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Jets' next move should be Mariota Revis and Marshall are nice additions, but this team still needs a franchise QB

 

In his original life as a New York Jet, while preparing to make his first of two runs to the AFC Championship Game, Darrelle Revis stopped in a hallway outside his locker room to consider his long-term goals. Well, at least his long-term goals that didn't involve an all-out blitz on Woody Johnson's checkbook."I'd love to win a bunch of championships," Revis said that early January day in 2010, before losing himself in a pregnant pause. "But you know what," he finally continued, "that starts with Mark Sanchez."

 

Brian Spurlock/USA TODAY SportsMight Marcus Mariota be the man to finally lead Gang Green back to the Super Bowl?

As much as he has always chased after quarterback money, Revis understands that the quarterback, not the cornerback, determines whether a team is good enough to win the Super Bowl. Sanchez wasn't up to the challenge. Tom Brady? Hey, that's a different story.

 

Revis won his championship ring with Brady in New England, returned to the Jets on a full Woody Johnson scholarship and now runs straight into that same quarterback-or-bust reality he'd confronted five years back. Only this proposition is more forbidding than that one. Sanchez beat Brady and Peyton Manning on the road in the playoffs and has four postseason victories to his name, or four more than have been claimed by the Jets' current quarterbacks, Geno Smith and Ryan Fitzpatrick, who was just acquired from the Houston Texans for a few tackling dummies and two rows of drill cones.

Fitzpatrick and Smith have a combined record of 44-73-1 with 148 touchdown passes, 135 interceptions and no playoff appearances. Fitzpatrick has made 89 NFL starts and has yet to manage a winning record in any season. You could point out that Jets offensive coordinator Chan Gailey had him in Buffalo, and Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan had him in Houston, and that both must have liked at least a little bit of what they saw. But you would also need to point out that Fitzpatrick lost his job in Houston to Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett, not exactly the Ruth and Gehrig of their craft.

Mediocre and injured quarterbacks are the ones available this time of year for a sound reason: If you have a good and healthy quarterback, you keep him and you pay him. In other words, the only way the Jets will find their first franchise player since Joe Namath capable of winning it all is to draft and develop him.

So that brings us to the sixth pick in the draft, the pick the Jets won't be trading to Philadelphia so Chip Kelly can land his former star at Oregon, Marcus Mariota. That's if Kelly was telling the truth Wednesday when he called all the noise about him trading up for Mariota "crazy" and added the following:

"I think Marcus is the best quarterback in the draft. We will never mortgage our future to go all the way up to get somebody like that, because we have too many other holes we have to take care of. We're not mortgaging our future for any particular player."

Of course, it's in Kelly's interest to convince the rest of the league he would rather bleed every second off the play clock between snaps than make a dramatic jump up the draft board to grab the quarterback of his spread offense dreams. Why would he telegraph his true desires when that would only drive up the price to pay in a trade?

But assuming Kelly wouldn't surrender the necessary assets to move from No. 20 to No. 6, and assuming that Jameis Winston goes to Tampa Bay at No. 1 and that Mariota makes it past Tennessee (at No. 2) and Washington (at No. 5), the Jets would be foolish to take a prospect other than Mariota, the Heisman winner who outplayed Winston in the College Football Playoff semifinals. At 6-foot-4, Mariota has the required pocket-passer size and arm strength to go along with wide-receiver athleticism and speed. He was good for 57 touchdowns last season at Oregon (42 passing), and he threw for 4,454 yards while giving up a mere four interceptions.

Mariota has no Winston-like issues to answer for on the character front, and Kelly and his other college coaches go on and on about his NFL readiness. You might think they're just campaigning for their guy, but Jets fans should remember something about the last quarterback their team drafted early in the first round, Sanchez. His college coach, Pete Carroll, didn't think he was ready for the pros and wasn't afraid to say so.
 

Yes, Mariota could put on a few pounds and, yes, he has no experience running a huddle or taking snaps under center. He was exclusively a shotgun quarterback at Oregon who was asked to fire away faster than Paul Westhead's famous run-and-gun basketball teams at Loyola Marymount back in the day.

 

But in Gailey the Jets have a coordinator with experience running the spread, and in Mariota they have a potential 10- to 15-year starter who appears to have the physical skill, competitive desire, intelligence and accuracy to succeed in whatever system his NFL employer throws at him.

