DaBallhawk Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 He will be visiting with the Jets this weekend. Decent depth I guess. But I'm not sure why we're sort of ignoring Douzable. It sounds like we're gonna let him walk with all the FA DE's we're trying to land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 He's a no-bullsh*t human. The DL group better prepare for some serious culture shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 He will be visiting with the Jets this weekend. Decent depth I guess. But I'm not sure why we're sort of ignoring Douzable. It sounds like we're gonna let him walk with all the FA DE's we're trying to land. Probably because Bowles wants to populate the locker room with veteran leaders. It's the easiest way to change the culture on a team, by ensuring that it polices itself from within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Bowles sure loves those tall DE's. Maybe Leger isn't a perfect fit in his scheme. Canty, Langford, Calais Campbell, they're all like 6'7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Again, and I have said this before. We have no assurance that he even wants to keep some of the guys we think are good. Canty, Langford? I thought our DL was our prized jewel? I sense a major change coming. Bowles wants "Bowles guys." Again, why die with someone else's player? I am starting to get a sense that we are trading down. New guys are coming in larger numbers than we thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Id go with Canty over Langford if I had to choose between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Probably because Bowles wants to populate the locker room with veteran leaders. It's the easiest way to change the culture on a team, by ensuring that it polices itself from within. Every now and the you post a fact good job Tommy boy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilkshake69 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I also feel like Douz is a lock to land in Buffalo with Rex and Dunbar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Every now and the you post a fact good job Tommy boy.. I like to set the fact bar pretty low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Again, and I have said this before. We have no assurance that he even wants to keep some of the guys we think are good. Canty, Langford? I thought our DL was our prized jewel? I sense a major change coming. Bowles wants "Bowles guys." Again, why die with someone else's player? I am starting to get a sense that we are trading down. New guys are coming in larger numbers than we thought I think the main guys on the DLine are safe Mo, Coples (yes I called him a D Lineman) and Sheldon. Hopefully Richardson is in their plans....but I think the group as a whole is pretty safe. They are talented, Bowles is known as being a guy who works with the talent that he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Again, and I have said this before. We have no assurance that he even wants to keep some of the guys we think are good. Canty, Langford? I thought our DL was our prized jewel? I sense a major change coming. Bowles wants "Bowles guys." Again, why die with someone else's player? I am starting to get a sense that we are trading down. New guys are coming in larger numbers than we thought Good post. Food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I like his facemask. It's cool. I want him for this reason only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Good post. Food for thought. I for one am excited. All those picks in a draft that is stuffed in with talent in the 2nd and 3rd. That's how it was last year too.. And the year before. Think of the team we could of assembled through just the past 2 drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Again, and I have said this before. We have no assurance that he even wants to keep some of the guys we think are good. Canty, Langford? I thought our DL was our prized jewel? I sense a major change coming. Bowles wants "Bowles guys." Again, why die with someone else's player? I am starting to get a sense that we are trading down. New guys are coming in larger numbers than we thought Major change? That'd be moronic. You don't "major change" something that's great. Unless you want to fall on your face. And I don't see why bringing in depth (which we have lacked severly in the past) is going to hurt us. Leger is a backup, he's a FA. Kenrick is a backup, he's a FA. Outside of that we have absolutely nothing when it comes to the D-Line. TJ Barnes is the only guy left and he's a #3 NT at this point. Not even a solid backup. We have nobody at the DE spots backing up Mo/Sheldon/Coples either. We're desperate for depth. We have to add at least 2 maybe even 3 decent backups. Langford and Canty would be good additions, they can back Sheldon/Mo outside and play inside on passing downs out of the nickel/dime. Instead of having to rely on Mo all the time to do that because he was always asked to move inside and rush the QB in a Trevor Pryce type role. Langford and Canty can do that as well. That'd maybe help Mo be more of a factor in the 4th quarter if his snaps are limited SOMEWHAT. He doesn't have to play 99% of the snaps each game like he used to the past couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Makor change? That'd be moronic. You don't "major change" something that's great. Unless you want to fall on your face. And I don't see why bringing in depth (which we have lacked severly in the past) is going to hurt us. Leger is a backup, he's a FA. Kenrick is a backup, he's a FA. Outside of that we have absolutely nothing when it comes to the D-Line. TJ Barnes is the only guy left and he's a #3 NT at this point. Not even a solid backup. We have nobody at the DE spots backing up Mo/Sheldon/Coples either. We're desperate for depth. We have to add at least 2 maybe even 3 decent backups. Langford and Canty would be good additions, they can back Sheldon/Mo outside and play inside on passing downs out of the nickel/dime. Instead of having to rely on Mo all the time to do that because he was always asked to move inside and rush the QB in a Trevor Pryce type role. Langford and Canty can do that as well. That'd maybe help Mo be more of a factor in the 4th quarter if his snaps are limited SOMEWHAT. He doesn't have to play 99% of the snaps each game like he used to the past couple of years.Very good post. If they were legit starters most of their career and they just can't start anymore... Then playing back up most likely is more efficient then sticking training camp players at 2nd and 3rd string. People dont understand exactly how much the backs up help. Playing well out there while Mo will catches his breath could be a game saver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I think the main guys on the DLine are safe Mo, Coples (yes I called him a D Lineman) and Sheldon. Hopefully Richardson is in their plans....but I think the group as a whole is pretty safe. They are talented, Bowles is known as being a guy who works with the talent that he has. The only thing i would say to that is that Bowles has always been a coordinator. As a head coach he has more input into who he "has". I really think some guys we have not even thought about going could be going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Major change? That'd be moronic. You don't "major change" something that's great. Unless you want to fall on your face. And I don't see why bringing in depth (which we have lacked severly in the past) is going to hurt us. Leger is a backup, he's a FA. Kenrick is a backup, he's a FA. Outside of that we have absolutely nothing when it comes to the D-Line. TJ Barnes is the only guy left and he's a #3 NT at this point. Not even a solid backup. We have nobody at the DE spots backing up Mo/Sheldon/Coples either. We're desperate for depth. We have to add at least 2 maybe even 3 decent backups. Langford and Canty would be good additions, they can back Sheldon/Mo outside and play inside on passing downs out of the nickel/dime. Instead of having to rely on Mo all the time to do that because he was always asked to move inside and rush the QB in a Trevor Pryce type role. Langford and Canty can do that as well. That'd maybe help Mo be more of a factor in the 4th quarter if his snaps are limited SOMEWHAT. He doesn't have to play 99% of the snaps each game like he used to the past couple of years. I am not just talking about the D line. Rex came in and won with Manginis guys for a year or two, then he died. I think these guys might clean house, to some extent. Get their guys. And these guys they are bringing in for the D line seem like guys who are a little higher profile than flat out reserves. I think they are preparing for the possibility that they might be trading Mo. They might even let Harrison go. David Harris could be gone. So could Harvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I think the main guys on the DLine are safe Mo, Coples (yes I called him a D Lineman) and Sheldon. Hopefully Richardson is in their plans....but I think the group as a whole is pretty safe. They are talented, Bowles is known as being a guy who works with the talent that he has. Did you mean Harrison in bold? I agree, I think the core of Wilk, Rich and Harri should all stick around for a while. Coples is really a question of fit in Bowles planned scheme but he might actually be a better fit and more valuable piece now than before. Hoping because unlike Vernon, I think Coples is a better football player than he's been able to show so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 As said, Douz is Rex's guy. Rodgers and Bowles want to bring in their guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Did you mean Harrison in bold? I agree, I think the core of Wilk, Rich and Harri should all stick around for a while. Coples is really a question of fit in Bowles planned scheme but he might actually be a better fit and more valuable piece now than before. Hoping because unlike Vernon, I think Coples is a better football player than he's been able to show so far. Coples is a very good football player, a guy who has been playing out of position for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 I am not just talking about the D line. Rex came in and won with Manginis guys for a year or two, then he died. I think these guys might clean house, to some extent. Get their guys. And these guys they are bringing in for the D line seem like guys who are a little higher profile than