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So Powell can take a swing pass 80 yeards? He can catch In space?

If not the Jets don't need him. Spread offense.

Yes he can. Probably better than spiller or bush at this point. They both suck and Powell is young and had a great season when he was used. He had a few long plays catching the ball. He's able to make guys miss in open field too. 

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The Lions are getting rid of him because Bell is much better than him and Theo Riddick is a younger, cheaper, better Reggie Bush at this point. He's almost strictly a pass catching back now, and those can be had much younger and healthier than what Reggie is now.

Bush is a better receiver out of the backfield than Spiller.

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Yes he can. Probably better than spiller or bush at this point. They both suck and Powell is young and had a great season when he was used. He had a few long plays catching the ball. He's able to make guys miss in open field too. 

 

Bilal Powell has never had so much as a 40 yard play in the NFL.  His career longest reception is 36. Spiller had a 53 yard run last year and a 77 yarder the year before.  Bush may be washed up, but he had a 77 yard reception in 2013.  Powell certainly has never had a great season.  In fact, he has had a single great game and it was in 2013.  He has been good and solid, but he is not a gamebreaker.  You may not want a boom or bust guy, but the idea that Powell on his 2nd contract is going to suddenly start ripping off 50 yard plays is a joke.

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Bilal Powell has never had so much as a 40 yard play in the NFL.  His career longest reception is 36. Spiller had a 53 yard run last year and a 77 yarder the year before.  Bush may be washed up, but he had a 77 yard reception in 2013.  Powell certainly has never had a great season.  In fact, he has had a single great game and it was in 2013.  He has been good and solid, but he is not a gamebreaker.  You may not want a boom or bust guy, but the idea that Powell on his 2nd contract is going to suddenly start ripping off 50 yard plays is a joke.

He handled about 40% of the carries and ran for about 700 yards. Pretty great considering the circumstances. He goes all-out 100%, will always give that second effort. That 36 yard reception he caught was a 5 yard catch that he turned into 30 more yards. He hasn't been used since 2013. His best game this past season he probably had maybe 4 carries. 

 

 

And to the joke comment, it worked for Ivory, didn't it? Justin Forsett?

 

Spiller and Bush are absolute trash.

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He handled about 40% of the carries and ran for about 700 yards. Pretty great considering the circumstances. He goes all-out 100%, will always give that second effort. That 36 yard reception he caught was a 5 yard catch that he turned into 30 more yards. He hasn't been used since 2013. His best game this past season he probably had maybe 4 carries. 

 

 

And to the joke comment, it worked for Ivory, didn't it? Justin Forsett?

 

Spiller and Bush are absolute trash.

 

2013?  I did the math (yes, I am just a little gayer now).  36% of the carries.  32% of the yards.  How is that great?   I don't think Ivory had a great year and he had 37% of the carries and 39% of the yards. I like Powell, but the idea that he is going to be a take it to the house guy is misguided IMO.  I think he is a lower level bell cow type.  That is why people are so split on him. He can do everything, but nothing great.  The one think I will say for him is that he has generally been improving, though Johnson cut his carries in 2014.  He was awful in 2011, like afraid to give him the ball awful.

 

It is going to depend on what they all want.  Somebody may want to pay Powell to be a starter.  I don't think we can/should do that.  Spiller or Bush can offer more versatility splitting out, assuming they are not done.

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2013?  I did the math (yes, I am just a little gayer now).  36% of the carries.  32% of the yards.  How is that great?   I don't think Ivory had a great year and he had 37% of the carries and 39% of the yards. I like Powell, but the idea that he is going to be a take it to the house guy is misguided IMO.  I think he is a lower level bell cow type.  That is why people are so split on him. He can do everything, but nothing great.  The one think I will say for him is that he has generally been improving, though Johnson cut his carries in 2014.  He was awful in 2011, like afraid to give him the ball awful.

 

It is going to depend on what they all want.  Somebody may want to pay Powell to be a starter.  I don't think we can/should do that.  Spiller or Bush can offer more versatility splitting out, assuming they are not done.

I never said he's going to be a take it to the house guy, whoever comes here is going to split reps with Ivory. I strongly believe spiller and bush are garbage, and Powell would be a better option. And 2011 was his rookie season, yeah he blew that year but he only played like 3 games. and also yes i agree, there has been improvement every season. He's a good player, and I think he can play great.

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Bush would be a typical Jet signing. A name. Not sure he's completely done, but he isn't far away. Spiller remains a better choice, however, I guess I'd be okay with Bush if Spiller resigns with the Bills. I just fear putting on a Jet uniform will complete Bush's aging process. He looked like every bit of the 29 year old running back he was last year. 

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It might be time to draft a RB than going the NFL retread route all the time.  You get 1-2 years max out of these free agent guys and then you start over again.  You get lucky with a 21-22 year old guy and maybe you can have 6-7 years of solid performance...