Let's face it: These quarterback prospects are always something of a gamble, unless the prospects are named Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. Sometimes the combine results and scouting reports and psychological evaluations mean nothing at all. If you dropped every player in NFL history into one draft tomorrow night, Tom Brady might be the first overall pick. The same Tom Brady who went 199th in 2000.

So it's possible Mariota will turn out to be an average NFL starter. The greater possibility is that he'll end up as a top-10 player at his position, which is precisely what the Jets need. Some doubters wonder if Mariota is too nice of a guy to command a team and succeed in a market in which Leo Durocher once said nice guys wouldn't finish first.

Truth is, a lot of pleasant athletes have made it big in the big city. Bernie Williams, once the genteel center fielder of the Yankees, used to say people shouldn't confuse his kindness for weakness. Williams had a personality that seemed similar to Mariota's, and things worked out just fine for him.

In the end, maybe Tennessee or Washington will make this moot by selecting Mariota at No. 2 or No. 5. But if the Jets get their shot at the Heisman winner at No. 6, or even if they find a way to trade up to get him, they should act as decisively as they did in acquiring Brandon Marshall and Revis.

In a best-case scenario, Marcus Mariota will develop into a Super Bowl MVP. In a worst-case scenario, Marcus Mariota will be a better quarterback than Ryan Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith.

 

> http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/12463331/new-york-jets-draft-marcus-mariota

 

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Strange to cite Bernie Williams.  I remember hearing Bernie say he had a lot of trouble his first couple of years because guys like Mel Hall and Jesse Barfield kept ******* with him.  It wasn't until the swapped Roberto Kelly for O'Neill and got rid of those guys that he really started to put it together. If Mariotta takes two or three years to put it together, this place will not be showing patience.

 

I always remember Williams saying it because it was so out of character for him to blast guys, but he mentioned them both by name and said "what have they won?".

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Strange to cite Bernie Williams.  I remember hearing Bernie say he had a lot of trouble his first couple of years because guys like Mel Hall and Jesse Barfield kept ******* with him.  It wasn't until the swapped Roberto Kelly for O'Neill and got rid of those guys that he really started to put it together. If Mariotta takes two or three years to put it together, this place will not be showing patience.

 

I always remember Williams saying it because it was so out of character for him to blast guys, but he mentioned them both by name and said "what have they won?".

wut?

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wut?

 

Guy said nice guys can finish first in NY and uses Bernie Williams as an example. Bernie did not start off like gangbusters and part of it might have been that he was too nice and "soft" compared to guys like Hall and Barfield.  Mariotta will not have the benefit of waiting to take over.

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This is what I've been Feeling since the acquisition of Ryan Fitz. Wheeling and dealing to get guys like Marshall and Revis will mean nothing if we dont find a way to get our QB. Now I dont believe in Mariota, I think he's not worth a top 2 or top 6 pick, but if the coaches do then I'll Support it. The difference between Mariota and Fitzpatrick is that Fitzpatrick has shown you through an entire career that he's not the guy. You dont spend this type of Money and simply go on the Football field with a stop-gap. Thats nothing more than window Dressing for not saying that you went on the Football field with a back up qb.

 

If Fitz becomes a backup to someone better then I welcome the Addition of course, but the Jets Need to do something between today and the draft. If Ryan Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith are the two guys fighting for the starting Position come preseason then this will be a fail imo.

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This article presumes he'll even be there at 6. I don't think he will be.

Exactly, I would prefer to focus on the more likely scenerios and that would be getting a developmental qb in the 3 or 4 rounds.   If MM is there, then fine we take him.  Odds are he won't, so no sense in all these threads about him.... 

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This is what I've been Feeling since the acquisition of Ryan Fitz. Wheeling and dealing to get guys like Marshall and Revis will mean nothing if we dont find a way to get our QB. Now I dont believe in Mariota, I think he's not worth a top 2 or top 6 pick, but if the coaches do then I'll Support it. The difference between Mariota and Fitzpatrick is that Fitzpatrick has shown you through an entire career that he's not the guy. You dont spend this type of Money and simply go on the Football field with a stop-gap. Thats nothing more than window Dressing for not saying that you went on the Football field with a back up qb.