flat out reserves. I think they are preparing for the possibility that they might be trading Mo. They might even let Harrison go. David Harris could be gone. So could Harvin. I honestly can't imagine anything like that happening. I mean I agree that Harvin is a goner and Harris will probably be overpaid by Rex, but there is just no way we're gonna trade Mo or Snacks. Snacks MAYBE if Bowles wants more of a playmaker inside, a 3 down player, an upgrade. The only guy I can think of would be Suh. But that's crazy. And just like Bowles Mo is a Temple guy, those two go together like Peanut Butter & Jelly. It wouldn't make any sense to trade either of them, the fans and the Media here in NY especially would crush our FO considering how much money we have available. That said, I do hope Bowles cleans house as far as pass defense goes, our defensive backfield. Tear it down and build it up again, the way you want it. I'll trust Bowles with that. Chan should do the same exact thing, on offense. The front 7 on defense should be adjusted slightly, that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 If Mo asks for crazy moneyI honestly can't imagine anything like that happening. I mean I agree that Harvin is a goner and Harris will probably be overpaid by Rex, but there is just no way we're gonna trade Mo or Snacks. Snacks MAYBE if Bowles wants more of a playmaker inside, a 3 down player, an upgrade. The only guy I can think of would be Suh. But that's crazy. And just like Bowles Mo is a Temple guy, those two go together like Peanut Butter & Jelly. It wouldn't make any sense to trade either of them, the fans and the Media here in NY especially would crush our FO considering how much money we have available. That said, I do hope Bowles cleans house as far as pass defense goes, our defensive backfield. Tear it down and build it up again, the way you want it. I'll trust Bowles with that. Chan should do the same exact thing, on offense. The front 7 on defense should be adjusted slightly, that's about it. Yeah, but ifMo asks for crazy money, they have to trade him. He is not Suh and he is not Watt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I honestly can't imagine anything like that happening. I mean I agree that Harvin is a goner and Harris will probably be overpaid by Rex, but there is just no way we're gonna trade Mo or Snacks. Snacks MAYBE if Bowles wants more of a playmaker inside, a 3 down player, an upgrade. The only guy I can think of would be Suh. But that's crazy. And just like Bowles Mo is a Temple guy, those two go together like Peanut Butter & Jelly. It wouldn't make any sense to trade either of them, the fans and the Media here in NY especially would crush our FO considering how much money we have available. That said, I do hope Bowles cleans house as far as pass defense goes, our defensive backfield. Tear it down and build it up again, the way you want it. I'll trust Bowles with that. Chan should do the same exact thing, on offense. The front 7 on defense should be adjusted slightly, that's about it. I agree ... The only way I see a major adjustment happening is if the FO wants to reallocate the distribution of $$$ on the team. If they feel the amount of cash on the DL is preventing competency at other positions it could happen. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Veteran guys providing depth is what we need on the DL. They are no challenge to our starters and can fill in quickly when needed. I like these little potential moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I agree ... The only way I see a major adjustment happening is if the FO wants to reallocate the distribution of $$$ on the team. If they feel the amount of cash on the DL is preventing competency at other positions it could happen. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk With over $50MM of salary cap space, I don't think they need to trim salary on the DL to address any needs. In a normal year, perhaps, but not this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Did you mean Harrison in bold? I agree, I think the core of Wilk, Rich and Harri should all stick around for a while. Coples is really a question of fit in Bowles planned scheme but he might actually be a better fit and more valuable piece now than before. Hoping because unlike Vernon, I think Coples is a better football player than he's been able to show so far. Yes, sorry about that. I mean Harrison. I would like to see him come back. Agreed on Coples as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Probably because Bowles wants to populate the locker room with veteran leaders. It's the easiest way to change the culture on a team, by ensuring that it polices itself from within. Just name some people you like Captains. The process then takes care of itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Just name some people you like Captains. The process then takes care of itself Kinda like Santonio Holmes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully28 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I like his facemask. It's cool. I want him for this reason only. He looks so menacing with that facemask+visor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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