to go QB in the draft. Going to one of those teams that was probably going QB in the draft is no surer thing than Miami where he was comfortable and not paying income tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Matt Moore was on the brink of being the top FA QB in 2013, and rather than test that market, he opted to remain the Dolphins backup for $4M/year. I don't expect him to be in play, and question how badly he "wants it," if he's so willing to settle for a backup job like that in the first place. Would you be opposed to bringing in two veteran QB's, including Moore as our backup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Would you be opposed to bringing in two veteran QB's, including Moore as our backup? I'm not opposed to Moore, I just don't see him moving. I'd prefer one vet and one draft pick, with the vet being legitimate competition for Geno this season (which Moore would be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Matt Moore fixes nothing here he's a below average QB Agreed, I live in South Florida and have watched Matt Moore play and he is being way overrated. There is a reason he resigned with the Dolphins as a backup last time he was a FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Mallet is a FA and a bunch of people expect them to sign Mallet and cut Fitzpatrick. I would rather have Fitzpatrick over Geno since he is familiar with Chans offense and did pretty well running it. If Bowles can get the D squared away we should at least be competitive on both sides of the ball. I don't trust Geno at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Yeah but the problem is this isn't 2011 and Matt Moore stinks We win 2 out of 3 with Quincy carter why not sign him too? If he can win 2 of 3, I don't care if he signs Satan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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