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Bush would be a typical Jet signing. A name. Not sure he's completely done, but he isn't far away. Spiller remains a better choice, however, I guess I'd be okay with Bush if Spiller resigns with the Bills. I just fear putting on a Jet uniform will complete Bush's aging process. He looked like every bit of the 29 year old running back he was last year. 

We have a New Coach New GM and new Scouting Dept. Nothing typical yet about these guys ....pretty unfair to use that word at this stage .. No ?

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Difference with Spiller and Bush doesn't end at receiving. If Ivory went down for any extended period, which is always a risk, I'd feel better if the next guy up for 20 touches/game was Spiller than Bush. Spiller's not the model of health but Bush isn't exactly coming off an ironman season himself. Missed 3 games outright and was noticeably limited in a few more (just that we know of).  And even averaging a 28 yard catch & run in there, he still had a dramatic drop in his yards/reception last season (6.3).

 

At the same time, Tomlinson looked completely washed up his last year in SD and he was a nice pickup for us for a couple of years. 

 

I just think at this stage in their careers Spiller is going to be more explosive and, while it's all talk so far in February, he sounds like a guy who wants to do some damage this season where I could see Bush satisfied with winding down his career while enjoying the city nightlife.

 

Meh, who knows. We're looking for a backup/3rd down back with either one probably. Look at what a player Sproles has been post-San Diego (New Orleans picked him up at age 28 and Philly at age 31).

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We have a New Coach New GM and new Scouting Dept. Nothing typical yet about these guys ....pretty unfair to use that word at this stage .. No ?

Not much has changed in 46 years. I'll wait until I've been shown it's changed first.

 

The Jets had different GMs when they signed Art Monk, Roger Craig, Ronnie Lott, Steve Atwater, LaDainian Tomlinson, Derek Mason Chris Johnson, and Ed Reed, didn't they? Same Old Jets is not limited to one regime.

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Difference with Spiller and Bush doesn't end at receiving. If Ivory went down for any extended period, which is always a risk, I'd feel better if the next guy up for 20 touches/game was Spiller than Bush. Spiller's not the model of health but Bush isn't exactly coming off an ironman season himself. Missed 3 games outright and was noticeably limited in a few more (just that we know of). And even averaging a 28 yard catch & run in there, he still had a dramatic drop in his yards/reception last season (6.3).

At the same time, Tomlinson looked completely washed up his last year in SD and he was a nice pickup for us for a couple of years.

I just think at this stage in their careers Spiller is going to be more explosive and, while it's all talk so far in February, he sounds like a guy who wants to do some damage this season where I could see Bush satisfied with winding down his career while enjoying the city nightlife.

Meh, who knows. We're looking for a backup/3rd down back with either one probably. Look at what a player Sproles has been post-San Diego (New Orleans picked him up at age 28 and Philly at age 31).

It's a very deep Rb class in the draft. Bush teamed up with a north-south back taken in the late rounds could effectively replace Ivory if got injured.

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Not much has changed in 46 years. I'll wait until I've been shown it's changed first.

The Jets had different GMs when they signed Art Monk, Roger Craig, Ronnie Lott, Steve Atwater, LaDainian Tomlinson, Derek Mason Chris Johnson, and Ed Reed, didn't they? Same Old Jets is not limited to one regime.

Obviously Tom sucked he only almost got us to the Super Bowl with a sh-thead quarterback and inept OC.

And it's Steve Atwater fault Vinny's Achilles ruptured week 1 of 1999.

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Not much has changed in 46 years. I'll wait until I've been shown it's changed first.

 

The Jets had different GMs when they signed Art Monk, Roger Craig, Ronnie Lott, Steve Atwater, LaDainian Tomlinson, Derek Mason Chris Johnson, and Ed Reed, didn't they? Same Old Jets is not limited to one regime.

 

Tomlinson was a solid pickup for anyone who didn't expect 1800 yards from scrimmage and a dozen TDs. Started one year and was a solid 3rd down back the next. Noticeably better than it would have been keeping Thomas Jones 1 year too long.

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It's a very deep Rb class in the draft. Bush teamed up with a north-south back taken in the late rounds could effectively replace Ivory if got injured.

 

Maybe, maybe not. But if it's such an easy task to draft a RB in the late rounds who could carry the load for a season, surely it's even easier to find a 3rd down back, no? 

 

I'm not saying Bush has nothing to offer, or that he isn't capable of having a stellar game here or there, but rather he's not as complete a player as he was anymore. He's always been injury-prone (as much or more than Spiller, anyway), is coming off another injury-riddled season, and at age 29 has some 9000 carries+receptions.

 

He's pretty beat up is all. It's a rough sport.

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