 

If Fitz becomes a backup to someone better then I welcome the Addition of course, but the Jets Need to do something between today and the draft. If Ryan Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith are the two guys fighting for the starting Position come preseason then this will be a fail imo.

 

Oh yeah? Well who did you want them to pick up instead?

 

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The Jets have made some good moves so far.  If they really want Mariota then I 'm with whatever it takes to move to #2 if necessary.  

If they move up to draft Mariota they better be right.  Thats an "all in" on your career move right there man.  No coming back from a swing and a miss like that. 

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If they move up to draft Mariota they better be right.  Thats an "all in" on your career move right there man.  No coming back from a swing and a miss like that. 

 

This is true.  Look at how many careers Mark Sanchez eventually destroyed!

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This article presumes he'll even be there at 6. I don't think he will be.

I sincerely doubt that the Titans are "satisfied" with Zach Mettenberger. I think the two QB's go one and two. That leaves the Jets to ponder a trade down for o-lineman or take the pass rush specialist. I vote for the pass rusher. With the secondary no longer a weakness if the Jets add a top QB killer they will be back in the playoffs regardless of how many ints the QB throws. The Jets will probably add a RB for depth - Shock Linwood (Baylor) could be had in third or fourth round. Also Jets could add QB of the future in Bryce Petty in round 2. Things are looking up in Jet land - at last. All it took was getting rid of Rex and Iggy.

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Exactly, I would prefer to focus on the more likely scenerios and that would be getting a developmental qb in the 3 or 4 rounds.   If MM is there, then fine we take him.  Odds are he won't, so no sense in all these threads about him.... 

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This article presumes he'll even be there at 6. I don't think he will be.

No, the writer added:

In the end, maybe Tennessee or Washington will make this moot by selecting Mariota at No. 2 or No. 5. But if the Jets get their shot at the Heisman winner at No. 6, or even if they find a way to trade up to get him, 

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Jets' next move should be Mariota

Revis and Marshall are nice additions, but this team still needs a franchise QB

 

In his original life as a New York Jet, while preparing to make his first of two runs to the AFC Championship Game, Darrelle Revis stopped in a hallway outside his locker room to consider his long-term goals. Well, at least his long-term goals that didn't involve an all-out blitz on Woody Johnson's checkbook."I'd love to win a bunch of championships," Revis said that early January day in 2010, before losing himself in a pregnant pause. "But you know what," he finally continued, "that starts with Mark Sanchez."

 

Brian Spurlock/USA TODAY SportsMight Marcus Mariota be the man to finally lead Gang Green back to the Super Bowl?

As much as he has always chased after quarterback money, Revis understands that the quarterback, not the cornerback, determines whether a team is good enough to win the Super Bowl. Sanchez wasn't up to the challenge. Tom Brady? Hey, that's a different story.

 

Revis won his championship ring with Brady in New England, returned to the Jets on a full Woody Johnson scholarship and now runs straight into that same quarterback-or-bust reality he'd confronted five years back. Only this proposition is more forbidding than that one. Sanchez beat Brady and Peyton Manning on the road in the playoffs and has four postseason victories to his name, or four more than have been claimed by the Jets' current quarterbacks, Geno Smith and Ryan Fitzpatrick, who was just acquired from the Houston Texans for a few tackling dummies and two rows of drill cones.

Fitzpatrick and Smith have a combined record of 44-73-1 with 148 touchdown passes, 135 interceptions and no playoff appearances. Fitzpatrick has made 89 NFL starts and has yet to manage a winning record in any season. You could point out that Jets offensive coordinator Chan Gailey had him in Buffalo, and Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan had him in Houston, and that both must have liked at least a little bit of what they saw. But you would also need to point out that Fitzpatrick lost his job in Houston to Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett, not exactly the Ruth and Gehrig of their craft.

Mediocre and injured quarterbacks are the ones available this time of year for a sound reason: If you have a good and healthy quarterback, you keep him and you pay him. In other words, the only way the Jets will find their first franchise player since Joe Namath capable of winning it all is to draft and develop him.

So that brings us to the sixth pick in the draft, the pick the Jets won't be trading to Philadelphia so Chip Kelly can land his former star at Oregon, Marcus Mariota. That's if Kelly was telling the truth Wednesday when he called all the noise about him trading up for Mariota "crazy" and added the following:

"I think Marcus is the best quarterback in the draft. We will never mortgage our future to go all the way up to get somebody like that, because we have too many other holes we have to take care of. We're not mortgaging our future for any particular player."

