SouthernJet Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Maybe some back door talking going on. Jets probably have a inkling by now if David Harris is off to his beloved Rex and Bills. Bills have need there now w/Alonso gone. Maybe Jets trade out of #6 for Alonso and lots of picks or Alonso and Foles and a pick or two? Thoughts? Be kind, I am old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Maybe some back door talking going on. Jets probably have a inkling by now if David Harris is off to his beloved Rex and Bills. Bills have need there now w/Alonso gone. Maybe Jets trade out of #6 for Alonso and lots of picks or Alonso and Foles and a pick or two? Thoughts? Be kind, I am old Did Alonso look elite in Gailey's system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Interesting thought. If we were closer to the draft I would be more open to believing it. But with free agency about to begin and the rest of the pre-draft process that has to play out I can't buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Interesting thought. If we were closer to the draft I would be more open to believing it. But with free agency about to begin and the rest of the pre-draft process that has to play out I can't buy it True dat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I highly doubt it. Although Bowles loves to blitz, there are good edge rushers in the draft this year. The one idea that may happen is that Chip is possibly going to hedge his bets on Mariota by keeping Foles, but thinking further through this, I don't think that'll happen. If Mariota flopped, the offense is busted anyway and it won't matter. I think they actually want Kiko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I think that would be a risky move so far away from the draft there is no way possible they can guarantee that MM is there at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Interesting thought. If we were closer to the draft I would be more open to believing it. But with free agency about to begin and the rest of the pre-draft process that has to play out I can't buy it I doubt it. What I think this means is that Philly is looking for ways to fill needs without drafting players, because they are going to give us all of their picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I think it's likely that any happening in the nfl today has the Jets secretly at the center of it. #MacAttack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Never seen anything like that happen before so I doubt it'll happen now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I doubt it. What I think this means is that Philly is looking for ways to fill needs without drafting players, because they are going to give us all of their picks. that and apparently Chip Kelly is collecting Oregon players with the same fervor that Jif collects man notches on his bed post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 It is more believable as long as Foles is coming our way. From the Jets perspective, if they do not take Mariota outright, they need a proven starter, and Foles has shown he has the ability to win. But from a Philadelphia POV, they need Foles out of there as ANY kind of competition. This wouldn't be like Russel Wilson beating out Matt Flynn in Seattle; Philadelphia would have moved up 14 spots in the draft AND mortgaged part of their future to get Kelly's guy in there. Imagine the backlash if he couldn't beat out Foles in camp? PR NIGHTMARE!!!! By trading us Alonso, it could also lessen the need for multiple picks by giving us two starters. In essence, it would be Foles, McCoy, and whatever picks to move up in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I think Chip Kelly traded a RB for a LB because his offense is fine but his defense needs all the help it can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 really? I think that is defiintion of forums, message boards etc. Its not two source journalism, LOL. So helpful Slats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Did Alonso look elite in Gailey's system? Huh? Alonso a LB, Gailey a OC or HC who handled Offense, he had nuthin to do w/Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 I think that would be a risky move so far away from the draft there is no way possible they can guarantee that MM is there at 6. Oh keep him if MM not there, Alonso a stud, but Kelly hedging his bets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Huh? Alonso a LB, Gailey a OC or HC who handled Offense, he had nuthin to do w/Defense. You are too old for my sarcasm buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 I think Chip Kelly traded a RB for a LB because his offense is fine but his defense needs all the help it can get. I agree and Chip FIRMLY thinks 'most talented if not great' WRs/RBs thrive in his system while there is a very smart , talented QB to make it run smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 You are too old for my sarcasm buddy. sorry, only on my 4th cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Maybe some back door talking going on. Jets probably have a inkling by now if David Harris is off to his beloved Rex and Bills. Bills have need there now w/Alonso gone. Maybe Jets trade out of #6 for Alonso and lots of picks or Alonso and Foles and a pick or two? Thoughts? Be kind, I am old I'd take Kiko Alonzo over Foles. If we do trade with them and there's a player involved I'd rather that player be kiko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 I'd take Kiko Alonzo over Foles. If we do trade with them and there's a player involved I'd rather that player be kiko. agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I'd take Kiko Alonzo over Foles. If we do trade with them and there's a player involved I'd rather that player be kiko. Straight up, I'd agree, but comparing to 'value-over-replacement' I'm not so sure. I think Foles is likely a bigger improvement over Geno than Alonso is over almost any JAG at ILB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Huh? Alonso a LB, Gailey a OC or HC who handled Offense, he had nuthin to do w/Defense. Are you trying to say Alonso can't play Tight End in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Straight up, I'd agree, but comparing to 'value-over-replacement' I'm not so sure. I think Foles is likely a bigger improvement over Geno than Alonso is over almost any JAG at ILB. I'll have to disagree. I do think Foles would probably be an upgrade, but to say that Alonso wouldnt be a bigger upgrade