CTM Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 This makesvery little sense to me. Rex is just being silly now. McCoy has some mileage and seems to have down turned last year, but that could be the Sanchez effect... I don't really get it either, but I guess they felt Alonso was superfluous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 ******* rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 McCoy stunk last year. So many negative yards..could have been hurt though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Among the Rexier trades we've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Kiki didn't play last year, how are they weakening their defense? (assuming we are using last years performance as the reason for it being "good") So if the Patriots had traded Brady before 2009, that wouldn't have weakened their offense. Masterful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 McCoy without question. Exactly. I think all the love that Chip Kelly has been getting, especially from Jet fans, will wear out its welcome soon. This dude just traded Shady for a MLB coming off a season ending injury and he's racking up on former Oregon players. And with this move I now believe that there is no doubt that he will trade up for Mariota. Either this man will go down in history as one of the riskiest/smartest coaches of our time or he's going to destroy that franchise. Im choosing the latter. From where im sitting, Rex won on this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 As a McCoy fantasy owner last year, I can tell you that he fell off big-time. ALSO, as Jet fans..... the last thing we ever need to worry about is another teams running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I love how people think this is stupid. The division just got that much harder. The Bills had a top 5 D without Kiko. He's not a necessary piece. This sucks. The Jets suck. Worst team in the division by far. All I ever see from you is BS. Cut it out. The dolphins actually think Tannehill is good and they have no starting wide outs. Bills just lost one of their best defenders no matter who they gained from it. Shady won't run well in a ground and pound offense. He needs space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 As a McCoy fantasy owner last year, I can tell you that he fell off big-time. ALSO, as Jet fans..... the last thing we ever need to worry about is another teams running game. I had the #1 pick in my fantasy last year. I picked shady. And its not just his rushing. He's a receiving threat which could cause a mismatch all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So if the Patriots had traded Brady before 2009, that wouldn't have weakened their offense. Masterful. Silly. Their defense improved with Alonso out, reasonable to assume they'll be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Crazy. The Eagles added $30 mil in cap space in the past 48 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Who would you rather have on your team, Shady McCoy or Kiko Alonso. Straight answer. It's not that easy. You have to include all variables in order to get the real truth. Money, need, the attitude of a player, the available talent etc all have an effect here. The problem is that I don't believe the Bills brass are including all variables. They're excited to get a ground and pounder. Straight up in a non inclusive world, I may choose Mccoy, but it's not that easy. He traded the DROY runner up two years ago for an $11 mil Rb in a year where a very good RB can be had up until rd 4 or so. Not good management. Add to that that it's most likely including rex's boner for Harris and it's that much more blind of a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Crazy. The Eagles added $30 mil in cap space in the past 48 hours. Well the signing bonus is still on them and will accelerate, not sure what the breakout was but they will still have McCoy dead money on their books this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Silly. Their defense improved with Alonso out, reasonable to assume they'll be just fine. So they got better because Alonso was gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 this is kinda strange. my only guess is this is a way to resign maclin. i dont think its a championship move for buffalo, but i do not like the idea of going against shady twice a year. he killed us a few years ago when we played in philly Lot of good RB's in draft, can get a very good in rd 2, in rd 3 perhaps Yeldon. Prob will resign Maclin, and Iggles need LB's, demeco ryans is toast with achilles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 McCoy has some mileage and seems to have down turned last year, but that could be the Sanchez effect... I don't really get it either, but I guess they felt Alonso was superfluous Mccoy is very talented. I don't think that's the issue really. It's all the other stuff. Like he could have kept him and gotten another RB for peanuts in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Buffalo waitresses, beware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Kiki can play. You don't pay RBs what McCoy gets, not with this RB draft class. Bills get worse. They already could run the ball, but weaken their defense. You understand that Kiko did not play last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So just a random thought here... Could Alonso be a piece in a move to trade up for Mariota? Most teams wouldn't want to touch McCoy's salary but Alonso is a premium defensive player still on a rookie contract and worth something to almost any team. The Raiders, for