bealeb319 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I know the NFL currently has officials at the Jets facility investigating but will we actually be charged? If we do get charged how bad can the punishment be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Probably a fine. If we lose a draft pick and Pats don't get any punishment for Deflategate then Woody should put in a formal compliant to Baddell that this is BS. If we did lose a draft pick it can't be higher than a 7th I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Tampering? The Patriots couldnt even afford him. I say woody should demand an apology from the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 If the patriots were smart they would keep quiet because they cheated yet again and in the playoffs no less. Lucky for them the nfl has no balls to punish them because they were given a super bowl.....oops i mean they won lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 What a tired topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 What Woody said publicly does constitute tampering, unfortunately. If they can show evidence of direct contact with Revis as well, then we might be looking at load of a missions pick and a fine. Woody is so amazingly stupid most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 What Woody said publicly does constitute tampering, unfortunately. If they can show evidence of direct contact with Revis as well, then we might be looking at load of a missions pick and a fine. Woody is so amazingly stupid most of the time. What this may be is that that the media announced that the pats were not going to pick up the option, but the pats did not actually notify the league until 15min or so before 4:00 pm on Tuesday. Teams may have felt that the pats actually did decline the option the day before and did not check with the league. BB, Kraft or Cessaario never said anything publicly monday, Even ESPN announced it as if they did decline it Monday. Rappoaport on the NFL channel even said monday that teams could now have a 24 "legal tamper" window, that did not realy exist because the pats never notified the league until the last min oN tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 What Woody said publicly does constitute tampering, unfortunately. If they can show evidence of direct contact with Revis as well, then we might be looking at load of a missions pick and a fine. Woody is so amazingly stupid most of the time. What if Goodell voided the contract and forbid the Jets from signing him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 All hinges in deflategate. If pats are punished for deflategate with a draft pick they will be awarded jets pick the next round for tampering. Thus they only slide 7 slots... Another non punishment for kraft, just like spygate when they lost their lower of two first round picks, which they conveniently had two that year. If no deflategate punishment, no tampering charge. It is as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 All hinges in deflategate. If pats are punished for deflategate with a draft pick they will be awarded jets pick the next round for tampering. Thus they only slide 7 slots... Another non punishment for kraft, just like spygate when they lost their lower of two first round picks, which they conveniently had two that year. If no deflategate punishment, no tampering charge. It is as simple as that. Please, the pats are not going to be punished for deflategate. The league is just going to look so stupid that they did not know that balls deflate naturally when exposed to a colder environment. The league has already contacted Willson to recommend a change in the PSI specification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Please, the pats are not going to be punished for deflategate. The league is just going to look so stupid that they did not know that balls deflate naturally when exposed to a colder environment. The league has already contacted Willson to recommend a change in the PSI specification. Well then there you go--no deflategate punishment=no tampering punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I know the NFL currently has officials at the Jets facility investigating really ? that's like a real official thing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Please, the pats are not going to be punished for deflategate. The league is just going to look so stupid that they did not know that balls deflate naturally when exposed to a colder environment. The league has already contacted Willson to recommend a change in the PSI specification. LMAO!!! I guess the Colts balls do not "deflate naturally". Everyone outside of Boston considers you guys a bunch of cheaters and non legit champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 the precedent for comments in the pres is a 7th round pick. kraftys buttboy will give him a 7th and then take one away for deflate gate, lol hey chowds check this out; type this into google ; "nfl investigating" lololololololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 What this may be is that that the media announced that the pats were not going to pick up the option, but the pats did not actually notify the league until 15min or so before 4:00 pm on Tuesday. Teams may have felt that the pats actually did decline the option the day before and did not check with the league. BB, Kraft or Cessaario never said anything publicly monday, Even ESPN announced it as if they did decline it Monday. Rappoaport on the NFL channel even said monday that teams could now have a 24 "legal tamper" window, that did not realy exist because the pats never notified the league until the last min oN tuesday. Child please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Child please. Is it that hard to see Woody running to phone to make a call after hearing this? It was reported as fact that Revis was released when he was not released until the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Is it that hard to see Woody running to phone to make a call after hearing this? It was reported as fact that Revis was released when he was not released until the next day. enjoy the 7th round pick. use it wisely, like to replace the one you lose for you saggy balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 The irony in this situation. Pats fans calling us cheaters. Lmao!!! Oh the ******* irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Is it that hard to see Woody running to phone to make a call after hearing this? It was reported as fact that Revis was released when he was not released until the next day. Exactly. It's been reported that the Pats do things the right way. We all know it's untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 What this may be is that that the media announced that the pats were not going to pick up the option, but the pats did not actually notify the league until 15min or so before 4:00 pm on Tuesday. Teams may have felt that the pats actually did decline the option the day before and did not check with the league. BB, Kraft or Cessaario never said anything publicly monday, Even ESPN announced it as if they did decline it Monday. Rappoaport on the NFL channel even said monday that teams could now have a 24 "legal tamper" window, that did not realy exist because the pats never notified the league until the last min oN tuesday. sounds like some more of the "patriot way", to me.