Of course, it's in Kelly's interest to convince the rest of the league he would rather bleed every second off the play clock between snaps than make a dramatic jump up the draft board to grab the quarterback of his spread offense dreams. Why would he telegraph his true desires when that would only drive up the price to pay in a trade?

But assuming Kelly wouldn't surrender the necessary assets to move from No. 20 to No. 6, and assuming that Jameis Winston goes to Tampa Bay at No. 1 and that Mariota makes it past Tennessee (at No. 2) and Washington (at No. 5), the Jets would be foolish to take a prospect other than Mariota, the Heisman winner who outplayed Winston in the College Football Playoff semifinals. At 6-foot-4, Mariota has the required pocket-passer size and arm strength to go along with wide-receiver athleticism and speed. He was good for 57 touchdowns last season at Oregon (42 passing), and he threw for 4,454 yards while giving up a mere four interceptions.

Mariota has no Winston-like issues to answer for on the character front, and Kelly and his other college coaches go on and on about his NFL readiness. You might think they're just campaigning for their guy, but Jets fans should remember something about the last quarterback their team drafted early in the first round, Sanchez. His college coach, Pete Carroll, didn't think he was ready for the pros and wasn't afraid to say so.

 

Yes, Mariota could put on a few pounds and, yes, he has no experience running a huddle or taking snaps under center. He was exclusively a shotgun quarterback at Oregon who was asked to fire away faster than Paul Westhead's famous run-and-gun basketball teams at Loyola Marymount back in the day.

 

But in Gailey the Jets have a coordinator with experience running the spread, and in Mariota they have a potential 10- to 15-year starter who appears to have the physical skill, competitive desire, intelligence and accuracy to succeed in whatever system his NFL employer throws at him.

Let's face it: These quarterback prospects are always something of a gamble, unless the prospects are named Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. Sometimes the combine results and scouting reports and psychological evaluations mean nothing at all. If you dropped every player in NFL history into one draft tomorrow night, Tom Brady might be the first overall pick. The same Tom Brady who went 199th in 2000.

So it's possible Mariota will turn out to be an average NFL starter. The greater possibility is that he'll end up as a top-10 player at his position, which is precisely what the Jets need. Some doubters wonder if Mariota is too nice of a guy to command a team and succeed in a market in which Leo Durocher once said nice guys wouldn't finish first.

Truth is, a lot of pleasant athletes have made it big in the big city. Bernie Williams, once the genteel center fielder of the Yankees, used to say people shouldn't confuse his kindness for weakness. Williams had a personality that seemed similar to Mariota's, and things worked out just fine for him.

In the end, maybe Tennessee or Washington will make this moot by selecting Mariota at No. 2 or No. 5. But if the Jets get their shot at the Heisman winner at No. 6, or even if they find a way to trade up to get him, they should act as decisively as they did in acquiring Brandon Marshall and Revis.

In a best-case scenario, Marcus Mariota will develop into a Super Bowl MVP. In a worst-case scenario, Marcus Mariota will be a better quarterback than Ryan Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith.

 

> http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/12463331/new-york-jets-draft-marcus-mariota

We already made a huge trade to chase a hyped up, marginally talented QB who was the 2nd best in the draft when we took Sanchez.

We have a desperate need for an elite outside pass rusher and the free agent market is already dry at that position. and there will be at least 2 waiting for with the #6 pick. This is the wrong time to chase this QB.

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We already made a huge trade to chase a hyped up, marginally talented QB who was the 2nd best in the draft when we took Sanchez.

We have a desperate need for an elite outside pass rusher and the free agent market is already dry at that position. and there will be at least 2 waiting for with the #6 pick. This is the wrong time to chase this QB.

I agree. OLB first round.
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If Mariota is there at 6 they take him, sit him for a year, if not it's Fowler. That's the Jets board,Fowler is more BPA Mariota is reaching since we need a Q.B and Q.B is the Only postion you can teach for.

 

I think this is what they will do.

