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He will be visiting with the Jets this weekend. Decent depth I guess. But I'm not sure why we're sort of ignoring Douzable. It sounds like we're gonna let him walk with all the FA DE's we're trying to land.

Probably because Bowles wants to populate the locker room with veteran leaders. It's the easiest way to change the culture on a team, by ensuring that it polices itself from within.

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Again, and I have said this before.  We have no assurance that he even wants to keep some of the guys we think are good.  Canty, Langford?  I thought our DL was our prized jewel?  I sense  a major change coming.  Bowles wants "Bowles guys."  Again, why die with someone else's player?  I am starting to get a sense that we are trading down.  New guys are coming in larger numbers than we thought

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Probably because Bowles wants to populate the locker room with veteran leaders. It's the easiest way to change the culture on a team, by ensuring that it polices itself from within.

Every now and the you post a fact good job Tommy boy..

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Again, and I have said this before.  We have no assurance that he even wants to keep some of the guys we think are good.  Canty, Langford?  I thought our DL was our prized jewel?  I sense  a major change coming.  Bowles wants "Bowles guys."  Again, why die with someone else's player?  I am starting to get a sense that we are trading down.  New guys are coming in larger numbers than we thought

 

I think the main guys on the DLine are safe Mo, Coples (yes I called him a D Lineman) and Sheldon.  Hopefully Richardson is in their plans....but I think the group as a whole is pretty safe. They are talented, Bowles is known as being a guy who works with the talent that he has.

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Again, and I have said this before. We have no assurance that he even wants to keep some of the guys we think are good. Canty, Langford? I thought our DL was our prized jewel? I sense a major change coming. Bowles wants "Bowles guys." Again, why die with someone else's player? I am starting to get a sense that we are trading down. New guys are coming in larger numbers than we thought

Good post. Food for thought.

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Again, and I have said this before.  We have no assurance that he even wants to keep some of the guys we think are good.  Canty, Langford?  I thought our DL was our prized jewel?  I sense  a major change coming.  Bowles wants "Bowles guys."  Again, why die with someone else's player?  I am starting to get a sense that we are trading down.  New guys are coming in larger numbers than we thought

 

Major change? That'd be moronic. You don't "major change" something that's great. Unless you want to fall on your face. And I don't see why bringing in depth (which we have lacked severly in the past) is going to hurt us. Leger is a backup, he's a FA. Kenrick is a backup, he's a FA. Outside of that we have absolutely nothing when it comes to the D-Line. TJ Barnes is the only guy left and he's a #3 NT at this point. Not even a solid backup. We have nobody at the DE spots backing up Mo/Sheldon/Coples either. We're desperate for depth. We have to add at least 2 maybe even 3 decent backups. Langford and Canty would be good additions, they can back Sheldon/Mo outside and play inside on passing downs out of the nickel/dime. Instead of having to rely on Mo all the time to do that because he was always asked to move inside and rush the QB in a Trevor Pryce type role. Langford and Canty can do that as well. That'd maybe help Mo be more of a factor in the 4th quarter if his snaps are limited SOMEWHAT. He doesn't have to play 99% of the snaps each game like he used to the past couple of years.

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Makor change? That'd be moronic. You don't "major change" something that's great. Unless you want to fall on your face. And I don't see why bringing in depth (which we have lacked severly in the past) is going to hurt us. Leger is a backup, he's a FA. Kenrick is a backup, he's a FA. Outside of that we have absolutely nothing when it comes to the D-Line. TJ Barnes is the only guy left and he's a #3 NT at this point. Not even a solid backup. We have nobody at the DE spots backing up Mo/Sheldon/Coples either. We're desperate for depth. We have to add at least 2 maybe even 3 decent backups. Langford and Canty would be good additions, they can back Sheldon/Mo outside and play inside on passing downs out of the nickel/dime. Instead of having to rely on Mo all the time to do that because he was always asked to move inside and rush the QB in a Trevor Pryce type role. Langford and Canty can do that as well. That'd maybe help Mo be more of a factor in the 4th quarter if his snaps are limited SOMEWHAT. He doesn't have to play 99% of the snaps each game like he used to the past couple of years.

Very good post. If they were legit starters most of their career and they just can't start anymore... Then playing back up most likely is more efficient then sticking training camp players at 2nd and 3rd string. People dont understand exactly how much the backs up help. Playing well out there while Mo will catches his breath could be a game saver.
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I think the main guys on the DLine are safe Mo, Coples (yes I called him a D Lineman) and Sheldon.  Hopefully Richardson is in their plans....but I think the group as a whole is pretty safe. They are talented, Bowles is known as being a guy who works with the talent that he has.

The only thing i would say to that is that Bowles has always been a coordinator.  As a head coach he has more input into who he "has".  I really think some guys we have not even thought about going could be going.

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Major change? That'd be moronic. You don't "major change" something that's great. Unless you want to fall on your face. And I don't see why bringing in depth (which we have lacked severly in the past) is going to hurt us. Leger is a backup, he's a FA. Kenrick is a backup, he's a FA. Outside of that we have absolutely nothing when it comes to the D-Line. TJ Barnes is the only guy left and he's a #3 NT at this point. Not even a solid backup. We have nobody at the DE spots backing up Mo/Sheldon/Coples either. We're desperate for depth. We have to add at least 2 maybe even 3 decent backups. Langford and Canty would be good additions, they can back Sheldon/Mo outside and play inside on passing downs out of the nickel/dime. Instead of having to rely on Mo all the time to do that because he was always asked to move inside and rush the QB in a Trevor Pryce type role. Langford and Canty can do that as well. That'd maybe help Mo be more of a factor in the 4th quarter if his snaps are limited SOMEWHAT. He doesn't have to play 99% of the snaps each game like he used to the past couple of years.