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Is it that hard to see Woody running to phone to make a call after hearing this? It was reported as fact that Revis was released when he was not released until the next day. some more of that patriot "competitive advantage" huh? belicheat is such a dirtbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 What if Goodell voided the contract and forbid the Jets from signing him? The players union would laugh at him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 sounds like some more of the "patriot way", to me.lol What, are the pats supposed to give a press conference every time an erroneous media report comes out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 The players union would laugh at him silly chowds. they all think they are lawyers, lol. must come form constantly defending themselves from allegations and accusations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 What, are the pats supposed to give a press conference every time an erroneous media report comes out? its just typical. sneaky dirtbag coach doing sneaky dirtbag moves for a sneaky dirtbag franchise and the sneaky dirtbag fans applaud the sneaky dirtbag for it. its just typical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Not that normal legal practices apply to this situation, but exactly what are the damages suffered by the Pats? Irrespective of Woody's off the cuff remark, Revis would have been in play anyway. The Pats never even made an offer, because they knew they could not afford him. No harm, no foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 LMAO!!! I guess the Colts balls do not "deflate naturally". Everyone outside of Boston considers you guys a bunch of cheaters and non legit champs. You do understand the the colts footballs were in a truck all night and were not delivered to the stadium along with the players until 3:20 in the afternoon, the balls had to be delivered to the refs by 4:00, 2 1/4 hours before the start of the game. Those footballs were already cold as the outside temp, they would not deflate due to the temp variation that the patriot footballs that were delivered from a warm locker room. And no one has said that the colts footballs did not deflate, only that they did not deflate past 12.5PSI. If they were filled closer to the the max as Luck, Rogers and Big Ben like, they could have lost a 1b and still been in spec. What you have to ask is why when Grigson notified the league office (Mike Kensil) that he had concerns about the patriot footballs, why did Kensil allow 1/2 of the game to be played before checking the balls. And how come the league office did not notify the refs to note and write down the pressures when they checked them prior to the game? Kensil never even told Blandino about the Colts concerns prior to the game. How he could allow the patriots to have what some consider a competitive advantage for a half needs to be explained. How come kensil was the only one to check the balls and not the game refs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 You do understand the the colts footballs were in a truck all night and were not delivered to the stadium along with the players until 3:20 in the afternoon, the balls had to be delivered to the refs by 4:00, 2 1/4 hours before the start of the game. Those footballs were already cold as the outside temp, they would not deflate due to the temp variation that the patriot footballs that were delivered from a warm locker room. And no one has said that the colts footballs did not deflate, only that they did not deflate past 12.5PSI. If they were filled closer to the the max as Luck, Rogers and Big Ben like, they could have lost a 1b and still been in spec. What you have to ask is why when Grigson notified the league office (Mike Kensil) that he had concerns about the patriot footballs, why did Kensil allow 1/2 of the game to be played before checking the balls. And how come the league office did not notify the refs to note and write down the pressures when they checked them prior to the game? Kensil never even told Blandino about the Colts concerns prior to the game. How he could allow the patriots to have what some consider a competitive advantage for a half needs to be explained. How come kensil was the only one to check the balls and not the game refs? Child please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Not that normal legal practices apply to this situation, but exactly what are the damages suffered by the Pats? Irrespective of Woody's off the cuff remark, Revis would have been in play anyway. The Pats never even made an offer, because they knew they could not afford him. No harm, no foul. Revis presented his demands as 40 mill guaranteed over three years on Monday. Gee those numbers sound familiar, the same as Mehta had the day before, and the same numbers as what the jets signed him to. What a coincidence! do you think Mehta is clairvoyant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 At most they'd give him a steep fine. But I think it would be because of the comments at the press conference. Considering the Deflate Gate scandal, Goddell would be committing political suicide by docking the Jets a pick. He isn't that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Child please. Well take a shot at refuting what I said. What was Kensil reasons for allowing the colts to play 1/2 a game under the handicap of the opponent not using the correct equipment, after Grigson expressed his concerns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 At most they'd give him a steep fine. But I think it would be because of the comments at the press conference. Considering the Deflate Gate scandal, Goddell would be committing political suicide by docking the Jets a pick. He isn't that stupid. What the hell does deflategate have to do with it? Now I agree the jets contacting him on Monday is not a big deal, no worse than any of the other 8 teams that had FA signed players prior to Tuesday. It just has legs due to Woody being an idiot with those comments 6 weeks prior. If Woody never said that, the revis signing woud just be one of the many that was done not to the letter of the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Revis presented his demands as 40 mill guaranteed over three years on Monday. Gee those numbers sound familiar, the same as Mehta had the day before, and the same numbers as what the jets signed him to. What a coincidence! do you think Mehta is clairvoyant? The point is, Revis was not going to sign without first shopping himself. He would have done that irrespective of Woody's casual remark. Is the Jets' fault the Pats can't rub two nickels together? And since when has Mehta been the crux of this? You really are simplistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 You club is crying foul after being involved in a NFL investigation yourself? And speaking of which, ask yourself, which investigation is more important to the Health and Reputation of the League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 You do understand the the colts footballs were in a truck all night and were not delivered to the stadium along with the players until 3:20 in the afternoon, the balls had to be delivered to the refs by 4:00, 2 1/4 hours before the start of the game. Those footballs were already cold as the outside temp, they would not deflate due to the temp variation that the patriot footballs that were delivered from a warm locker room. And no one has said that the colts footballs did not deflate, only that they did not deflate past 12.5PSI. If they were filled closer to the the max as Luck, Rogers and Big Ben like, they could have lost a 1b and still been in spec. What you have to ask is why when Grigson notified the league office (Mike Kensil) that he had concerns about the patriot footballs, why did Kensil allow 1/2 of the game to be played before checking the balls. And how come the league office did not notify the refs to note and write down the pressures when they checked them prior to the game? Kensil never even told Blandino about the Colts concerns prior to the game. How he could allow the patriots to have what some consider a competitive advantage for a half needs to be explained. How come kensil was the only one to check the balls and not the game refs? As long as you understand what you're babbling about, that's all that matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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