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Jets' next move should be Mariota Revis and Marshall are nice additions, but this team still needs a franchise QB

 

In his original life as a New York Jet, while preparing to make his first of two runs to the AFC Championship Game, Darrelle Revis stopped in a hallway outside his locker room to consider his long-term goals. Well, at least his long-term goals that didn't involve an all-out blitz on Woody Johnson's checkbook."I'd love to win a bunch of championships," Revis said that early January day in 2010, before losing himself in a pregnant pause. "But you know what," he finally continued, "that starts with Mark Sanchez."

 

Brian Spurlock/USA TODAY SportsMight Marcus Mariota be the man to finally lead Gang Green back to the Super Bowl?

As much as he has always chased after quarterback money, Revis understands that the quarterback, not the cornerback, determines whether a team is good enough to win the Super Bowl. Sanchez wasn't up to the challenge. Tom Brady? Hey, that's a different story.

 

Revis won his championship ring with Brady in New England, returned to the Jets on a full Woody Johnson scholarship and now runs straight into that same quarterback-or-bust reality he'd confronted five years back. Only this proposition is more forbidding than that one. Sanchez beat Brady and Peyton Manning on the road in the playoffs and has four postseason victories to his name, or four more than have been claimed by the Jets' current quarterbacks, Geno Smith and Ryan Fitzpatrick, who was just acquired from the Houston Texans for a few tackling dummies and two rows of drill cones.

Fitzpatrick and Smith have a combined record of 44-73-1 with 148 touchdown passes, 135 interceptions and no playoff appearances. Fitzpatrick has made 89 NFL starts and has yet to manage a winning record in any season. You could point out that Jets offensive coordinator Chan Gailey had him in Buffalo, and Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan had him in Houston, and that both must have liked at least a little bit of what they saw. But you would also need to point out that Fitzpatrick lost his job in Houston to Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett, not exactly the Ruth and Gehrig of their craft.

Mediocre and injured quarterbacks are the ones available this time of year for a sound reason: If you have a good and healthy quarterback, you keep him and you pay him. In other words, the only way the Jets will find their first franchise player since Joe Namath capable of winning it all is to draft and develop him.

So that brings us to the sixth pick in the draft, the pick the Jets won't be trading to Philadelphia so Chip Kelly can land his former star at Oregon, Marcus Mariota. That's if Kelly was telling the truth Wednesday when he called all the noise about him trading up for Mariota "crazy" and added the following:

"I think Marcus is the best quarterback in the draft. We will never mortgage our future to go all the way up to get somebody like that, because we have too many other holes we have to take care of. We're not mortgaging our future for any particular player."

Of course, it's in Kelly's interest to convince the rest of the league he would rather bleed every second off the play clock between snaps than make a dramatic jump up the draft board to grab the quarterback of his spread offense dreams. Why would he telegraph his true desires when that would only drive up the price to pay in a trade?

But assuming Kelly wouldn't surrender the necessary assets to move from No. 20 to No. 6, and assuming that Jameis Winston goes to Tampa Bay at No. 1 and that Mariota makes it past Tennessee (at No. 2) and Washington (at No. 5), the Jets would be foolish to take a prospect other than Mariota, the Heisman winner who outplayed Winston in the College Football Playoff semifinals. At 6-foot-4, Mariota has the required pocket-passer size and arm strength to go along with wide-receiver athleticism and speed. He was good for 57 touchdowns last season at Oregon (42 passing), and he threw for 4,454 yards while giving up a mere four interceptions.

Mariota has no Winston-like issues to answer for on the character front, and Kelly and his other college coaches go on and on about his NFL readiness. You might think they're just campaigning for their guy, but Jets fans should remember something about the last quarterback their team drafted early in the first round, Sanchez. His college coach, Pete Carroll, didn't think he was ready for the pros and wasn't afraid to say so.

 

Yes, Mariota could put on a few pounds and, yes, he has no experience running a huddle or taking snaps under center. He was exclusively a shotgun quarterback at Oregon who was asked to fire away faster than Paul Westhead's famous run-and-gun basketball teams at Loyola Marymount back in the day.

 

But in Gailey the Jets have a coordinator with experience running the spread, and in Mariota they have a potential 10- to 15-year starter who appears to have the physical skill, competitive desire, intelligence and accuracy to succeed in whatever system his NFL employer throws at him.