example, badly need an ILB. Just something to keep an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Straight up in a non inclusive world, I may choose Mccoy, Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So they got better because Alonso was gone? Yes, that's what I said. Clearly the incremental difference between Alonso and whomever his backup was didn't have much of an impact on overall performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So just a random thought here... Could Alonso be a piece in a move to trade up for Mariota? Most teams wouldn't want to touch McCoy's salary but Alonso is a premium defensive player still on a rookie contract and worth something to almost any team. The Raiders, for example, badly need an ILB. Just something to keep an eye on. This draft will be one for the ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Lot of good RB's in draft, can get a very good in rd 2, in rd 3 perhaps Yeldon. Prob will resign Maclin, and Iggles need LB's, demeco ryans is toast with achilles I don't know that it's easy to find a player like McCoy.. (when is the last time the Jets had a running back like that?) The issue is whether or not McCoy is a shell of his former self, recent history suggests yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Why? Dude is the #1 receiver on the market right now. If you're a WR and want to be putting up 1500 yard seasons, then you want to be in Chips system. If they're going to give Shady's money to Maclin... then it's a no brainer for Maclin and his agents. Chips going after Marriota! You don't need a Shady McCoy when your running the Pistol with MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yes, that's what I said. Clearly the incremental difference between Alonso and whomever his backup was didn't have much of an impact on overall performance. Alonso is good. They traded him for an offensive player. That weakens the defense. Seems pretty reasonable. Your nuh-uh, doesn't count because he was on injured reserve last year argument, less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 All I ever see from you is BS. Cut it out. The dolphins actually think Tannehill is good and they have no starting wide outs. Bills just lost one of their best defenders no matter who they gained from it. Shady won't run well in a ground and pound offense. He needs space. First they still have Wallace. Landry and Clay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Alonso is good. They traded him for an offensive player. That weakens the defense. Seems pretty reasonable. Your nuh-uh, doesn't count because he was on injured reserve last year argument, less so. And yet, they were better without him last year. Maybe the backup is just as good. I'm sure the bills will now be a sieve, Ivory must be licking his chops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Silly. Their defense improved with Alonso out, reasonable to assume they'll be just fine. It wasnt because of Alonso's replacement though. But, being a top 5 defense without you and having a guy like McCoy available makes a guy coming back from a season ending injury pretty expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementi49 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Bills D was ranked 3rd last year without Kiko. They just got a top 5 RB in the league. Bills got better period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I don't know that it's easy to find a player like McCoy.. (when is the last time the Jets had a running back like that?) The issue is whether or not McCoy is a shell of his former self, recent history suggests yes it is get rid of a player 1 yr too early then 1 yr too late, also RB's are like oil, price keeps on dropping, too many good ones out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Eagles cutting Trent Cole also. Kelly is certainly a man on a mission. Cutting payroll like a madman. Suh? Revis? McCorty? McPhee? I wonder who he's looking to pick up in FA? Eagles will cut Trent Cole Posted by Michael David Smith on March 3, 2015, 5:30 PM EST Trent Cole AP Trent Cole is on the way out of Philadelphia. The Eagles had been hoping to get Cole to take a pay cut, but that hasn’t happened. Now Cole is expected to be released within the next 24 hours, according to Adam Caplan of ESPN. Cole is a good pass rusher who has 14.5 sacks in the last two seasons, but with his cap number scheduled to be $11.6 million this season, it’s no surprise that the Eagles felt like that was more than they could justify spending. Eagles coach Chip Kelly, who has been given full control of all personnel decisions, clearly wants to get rid of the aging and expensive veterans on the roster. Todd Herremans and Cary Williams have all been sent packing, and now Cole is on the way out as well. Kelly is clearing plenty of cap space. He may have plans to make a splash when free agency begins next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I peeped on the bills forum.. they are going absolutely nuts. 90% of them HATE this trade And 10% of them are delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 And yet, they were better without him last year. Maybe the backup is just as good. I'm sure the bills will now be a sieve, Ivory must be licking his chops Some people never got over Nam. Or the night their band opened for Nirvana. Chan never got over Rex Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementi49 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 RBs arent a dime a dozen. I'm so sick of hearing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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