is like saying we have linebackers on the team. Outside Demario Davis there is no one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I'll have to disagree. I do think Foles would probably be an upgrade, but to say that Alonso wouldnt be a bigger upgrade is like saying we have linebackers on the team. Outside Demario Davis there is no one. But in terms of affecting our W-L record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Maybe some back door talking going on. Jets probably have a inkling by now if David Harris is off to his beloved Rex and Bills. Bills have need there now w/Alonso gone. Maybe Jets trade out of #6 for Alonso and lots of picks or Alonso and Foles and a pick or two? Thoughts? Be kind, I am old But seriously why wouldn't the Jets want McCoy more than or as much as Alonzo and how would somebody within the Philly organization know this...for starters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 assuming this is true, we could most likely still pull another first rounder, and maybe nick foles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 really? I think that is defiintion of forums, message boards etc. Its not two source journalism, LOL. So helpful Slats Is it? I've been in other threads trying to put out this fire -originally started by none other than Mannish Mehta- that the Jets are somehow going to cash in on a trade with Philly involving Mariota. It's highly unlikely to happen. Philly doing a salary dump while trying to shore up their defense doesn't in any way make it more likely, IMHO. If a team covets Mariota, and they believe he's worth the #6 pick in the draft, they're going to have to be willing to trade up higher than that because the team picking at #6 also happens to be in need of a QB. If the Jets are playing it smart, they'll try to "leak" the opposite of their actual intentions. If they don't want Mariota, they want a team to trade in front of them to take him so a better prospect drops in their lap. If they do want him, they want everyone to think they don't so he drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 assuming this is true, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Maybe some back door talking going on. Jets probably have a inkling by now if David Harris is off to his beloved Rex and Bills. Bills have need there now w/Alonso gone. Maybe Jets trade out of #6 for Alonso and lots of picks or Alonso and Foles and a pick or two? Thoughts? Be kind, I am old I will try to be kind, but would not that be useless if the guy that Philly wants is not there at 6? But I would think that he would be an enticing chip to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I think Chip Kelly traded a RB for a LB because his offense is fine but his defense needs all the help it can get. Yep. Plus the cost differential, while he needs $ to re-sign Maclin. That McCoy was an unhappy camper anyway, wanting a new contract more lucrative than the one Kelly already didn't want to pay him, made it an easier decision. Also Kelly doesn't seem to think he needs this or that player to make his offense work. That if his passing game is clicking he will create enough open space to make a non-elite RB put up tons of yardage. Polk, or a rookie, plus Sproles. It's mega-interesting to watch unfold. Think about the way the Eagles' offense was clicking there through early January of 2014. 2nd year QB with a 27:2 ratio, stud 25 year old top-3 NFL RB, demon speed 27 year old star WR. All 3 deserved pro bowlers or 1st team all pro, and all 3 of them under contract for a couple more seasons minimum. To most fans' thinking, with any semblance of an OL, that's an offense to build around right there. And in less than 14 months later, before May of 2015 is upon them, Kelly will have actively and willingly shipped all 3 off his team. I don't know whether it will all work out for them in the end. But the guy's got balls, I'll give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Is it? I've been in other threads trying to put out this fire -originally started by none other than Mannish Mehta- that the Jets are somehow going to cash in on a trade with Philly involving Mariota. It's highly unlikely to happen. Philly doing a salary dump while trying to shore up their defense doesn't in any way make it more likely, IMHO. If a team covets Mariota, and they believe he's worth the #6 pick in the draft, they're going to have to be willing to trade up higher than that because the team picking at #6 also happens to be in need of a QB. If the Jets are playing it smart, they'll try to "leak" the opposite of their actual intentions. If they don't want Mariota, they want a team to trade in front of them to take him so a better prospect drops in their lap. If they do want him, they want everyone to think they don't so he drops. Huh? what the hell u talking about? I said 'Could the eagles'.. pure 'conjecture is obvious'..whats your issue man with thread? I made no factual comments or hinted at any.. Chill, I still like u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Yep. Plus the cost differential, while he needs $ to re-sign Maclin. That McCoy was an unhappy camper anyway, wanting a new contract more lucrative than the one Kelly already didn't want to pay him, made it an easier decision. Also Kelly doesn't seem to think he needs this or that player to make his offense work. That if his passing game is clicking he will create enough open space to make a non-elite RB put up tons of yardage. Polk, or a rookie, plus Sproles. It's mega-interesting to watch unfold. Think about the way the Eagles' offense was clicking there through early January of 2014. 2nd year QB with a 27:2 ratio, stud 25 year old top-3 NFL RB, demon speed 27 year old star WR. All 3 deserved pro bowlers or 1st team all pro, and all 3 of them under contract for a couple more seasons minimum. To most fans' thinking, with any semblance of an OL, that's an offense to build around right there. And in less than 14 months later, before May of 2015 is upon them, Kelly will have actively and willingly shipped all 3 off his team. I don't know whether it will all work out for them in the end. But the guy's got balls, I'll give him that. agree, eagles 99% did this for them.. I was just conjecturing with the stud LB, Jets may ask for that as part of a trade up IF Eagles approach us. IF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I agree 100% that this is pure speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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