Let's face it: These quarterback prospects are always something of a gamble, unless the prospects are named Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. Sometimes the combine results and scouting reports and psychological evaluations mean nothing at all. If you dropped every player in NFL history into one draft tomorrow night, Tom Brady might be the first overall pick. The same Tom Brady who went 199th in 2000.

So it's possible Mariota will turn out to be an average NFL starter. The greater possibility is that he'll end up as a top-10 player at his position, which is precisely what the Jets need. Some doubters wonder if Mariota is too nice of a guy to command a team and succeed in a market in which Leo Durocher once said nice guys wouldn't finish first.

Truth is, a lot of pleasant athletes have made it big in the big city. Bernie Williams, once the genteel center fielder of the Yankees, used to say people shouldn't confuse his kindness for weakness. Williams had a personality that seemed similar to Mariota's, and things worked out just fine for him.

In the end, maybe Tennessee or Washington will make this moot by selecting Mariota at No. 2 or No. 5. But if the Jets get their shot at the Heisman winner at No. 6, or even if they find a way to trade up to get him, they should act as decisively as they did in acquiring Brandon Marshall and Revis.

In a best-case scenario, Marcus Mariota will develop into a Super Bowl MVP. In a worst-case scenario, Marcus Mariota will be a better quarterback than Ryan Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith.

 

> http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/12463331/new-york-jets-draft-marcus-mariota

 

Not worried about Mariota in NY.  Worried about Mariota taking snaps over center.  He could be good.  Bt how can anyone be sure.  You should be sure about a 6 pick.

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This is what I've been Feeling since the acquisition of Ryan Fitz. Wheeling and dealing to get guys like Marshall and Revis will mean nothing if we dont find a way to get our QB. Now I dont believe in Mariota, I think he's not worth a top 2 or top 6 pick, but if the coaches do then I'll Support it. The difference between Mariota and Fitzpatrick is that Fitzpatrick has shown you through an entire career that he's not the guy. You dont spend this type of Money and simply go on the Football field with a stop-gap. Thats nothing more than window Dressing for not saying that you went on the Football field with a back up qb.

 

If Fitz becomes a backup to someone better then I welcome the Addition of course, but the Jets Need to do something between today and the draft. If Ryan Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith are the two guys fighting for the starting Position come preseason then this will be a fail imo.

There are no choices!   There is NOBODY out there this year, either in FA or that is available via a trade.  Mariota could be gone by 6.  They might be best to draft a guy in the 3rd-4th round and develop them.  But all they can do is field a great team right now, and hope Gailey can do something with either Geno or Fitz. 

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There are no choices!   There is NOBODY out there this year, either in FA or that is available via a trade.  Mariota could be gone by 6.  They might be best to draft a guy in the 3rd-4th round and develop them.  But all they can do is field a great team right now, and hope Gailey can do something with either Geno or Fitz. 

We'll see about that Steve.

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No, the writer added:

In the end, maybe Tennessee or Washington will make this moot by selecting Mariota at No. 2 or No. 5. But if the Jets get their shot at the Heisman winner at No. 6, or even if they find a way to trade up to get him, 

 

ok ,..I'm callin' it...tenn. takes mariota    :love0040:

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..Not this year   :character0181:

Yup he is.  The NFL is a copy cat league and the bloom is off the rose for a Kaepernick type player.  If RG3 and Kaepernick both had great years last year he would still be a top notch QB.  I don't think Tennessee is going to pull the trigger.  I don't think the Jets are going to pull the trigger.  Cleveland will be gun shy  (Weeden, Manziel).  Teams past the Jets don't need QB's.  People like to say that pro days do not hurt players at all.  Tell that to Bridgewater from last year.

 

He didn;t show what he needed to to make teams think he could step right in.  There are a lot of good players at the top of the draft.  Some QB almost always falls each year as teams get cold feet.

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They will roll with Fitz and Geno and maybe grab Grayson or Petty later on.  They are looking Fowler/Ray or Beasley at 6 if they can't trade out, if they can trade out no further than 16 they will grab Gordon.  The d front line is sick already and now the defensive backfield is nuts.  Davis and Harris are solid.  They are a pass rushing OLB away from being dominant.  So if they can not find a suitor at 6,  look for Fowler/Beasly or Ray to be the pick.  I feel they want to trade back and add another first next year or a 2nd this year and nab the QB's best friend a 3 down back that could take it the distance on any play.

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