I am not just talking about the D line.  Rex came in and won with Manginis guys for a year or two, then he died.  I think these guys might clean house, to some extent. Get their guys.  And these guys they are bringing in for the D line seem like guys who are a little higher profile than flat out reserves.  I think they are preparing for the possibility that they might be trading Mo.  They might even let Harrison go.  David Harris could be gone.  So could Harvin.

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I think the main guys on the DLine are safe Mo, Coples (yes I called him a D Lineman) and Sheldon.  Hopefully Richardson is in their plans....but I think the group as a whole is pretty safe. They are talented, Bowles is known as being a guy who works with the talent that he has.

 

Did you mean Harrison in bold?  I agree, I think the core of Wilk, Rich and Harri should all stick around for a while.  Coples is really a question of fit in Bowles planned scheme but he might actually be a better fit and more valuable piece now than before.  Hoping because unlike Vernon, I think Coples is a better football player than he's been able to show so far.

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Did you mean Harrison in bold?  I agree, I think the core of Wilk, Rich and Harri should all stick around for a while.  Coples is really a question of fit in Bowles planned scheme but he might actually be a better fit and more valuable piece now than before.  Hoping because unlike Vernon, I think Coples is a better football player than he's been able to show so far.

Coples is a very good football player, a guy who has been playing out of position for years.

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I am not just talking about the D line.  Rex came in and won with Manginis guys for a year or two, then he died.  I think these guys might clean house, to some extent. Get their guys.  And these guys they are bringing in for the D line seem like guys who are a little higher profile than flat out reserves.  I think they are preparing for the possibility that they might be trading Mo.  They might even let Harrison go.  David Harris could be gone.  So could Harvin.

 

I honestly can't imagine anything like that happening. I mean I agree that Harvin is a goner and Harris will probably be overpaid by Rex, but there is just no way we're gonna trade Mo or Snacks. Snacks MAYBE if Bowles wants more of a playmaker inside, a 3 down player, an upgrade. The only guy I can think of would be Suh. But that's crazy. And just like Bowles Mo is a Temple guy, those two go together like Peanut Butter & Jelly. It wouldn't make any sense to trade either of them, the fans and the Media here in NY especially would crush our FO considering how much money we have available.

 

That said, I do hope Bowles cleans house as far as pass defense goes, our defensive backfield. Tear it down and build it up again, the way you want it. I'll trust Bowles with that. Chan should do the same exact thing, on offense. The front 7 on defense should be adjusted slightly, that's about it.

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If Mo asks for crazy moneyI honestly can't imagine anything like that happening. I mean I agree that Harvin is a goner and Harris will probably be overpaid by Rex, but there is just no way we're gonna trade Mo or Snacks. Snacks MAYBE if Bowles wants more of a playmaker inside, a 3 down player, an upgrade. The only guy I can think of would be Suh. But that's crazy. And just like Bowles Mo is a Temple guy, those two go together like Peanut Butter & Jelly. It wouldn't make any sense to trade either of them, the fans and the Media here in NY especially would crush our FO considering how much money we have available.

 

That said, I do hope Bowles cleans house as far as pass defense goes, our defensive backfield. Tear it down and build it up again, the way you want it. I'll trust Bowles with that. Chan should do the same exact thing, on offense. The front 7 on defense should be adjusted slightly, that's about it.

Yeah, but ifMo asks for crazy money, they have to trade him.  He is not Suh and he is not Watt.

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I honestly can't imagine anything like that happening. I mean I agree that Harvin is a goner and Harris will probably be overpaid by Rex, but there is just no way we're gonna trade Mo or Snacks. Snacks MAYBE if Bowles wants more of a playmaker inside, a 3 down player, an upgrade. The only guy I can think of would be Suh. But that's crazy. And just like Bowles Mo is a Temple guy, those two go together like Peanut Butter & Jelly. It wouldn't make any sense to trade either of them, the fans and the Media here in NY especially would crush our FO considering how much money we have available.

That said, I do hope Bowles cleans house as far as pass defense goes, our defensive backfield. Tear it down and build it up again, the way you want it. I'll trust Bowles with that. Chan should do the same exact thing, on offense. The front 7 on defense should be adjusted slightly, that's about it.

I agree ... The only way I see a major adjustment happening is if the FO wants to reallocate the distribution of $$$ on the team. If they feel the amount of cash on the DL is preventing competency at other positions it could happen.

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I agree ... The only way I see a major adjustment happening is if the FO wants to reallocate the distribution of $$$ on the team. If they feel the amount of cash on the DL is preventing competency at other positions it could happen.

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With over $50MM of salary cap space, I don't think they need to trim salary on the DL to address any needs.  In a normal year, perhaps, but not this year.

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Did you mean Harrison in bold?  I agree, I think the core of Wilk, Rich and Harri should all stick around for a while.  Coples is really a question of fit in Bowles planned scheme but he might actually be a better fit and more valuable piece now than before.  Hoping because unlike Vernon, I think Coples is a better football player than he's been able to show so far.

 

Yes, sorry about that. I mean Harrison. I would like to see him come back.  Agreed on Coples as well.

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